interestrateripoff Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2042213/Janes-husband-doesnt-job---barely-live-shame.html The children still have pony lessons, she's kept on the cleaner, but, financially AND emotionally, her gilded world is falling apart. One woman's story of how fragile our middle-class lives can be. . .At supper one day, our eight-year-old daughter Emily announces that she has an idea. ‘It’s about a new job for Daddy,’ she says, ‘I saw it on the back of a bus. Daddy, you could train as a bus driver and earn £125 a day.’ My husband, Andy, winces. My eyes fill with tears. He’s got a History degree from Cambridge, a Masters degree in Business, and years of senior experience in strategic management. Bus driving wasn’t exactly the future he’d planned. He makes a joke of it, gives Emily a hug — but yet again his self-esteem takes a knock, an all-too-regular event these days. By the time Emily spotted the advert on the bus, he’d been jobless for two years. She could hardly remember a time when Daddy went to an office. We were once a typical middle-class family — comfortable, not super-rich, children in good state schools but with private lessons for tennis and riding. Skiing in February, a nice hotel in Italy or Spain in the summer. Clearly not a very good strategic manager??? Too harsh? You take what you can find, having loads of qualifications doesn't guarantee you anything and mostly it's about who you know rather than what you know. Although if you hadn't blown stupid money on private tennis lessons etc... and planned a bit more strategically I'm betting life now would be OK and you wouldn't be feeling so dejected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer466 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Were there not some bin jobs going in Southampton? Maybe he could apply for one of those.... Edit to add... There is still far to much denial in the system.. These are the sorts of people who beleive the World owes them..... We’ve managed to keep up Jack’s tennis lessons and Emily’s riding, with help from my parents. I know they’d do anything to help us — but it still felt humiliating when I paid their cheque into our account. Even worse was applying for a bursary so that Jack could go abroad with his cricket team. I knew it was the only way we could afford it; I knew he’d be upset if he couldn’t go. But the thought of people in the cricket club — our peers, our equals — judging our need, made me feel physically sick. Edited September 27, 2011 by geezer466 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branigan Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Plenty of people have been out of work for longer than a year. Why is this news I think is the question people need to be asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 My husband, Andy, winces. My eyes fill with tears. He’s got a History degree from Cambridge, a Masters degree in Business, and years of senior experience in strategic management. not strategic management! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I’m confident we’ll never get into that situation. We are lucky to have equity in our house — thank goodness that we never traded up and saddled ourselves with a massive mortgage. So, not taking benefits but living off the next generation instead. I'll bet they're taking SMI though. Four years unemployed, history degree from Cambridge, and won't consider teaching. Has this guy got some sort of allergy to index-linked pensions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 If he's desperate for a job, why not drive a bus for a bit? Sounds like he could earn a fair wedge out of it..Oh, it doesn't fit his "social image"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) And our belief in the future has completely dwindled away. welcome to the world of the following generations for whom freelance work strategic management and the prospect of owning a home and raising a family are non-existent We still have a cleaner once a week...we treat ourselves to a night out at the cinema every week. ?? Edited September 27, 2011 by Si1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouch Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Far too much sneering here and not half enough sympathy. This could happen to anyone and I suspect most of the sneerer's wouldn't take their own advice if it came to it and would feel exactly the same if they were in the position of this family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 respect - for some of the finest management gobbledogook I have ever heard: ‘I’d love to win the Lottery,’ he says, ‘because then I could do things that would define me better than any job could do.’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Far too much sneering here and not half enough sympathy. This could happen to anyone and I suspect most of the sneerer's wouldn't take their own advice if it came to it and would feel exactly the same if they were in the position of this family. I suspect it already HAS happened to many on this board, I remember my own dad's redundancy 20 years ago, except this family have a better lifestyle than my family did BEFORE my dad's redundancy Edited September 27, 2011 by Si1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Far too much sneering here and not half enough sympathy. This could happen to anyone and I suspect most of the sneerer's wouldn't take their own advice if it came to it and would feel exactly the same if they were in the position of this family. Yes only having a cleaner once a week in, clearly on the poverty line. I'll send the one I have in seven days a week round to help out. There I feel better already. Edited September 27, 2011 by interestrateripoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Si1 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Yes only having a cleaner once a week in, clearly on the poverty line. I'll send the one I have in twice a week round to help out. There I feel better already. still, the main thing is to keep people born since the 1970s locked out of home ownership, good for the economy y'know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unexpected Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Far too much sneering here and not half enough sympathy. This could happen to anyone and I suspect most of the sneerer's wouldn't take their own advice if it came to it and would feel exactly the same if they were in the position of this family. Naa. The sneerers here probably have useful qualifications and skills that are actually required in the workplace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Naa. The sneerers here probably have useful qualifications and skills that are actually required in the workplace. like a bus license Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouch Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Yes only having a cleaner once a week in, clearly on the poverty line. I'll send the one I have in seven days a week round to help out. There I feel better already. There' s far too much sneering here and not nearly enough sympathy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 There' s far too much sneering here and not nearly enough sympathy. there's no sympathy required too proud to take benefits, or too well off, did very very well out of home ownership last decade or so, absolutely milked a fantastic decade for them, still very well of by the majority of peoples' standards these people are from the lucky generation - the generations born since the 1970s are far worse off when in work, there is absolutely nothing to be sypathetic about here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injin Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Woah, woah, woah. A DM story where the unemployed aren't just worthless malingering ******nuts? Good christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
righttoleech Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I expect the bus driver jobs are inundated with applicants and he would not get a look in. In the meantime he could clean the house. This is the real world. Experience counts for nothing, it's a shame the Wail represents the crisis with a story about asprational middle class clones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouch Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 there's no sympathy required too proud to take benefits, or too well off, did very very well out of home ownership last decade or so, absolutely milked a fantastic decade for them, still very well of by the majority of peoples' standards these people are from the lucky generation - the generations born since the 1970s are far worse off when in work, there is absolutely nothing to be sypathetic about here There's far too much sneering here and not nearly enough sympathy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 There's far too much sneering here and not nearly enough sympathy. click....click....click....click.....click.....click.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diver Dan Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 http://www.dailymail...live-shame.html Clearly not a very good strategic manager??? Too harsh? You take what you can find, having loads of qualifications doesn't guarantee you anything and mostly it's about who you know rather than what you know. Although if you hadn't blown stupid money on private tennis lessons etc... and planned a bit more strategically I'm betting life now would be OK and you wouldn't be feeling so dejected. A typical business degree lecture yesterday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9F5QL804qQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 There's far too much sneering here and not nearly enough sympathy. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJay Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 There's far too much sneering here and not nearly enough sympathy. I disagree. He's been out of work for 2 years. If he can't get a job in that time then there's something wrong somewhere. I've been out of work and the first thing I did was cut back spending and applied for Housing benefit and jobseekers. I spent 6 months on the dole before taking a job I didn't want for a 4-week project. Stayed 8 months, then did some contracting and got back into fulltime employed work that way. He doesn't need sympathy, he needs a kick up the @rse. Cut the spending. Cut the expectation. Cut the list of everything he deserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rented Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 There' s far too much sneering here and not nearly enough sympathy. She feels ashamed because of someone else's unemployment, it suggests she values 'status' above most other things and is unable to accept that things have changed. People lose their jobs, circumstances change, these things happen, there's no shame in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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