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http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/aug/30/homelessness-middle-class-crisis-study

The economic downturn and the government's deep cuts to welfare will drive up homelessness over the next few years, raising the spectre of middle class people living on the streets, a major study warns.

The report by the homelessness charity Crisis, seen by the Guardian, says there is a direct link between the downturn and rising homelessness as cuts to services and draconian changes to benefits shred the traditional welfare safety net.

In the 120-page study, co-authored by academics at the University of York and Heriot-Watt University, Crisis highlights figures released over the summer which show councils have reported 44,160 people accepted as homeless and placed in social housing, an increase of 10% on the previous year and the first increase in almost a decade.

Christ it's going to be horrendous especially with the shortages of rented properties, rents and house prices can only go up on this news.

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... and the government's deep cuts to welfare will drive up homelessness over the next few years, raising the spectre of middle class people living on the streets, a major study warns...

Christ it's going to be horrendous especially with the shortages of rented properties, rents and house prices can only go up on this news.

What are they cutting? If it's housing benefit and SMI then this is going to be great for the middle classes who will no longer be outbid by the scroungers.

If they cut tax credits and unemployment then we should have a boom as more people seek work or longer hours.

Great news (if only it were true).

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So because an extra 44K have been put in social HOUSING, homelessness could spread to the middle class. Why doesn't it say something like... and they're going to run out of social housing?

It says housing benefit cuts have been savage. Then goes on to say those classed as homeless have been put into bedsits. So does this mean if you can't get a place for housing benefit money you will go into a bedsit, costing the tax payer more?

It seems like the rise of rough sleeping is mainly down to recession putting migrants who don't qualify for housing benefit on the street. I'm guessing these migrants aren't middle class. Damn good reporting though. Makes a lot of sense.

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That is terrible. We can't have middle class people living on the streets.

We'll just have to re-define what it means to be middle class.

:lol::lol:

They'll have to be called something like the NuMiddleClass.

Or

the We'reAll InItTogether Middle Class.

Edited by billybong

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Habitat tent cities in Esher?

(Not making light of homelessness, anyone unintentionally homeless through no obvious fault of their own is not anything I smile at btw)

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Habitat tent cities in Esher?

(Not making light of homelessness, anyone unintentionally homeless through no obvious fault of their own is not anything I smile at btw)

Hmm its not middle class vs. working class. Its people who can afford their mortgage vs. those who cannot.

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Well at least their ramblings will be in a well spoken english, the quality of their cardboard signs will be much improved and instead 3 litre bottles of cider they will be sipping wine from morrisons

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Similar topic in the Mail

Cash-strapped homeowners are being telephoned by their banks and told to cut spending on ‘luxuries’ – or risk losing their homes.

Every week, around 2,000 customers of Northern Rock Asset Management and Bradford & Bingley are being warned to slash their outlay on mobile phones, gym memberships and even socialising, to ‘prioritise’ their mortgages.

Finally the mood in the MSM is turning bearish (Express excepted :rolleyes: )

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Ive tried posting a number of comments under a Guardian article this morning. All rooted in Economic Fact. Some of them got through...:rolleyes:

Edited by Milton

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That is terrible. We can't have middle class people living on the streets.

We'll just have to re-define what it means to be middle class.

back to its original meaning, you mean?

tim

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<br />How can you become homeless when the taxpayer pays your mortgage or rent if needed?<br />
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That was my EXACT initial thought??? this is just more benefit reform scaremongering in a different vein. <_<

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:lol::lol:

They'll have to be called something like the NuMiddleClass.

Or

the We'reAll InItTogether Middle Class.

I've had this discussion before on here....they ( nuLieBour ) did redefine middle class, or at least try to. Now anyone who owns a show box house, in debt up to the ears for said house, even more debt to buy a flashy car and 2 nice holidays a year would tell yuo they are middle class.

They are not !!!

I've met a couple of "real" middle class people families/people, real money, chief exec types, proper education, not flashy, not showy...will never be out on the street, they are a class apart from the nuMiddle Class. NuMiddleClass are just the working class with more debt.

Edited by TheCountOfNowhere

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I've had this discussion before on here....they ( nuLieBour ) did redefine middle class, or at least try to. Now anyone who owns a show box house, in debt up to the ears for said house, even more debt to buy a flashy car and 2 nice holidays a year would tell yuo they are middle class.

They are not !!!

I've met a couple of "real" middle class people families/people, real money, chief exec types, proper education, not flashy, not showy...will never be out on the street, they are a class apart from the nuMiddle Class. NuMiddleClass are just the working class with more debt.

Puts me in mind of the Beggars Guild in Discworld

http://wiki.lspace.org/wiki/Beggars%27_Guild

The president of the Beggars' Guild is called Queen or King and wears the traditional velvet gown. He or she often finds life difficult because, due to the high rank, he/she will have to beg for something extravagant, and very few people are prepared to lend a 16-room mansion.

All Hail Queen Kirsty!

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I've had this discussion before on here....they ( nuLieBour ) did redefine middle class, or at least try to. Now anyone who owns a show box house, in debt up to the ears for said house, even more debt to buy a flashy car and 2 nice holidays a year would tell yuo they are middle class.

They are not !!!

I've met a couple of "real" middle class people families/people, real money, chief exec types, proper education, not flashy, not showy...will never be out on the street, they are a class apart from the nuMiddle Class. NuMiddleClass are just the working class with more debt.

numiddle class is in debt to its eyeballs, supps cheap Aussie chardonnay, says it's corked if there's a bit of cork in it, cooks sweet and sour chicken in a non-stick wok, and thinks they can predict the lottery numbers

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What class am I? Serious question

We have a combined income of 55k, rent a flat, one (new) car between us, only debts are student loans (17k between us), no kids, 2 foreign holidays a year, white collar jobs. Save a third of our post tax income. No credit cards allowed in my household ;)

I honestly have no idea what class I am. We sort of have a cat.

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What class am I? Serious question

We have a combined income of 55k, rent a flat, one (new) car between us, only debts are student loans (17k between us), no kids, 2 foreign holidays a year, white collar jobs. Save a third of our post tax income. No credit cards allowed in my household ;)

I honestly have no idea what class I am. We sort of have a cat.

Working class.

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If you are judgemental and self important you might be middle class. If you think class has anything to do with money you are probably middle class. If you feel a moral obligation to break your back for the benefit of others and feel inferior for reasons you cant quite put your finger on you are probably working class. If you take people as you find them and don't care what others think, you are classless, but others probably think of you as upper class or working class depending on your net worth and/or accent, which you do not fake. The accent fakers are middle class.

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numiddle class is in debt to its eyeballs, supps cheap Aussie chardonnay, says it's corked if there's a bit of cork in it, cooks sweet and sour chicken in a non-stick wok, and thinks they can predict the lottery numbers

LOL, like the scene in Fawlty Towers when someone says the wine is corked, and Basil says 'no it isn't, I just took it out'.

Anyway...I get a bit annoyed when the media and special interest groups go on about 'homelessness'. There are very few genuinely homeless people in the UK and for those that are, it is usually because of alcoholism, drug addiction or mental illness which are seperate issues to housing provision.

It sounds harsh but a family in bed and breakfast accommodation, while not in an ideal situation, is nevertheless not 'homeless' just as someone without a telly is not 'poor'. If we had Hoovervilles (tent cities) like in the US it would be different but in the UK the Lord (the taxpayer) still always provides...

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The term 'middle class' has certainly been redefined in The Guardian's world view. The mere claim that reductions in welfare benefits could force the middle class into homelessness implies that for Guardian readers and their ilk, it is normal and unremarkable for the definition of middle class to include benefit claimants. Until very recently, benefits were only claimed by people who are incapable of earning a living for themselves, for whatever reason: those who were able to earn a salary were not expected to be on benefits, and the middle class was not expected to be among them.

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