Si1 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 day traders rarely make money.over the years the bid offer will kill you and make the middle man a porshce driver yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terribad Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 whats the totty like Overweight, old, and riddled - just how I likes 'em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Bunny Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Killer does that mean you think 5600 (which you thought was a possibility last week), is now off the cards, i.e. we've run out of steam (after briefly breaching 5400)? It's looking a bit like that especially with what might be in store today & tomorrow. We got close wouldn;t you agree? Especially as everyone was negative at the time I wrote it. We're now at a juncture. S&P could go back to 1180 then rise to 1260 which would give us 5600 ish or just go straight there. If 1180 then continues down then 1120/5200 here we come 1st stop. 60% 1180 then 1260. 20% 1260 20% 1120 Intermediate, sub 1000 this year / 4500 or less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Bunny Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 In many cases even if the Dividend was cut 25% the yield is still good. Take a look at the following for example at current prices; BAE - 6.7% Morgan Sindall - 7% GSK - 5.3% Marstons - 6.1% Div useless as based on expectations. Er... Also, 7%: what if cut, what if stock falls 30% - 4 yrs divs gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Barlow Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 day traders rarely make money.over the years the bid offer will kill you and make the middle man a porshce driver Buy (in the dips) and hold, buy and hold. See my post RE: Mcbride shares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Barlow Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Div useless as based on expectations. Er... Also, 7%: what if cut, what if stock falls 30% - 4 yrs divs gone. Which is why I only buy in market slumps which protects you to a certain degree from this effect- see my post RE Mcbride shares. 18% share growth over 3-5 year period with approx 6% a year in dividends. Nothing spectacular but a dam sight better than cash in the bank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 September 11th, 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Give us a clue then TMT, becuase 11 Sept (this year), is on a Sunday! 10th anniversary of 911. Big date. Hope nothing will happen around this time, but don't be surprised if it does. In fact, we all should be extra careful this month IMPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I find it's the days you don't worry about that you need to worry about. Every one is worrying about Sept/Oct from a financial perspective but this year we have the added issue of the 10th anniversary. It is not just the 10th we have to worry about but the weeks before and after... I suppose we are about to find out just how weakened Al Qaeda are. I just don't think anyone who is investing in stocks at the moment can ignore the possibility of some terror event around this anniversary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 What do you think about 11/11/11. I understand 11 is lucky. Any races that day? Buy a lottery ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I spot a flaw. Buy 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 So far, officials told ABC News they have no specific intelligence of any anniversary plot. There is zero intelligence of such a plot, and none of the "chatter" that has often been prior to major attacks, according to a person briefed on U.S. Intelligence.But based on the exhortations by Osama bin Laden that Al Qaeda and its associates across the globe strike America on the anniversary, the security cordon around the anniversary event in New York and no less than three expected presidential visits is extremely tight. Feds, Cops Ramp Up Ahead of 9/11 Anniversary http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/feds-cops-ramp-ahead-911-anniversary/story?id=14429867 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbug9999 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Buy (in the dips) and hold, buy and hold. See my post RE: Mcbride shares. Buy and hold, CP averaging etc only work if there is a general upward trend. Recent (last few years) events have shown that equity trends depend on credit supply. In days of effective ZIRP the only thing that can drive equities up over the long term is QE - or genuine sustained economic growth of course but I think I can safely ignore that possibility as beign too remote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Barlow Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Buy and hold, CP averaging etc only work if there is a general upward trend. Recent (last few years) events have shown that equity trends depend on credit supply. In days of effective ZIRP the only thing that can drive equities up over the long term is QE - or genuine sustained economic growth of course but I think I can safely ignore that possibility as beign too remote Well so far its a strategy given me moderate growth over the past 5 years plus a healthy dividend flow. ok I should have gone gold in 2007 but didnt.... I have about £4500 a month surplus income - what alternatives do you suggest to defensive stocks and where I have some hope of keeping pace with inflation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terribad Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Well so far its a strategy given me moderate growth over the past 5 years plus a healthy dividend flow. ok I should have gone gold in 2007 but didnt.... I have about £4500 a month surplus income - what alternatives do you suggest to defensive stocks and where I have some hope of keeping pace with inflation? I'll look after it for ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Barlow Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 yes,yes. see my post re bt,ba,barc,lloy,rbs,marconi etc etc. Yes but those firms all have problems of their own making. BT - huge debt pile, Barclays, RBS, Lloyds - banksters / bad debt, Marconi - catastrophic business decision - ie sell off crown jewels. In contrast Mcbride manufacture washing powder, personal care, and household products, manfacture and sell in several countries. Dull I know but a fairly stable demand base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terribad Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Non farm payroll data in 10 minutes. Always causes ripples in the market. BNo idea wh they exclude farming jobs though. Presumably at some point in history those annoying famrers weren't creating enough jobs, so they took them out of the statistics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terribad Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 No in an hour. FFS. this always happens. starting to see why these trading offices have multiple clocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terribad Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Where are you located? Oh I'm not in a trading office. I should have said "those" offices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terribad Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 This may be of help to you: http://www.deltastock.com/english/resources/economic_calendar.asp?df=7.07.2011&strSearch=&country=&indicator= ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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