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By Jingo it's war!

I go with the views previously posted on here: that the majors have already done their research and concluded there's nothing currently economically worthwhile down there, so you have these minnows trying to suck in investment and boost their share price by press releases like this. Non-story.

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By Jingo it's war!

Non-story.

Might not be a story now, but when the President of Argentina publicly states, "We are going to get the Falklands back" and the USA, refers to them as 'The Malvinas, and not the Falkland Islands, whilst stating Britain and Argentina should be negotiating for Sovereignty, the writings on the wall.........

Sir Sandy Woodward, the retired admiral who led the British taskforce which set sail for the Falklands in 1982, told a newspaper earlier this week he feared the islands were "now perilously close to being indefensible".

"The simple truth is without aircraft carriers and without the Americans, we would not have any hope of doing the same again today."

The only reason we won last time is because the Argentinians, grossly miscalculated that the USA would support them over us, a NATO ally.

[And gave us sidewinders for the Sea Harriers etc]

Lets make a list of territories our good ol' [backstabbing] cousins in the USA should return shall we?

Edited by Milton

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An emerging machismo South American Country would love to kick the @ss of an old european colonial power.

I wonder if they would be stupid enough to invade again?

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It did'nt help that England beat Argentina in the Rugby world cup either.

Hopefully by the time Argentina re-invest in their military (10 years plus) the UK should have a proper aircraft carrier or two with hopefully some planes to fly off of it!

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By Jingo it's war!

I go with the views previously posted on here: that the majors have already done their research and concluded there's nothing currently economically worthwhile down there, so you have these minnows trying to suck in investment and boost their share price by press releases like this. Non-story.

AFAIK that's how oil exploration often works - small companies do the initial location and start development. They would never have the resources to fully develop the fields they find but hope to be able to sell to a major company.

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Might not be a story now, but when the President of Argentina publicly states, "We are going to get the Falklands back"

I'm pretty sure that one is up there with "I will not let house prices get out of control".

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The oil there wasn't economical to extract when first discovered in the 1990s but with the price of oil now it is.

As for Argentina - their military is utter cr*p. And unlike in 1982, when the UK had a mere 50 Royal Marines garrisoned on the islands, we now have over a thousand armed forces personnel from all three branches - there's an air force base with 4 Eurofighters, there's a proper army garrison with anti-air defences, and there's constantly a nuclear submarine (as in a submarine powered by a nuclear reactor) on patrol in the South Atlantic. The Argentines simply cannot get to the islands by force (they don't have anything to invade with... we have a decent force to defend with). And our two new aircraft carriers are being built as we type, although we have to wait until around 2020 before they and their aircraft come into service. Even by then Argentina will still be pathetically weak militarily.

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It did'nt help that England beat Argentina in the Rugby world cup either.

Hopefully by the time Argentina re-invest in their military (10 years plus) the UK should have a proper aircraft carrier or two with hopefully some planes to fly off of it!

No nation without the atom bomb has a hope in hell against one that has it

However Argentina could cripple the UK. They could quite easily destroy a large enough portion of our infrastructure to make us 3rd world in no time

Last time it was a gentlemans 'war'. Neither side went for the others mainland. It was a show & test of each others sea & air capabilities nothing else

There will never be grand wars between those that have advances weapons.

1945 was different. Mainly because we didnt need electricity. Most of it was consumed for heating.

Today any nation with reasonable weapons could attack our power infrastructure and cripple us as directly or indirectly we need power for nearly 100% of our economy.

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The oil there wasn't economical to extract when first discovered in the 1990s but with the price of oil now it is.

As for Argentina - their military is utter cr*p. And unlike in 1982, when the UK had a mere 50 Royal Marines garrisoned on the islands, we now have over a thousand armed forces personnel from all three branches - there's an air force base with 4 Eurofighters, there's a proper army garrison with anti-air defences, and there's constantly a nuclear submarine (as in a submarine powered by a nuclear reactor) on patrol in the South Atlantic. The Argentines simply cannot get to the islands by force (they don't have anything to invade with... we have a decent force to defend with). And our two new aircraft carriers are being built as we type, although we have to wait until around 2020 before they and their aircraft come into service. Even by then Argentina will still be pathetically weak militarily.

If the Falklands do ever return to Argentina, it would be because it's people voted for it.

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If the Falklands do ever return to Argentina, it would be because it's people voted for it.

Which they won't.

But as Argentina demonstrated in 1982, the islands are a military question, not a democratic question of self-determination.

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However Argentina could cripple the UK. They could quite easily destroy a large enough portion of our infrastructure to make us 3rd world in no time

Today any nation with reasonable weapons could attack our power infrastructure

Erm, do you have any idea about Argentina? They have NOTHING that can attack the UK mainland. Nothing at all. They don't have a navy or air force (or any missiles) that can reach the Equator, let alone Europe.

Edited by Chuffy Chuffnell

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How do you think the rest of South America will react to a neo-imperialist resource-grab of the continent's resources? It's not as if a despised junta is still running Argentina.

I know lots of people on this site live in some dimly remembered highly selective version of the past, but times really have changed. The Hispanic vote in the US is now far too important for any politician there to ignore.

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Its September, the brokers are back from their holidays,and its time for a giant new oil find that might have potential.

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How do you think the rest of South America will react to a neo-imperialist resource-grab of the continent's resources? It's not as if a despised junta is still running Argentina.

I know lots of people on this site live in some dimly remembered highly selective version of the past, but times really have changed. The Hispanic vote in the US is now far too important for any politician there to ignore.

Why would a US citizen with hispanic ethnicity vote for a President or Congressman who supports Argentina's claim over the Falklands? It suits the US and its corporations if the Falklands remain British. And I don't see how the United States' hispanic population feel any sympathy for Argentina? Mexico maybe, but why Argentina? The US government's recent support for Argentina is merely a diplomatic rouse. Obama has spent the last 3 years going around the world telling every country he visits that they are America's best friend etc. It's all bullsh!t.

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The oil there wasn't economical to extract when first discovered in the 1990s but with the price of oil now it is.

As for Argentina - their military is utter cr*p. And unlike in 1982, when the UK had a mere 50 Royal Marines garrisoned on the islands, we now have over a thousand armed forces personnel from all three branches - there's an air force base with 4 Eurofighters, there's a proper army garrison with anti-air defences, and there's constantly a nuclear submarine (as in a submarine powered by a nuclear reactor) on patrol in the South Atlantic. The Argentines simply cannot get to the islands by force (they don't have anything to invade with... we have a decent force to defend with). And our two new aircraft carriers are being built as we type, although we have to wait until around 2020 before they and their aircraft come into service. Even by then Argentina will still be pathetically weak militarily.

+1.

The Argentians antique airforce wouldnt even see the 4 Euro fighters that shot them all out of the sky within 24 hours. Last time 24 Harriers and Naval / Army air defence shot down approximately 1/3rd of the Argentinian airforce.

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An emerging machismo South American Country would love to kick the @ss of an old european colonial power.

I wonder if they would be stupid enough to invade again?

The second there is a whiff of military intervention the UK will reinforce the Falklands with Eurofighters and possibly some Tornadoes in 24 hours. We cant get ships down there quickly but we can still move enough aircraft with tanker support via Asenscion.

Inside 48 hours we could have extra rapid reaction ground forces flown in. Anyway they have stockpiled plenty of heavy gear and ammo just incase.

Edited by Kurt Barlow

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And if during a conflict the yanks gave any support to Argentina even political, then we would have to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan immediately as the home territory was under threat. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Obama/Clinton.

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And if during a conflict the yanks gave any support to Argentina even political, then we would have to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan immediately as the home territory was under threat. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Obama/Clinton.

I recall that witch Hilary Clinton calling into question the soveriegnty of the Falklands.

Cheers - so much for the special relaltionship which would appear to be similar to the relationship the prison bitch has with the big daddy of the wing <_<

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And if during a conflict the yanks gave any support to Argentina even political, then we would have to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan immediately as the home territory was under threat. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Obama/Clinton.

More seriously, the British army is the figleaf that protects the USA's modesty in its overseas military adventures, and allows it to claim to be leading an "international coalition".

Without us, the Yanks would cope fine militarily, but would not be able to hide the bully-boy reality of their invasions.

(Sorry to any Armed Forces posters on this site, but that's really what I think our contribution is in Afghaniraq).

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Might not be a story now, but when the President of Argentina publicly states, "We are going to get the Falklands back" and the USA, refers to them as 'The Malvinas, and not the Falkland Islands, whilst stating Britain and Argentina should be negotiating for Sovereignty, the writings on the wall.........

Sir Sandy Woodward, the retired admiral who led the British taskforce which set sail for the Falklands in 1982, told a newspaper earlier this week he feared the islands were "now perilously close to being indefensible".

The only reason we won last time is because the Argentinians, grossly miscalculated that the USA would support them over us, a NATO ally.

[And gave us sidewinders for the Sea Harriers etc]

Lets make a list of territories our good ol' [backstabbing] cousins in the USA should return shall we?

Never trust America, they in it for their own gain.

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And if during a conflict the yanks gave any support to Argentina even political, then we would have to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan immediately as the home territory was under threat. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Obama/Clinton.

The USA as no problem in expanding and taking resources from others, just look at the land they took from Mexico.

http://en.wikipedia....%93American_War

Then during the early part of the 20th Century American businesses took most of Mexico's oil and silver wealth.

The U.S.A become the very thing the founding fathers detested along time ago.

Edited by Lord D'arcy Pew

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