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liverpool council are pulling down 400+ large 3 story victorian terraces (very fine homes after renovations) and replacing them with some faceless, footballer barrat flatlets. one house was former beatle ringo starrs !!

whats that ?

pulling down good houses in a housing shortage ?

yes. to preserve the area ? (prices more like). local residents are very much against it. they want them renovated. they are rock solid, just boarded up a little. instead of converting them inside they are going to pull them down and build another barrat executive flat block for £150k + which will stand empty mostly with no gardens, or street or community. they left them delapidated on purpose for a long time to justify the move.

liverpool council - you are crap.

this is the same council thats trying to attract international visitors, yet they destroy everything liverpool is known for. how many americans are going to come view barrat flats.

they are destroying the history instead of renovating it.

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I think its great they are building new properties, its probably cheaper to do it than renovate anyway. Who cares if its "ringo stars" former girlfriends, lovers, roommates house he sold 50 years ago!! :)

Knock it down, build it better is what I say.

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liverpool council are pulling down 400+ large 3 story victorian terraces (very fine homes after renovations) and replacing them with some faceless, footballer barrat flatlets. one house was former beatle ringo starrs !!

whats that ?

pulling down good houses in a housing shortage ?

yes. to preserve the area ? (prices more like). local residents are very much against it. they want them renovated. they are rock solid, just boarded up a little. instead of converting them inside they are going to pull them down and build another barrat executive flat block for £150k + which will stand empty mostly with no gardens, or street or community. they left them delapidated on purpose for a long time to justify the move.

liverpool council - you are crap.

this is the same council thats trying to attract international visitors, yet they destroy everything liverpool is known for. how many americans are going to come view barrat flats.

they are destroying the history instead of renovating it.

This is very disappointing, L`pool is massively over developed in the city centre. I met with a developer not so long back, he`s re-doing an old building in the city centre, top prices of 700K. He believes that the Grosvenor shopping centre will create that many jobs all the empty flats above 150K, including his own, will be snapped up. I questioned the logic of this to him on the basis that the minimum wage currently on offer in retail business would have to rise to approx. £15 per hour to afford the 150K mortgage, not withstanding the fact that most retailers were on their knees. He didn`t get it, which is equally concerning given he is playing around with, I think, 3 mil of RBS monopoly money

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money and profits aside.

i feel they are making teh same mistake as the past with the high rise rush.

old wide liverpool streets with edwardian housing when renovated are superb buildings only 50 years from becoming listed. why replace these with cheap, static pointless barrat flats that will one day need pulling down.

they need to preserve and renovate as much as they can for in 2067 a liverpool full of history will be worth more than some faceless desolate metroplex copy of london that just isnt london, but is like most other faceless desolate towns..

liverpool council are destroying the future of liverpool.

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money and profits aside.

i feel they are making teh same mistake as the past with the high rise rush.

old wide liverpool streets with edwardian housing when renovated are superb buildings only 50 years from becoming listed. why replace these with cheap, static pointless barrat flats that will one day need pulling down.

they need to preserve and renovate as much as they can for in 2067 a liverpool full of history will be worth more than some faceless desolate metroplex copy of london that just isnt london, but is like most other faceless desolate towns..

liverpool council are destroying the future of liverpool.

Entirely agree, and this has been seen before. I very much doubt that it isn't profitable to refurbish these Victorian terraces. Huge swathes of them were destroyed, along with their communities back in the 60s and 70s. We are all aware of the resulting high-rise utopia. It's a general lack of understanding of what can be achieved. Even the most modest Victorian place, suitable updated, is built to a better standard, looks better and can offer the same comforts as a new build. In fact I suggest, as a simple example, that you look at the quality and effort of brickwork of Victorian buildings compared to modern stuff. Builders then seem to take a greater pride in their work.

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and you get real streets. go into these new build uber areas after 8pm and there is no one about.

the architectural illustrations where stick men point at renovated canal wharfs is pure artistic licence. they are deserted.

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local residents are very much against it. they want them renovated.

That's the death knell for them then.

they left them delapidated on purpose for a long time to justify the move.

Just wait and see how long those "quality" Barratt flats last. And what exactly is an "executive" flat? Does anyone know an executive that would actually live in a new build flat? or any flat for that matter?

this is the same council thats trying to attract international visitors, yet they destroy everything liverpool is known for. how many americans are going to come view barrat flats.

Just tell them the Kitchens are from MFI, that'll bring the punters in.

they are destroying the history instead of renovating it.

Brave new world...

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This was covered on the last edition of Newsnight (someones got to watch it).

An architect was having his pop at the housing minister at the amount of vacant homes there are in Britain. He said that there are more than 100,000 homes like this in London alone. The govt are going to bring in a law which means they can enforce those who are sitting on empty stock to rent them out via the council as housing association if they have been vacant for more than 6 months.

You can watch the programme here . Its about halfway through the programme, if you want to watch it. They did mention the problem in Liverpool, I got the impression that its a bigger problem there, than anywhere else, for demolishing properties and rebuilding at a lesser qulity. They pretty much covered what you are sying in this thread. Class line from Paxman at the end of the show.

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