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Soon I will be jailed for 4 years for spreading such dangerous information on the net... for my own protection of course.

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http://www.bloomberg...n-protests.html

By Stefan Nicola and Alex Webb - Aug 17, 2011 12:41 PM GMT Wed Aug 17 11:41:17 GMT 2011

Car Burnings in Berlin

Stefan Nicola/Bloomberg

Far-left extremists (:rolleyes:) are specifically targeting German luxury cars, symbols of the country's wealth and power, bringing the total number of vehicles torched in the German capital this year to at least 138, more than double the figure for all of 2010.

Berlin resident Renate Langanke woke up shortly after midnight to a loud explosion. When the pensioner peeked out her window, she saw flames billowing from two Mercedes-Benz brand cars parked across the street.

"Fire and smoke were everywhere, you could smell burned rubber, it was awful," said Langanke, who lives in a sleepy area with tree-lined alleys in white-collar western Berlin. "I've always felt safe here, now I'm scared."

Arsonists have set fire to 26 cars in the German capital in the last two days, mainly from Daimler AG (DAI)'s Mercedes, Bayerische Motoren Werke AG (BMW) and Volkswagen AG (VOW)'s Audi, police said today. That brings the total number torched this year in Berlin to at least 138, more than double the figure for all of 2010.

The rise in Berlin car burnings coincides with widespread lawlessness that erupted last week across England. More than 1,500 people were arrested as rioters looted shops, attacked bystanders and burnt autos. In Berlin, far-left extremists are specifically targeting German luxury cars, symbols of the country's wealth and export prowess, police said.

"The arsonists want to hit what they say are 'Fat Cats,'" Berlin police spokesman Michael Gassen said. A special unit is investigating the fires as political crimes after the police received letters claiming responsibility that derided globalization, gentrification and rising rents, he said.

Political Discontent

While the attacks are spread out over the year, police usually see a spike during the summer months. In some cases, arsonists have placed barbeque charcoal lighters on tires and ignited them, Thomas Neuendorf, a Berlin police spokesman, said today. Arsonists have in the past also lit a car's hood on fire after hosing it with accelerant. No arrests have been made in the most recent string of attacks.

The fires come amid worsening economic data and political discontent in the country. German growth, last year the motor of Europe's recovery, almost ground to a halt in the second quarter. Gross domestic product, adjusted for seasonal effects, rose 0.1 percent from the first quarter, the Federal Statistics Office in Wiesbaden said yesterday.

Almost two years into the European debt crisis that began in Greece, restiveness over Germany's contribution to rescues is also weighing on Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition as voters rebel over providing aid to fellow euro countries.

Merkel's Christian Democrats have the backing of 32 percent of Germans, while her coalition partners, the Free Democrats, are supported by 3 percent, according to a Forsa poll released Aug. 10. The two parties won the 2009 election with a combined 48.4 percent support.

Luxury Cars

When the country in 2009 experienced its worst recession since World War II, a record 221 autos were torched. A key factor for the unrest is that about 40 percent of German youths are either without a high school degree or a paying job, according to Johannes Becker, head of the Center for Conflict Studies at the University of Marburg.

"In Britain you have the phenomenon that people are predisposed to jumping on the bandwagon," Becker said. "They see that something is up and want to be part of it, to add some fuel to the fire, as it were. With these cars in Berlin, they are in contrast consciously trying to send a message."

Berlin also has a history of political protest, where the violent Baader-Meinhof gang staged its first armed attack in the city in 1970, and demonstrators today regularly clash with police during May Day marches.

"It is not necessarily the financial crisis which is the main motivation for these attacks," said Carsten Koschmieder, a political scientist at the Free University in Berlin. "The perpetrators see themselves as being from the left, and protest against capitalism, globalization and gentrification."

Moving West

The attacks in the past happened mainly in eastern Berlin districts where more affluent tenants had pushed out squatters who arrived there after reunification in 1990. It's a "new trend" that arsonists have now moved west, targeting areas such as Westend and its upscale neighbor Charlottenburg, said Michael Maass, a Berlin police spokesman.

Pensioner Wolfgang Lambrecht inspected a burned-out silver Mercedes yesterday afternoon that was parked next to a tree, its trunk blackened by the fire. Lambrecht, who has lived in a nearby apartment for 16 years, woke up in the middle of the night when the smell of burning tires crept through his open bedroom window.

"In the morning, when I saw all the damage, I was so upset that I told my wife, 'Let's pack our bags and get out of here,'" he said. "But that would be giving in to the radicals, wouldn't it?'

To contact the reporters on this story: Stefan Nicola in Berlin at snicola2@bloomberg.net; Alex Webb in Frankfurt at awebb25@bloomberg.net.

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Chad Thomas at cthomas16@bloomberg.net

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"The arsonists want to hit what they say are 'Fat Cats,'" Berlin police spokesman Michael Gassen said. A special unit is investigating the fires as political crimes after the police received letters claiming responsibility that derided globalization, gentrification and rising rents, he said.

Special units, political crimes for deriding globalisation and rising rents?

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Die Fetten Jahre Sind Vorbei!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtve89UfVCA&feature=related

A lot of people are being priced out of Berlin.

And there was no shortage of accommodation in the East with all the old Plattenbau - so they knocked them down to shore up prices.

Luxury apartments and hotels have been built over community open spaces.

This film from 2004 questioned why there was so little protest.

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Arsonists have set fire to 26 cars in the German capital in the last two days, mainly from Daimler AG (DAI)'s Mercedes, Bayerische Motoren Werke AG (BMW) and Volkswagen AG (VOW)'s Audi, police said today. That brings the total number torched this year in Berlin to at least 138, more than double the figure for all of 2010.

Is there a futures market for this? Maybe IG Index could get involved?

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When they torch a Beemer, an insurance company will buy the owner a new one. The insurance company pays for this out of premiums from all its customers. So in effect this is a wealth transfer from the masses to BMW, is it not? I think the lefties haven't thought this one through (there's a surprise).

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When they torch a Beemer, an insurance company will buy the owner a new one. The insurance company pays for this out of premiums from all its customers. So in effect this is a wealth transfer from the masses to BMW, is it not? I think the lefties haven't thought this one through (there's a surprise).

Ah but if they burn enough of them, they might deter future buyers.

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Die Fetten Jahre Sind Vorbei!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtve89UfVCA&feature=related

A lot of people are being priced out of Berlin.

And there was no shortage of accommodation in the East with all the old Plattenbau - so they knocked them down to shore up prices.

Luxury apartments and hotels have been built over community open spaces.

This film from 2004 questioned why there was so little protest.

I have a "friend" on Facebook, think he is based in Hamberg. I quite often post links from this site on my profile and he comments. His English is not good, but I gather there is growing unrest at rising rents in Germany.

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Ah but if they burn enough of them, they might deter future buyers.

Depends on how the German equivalent of no-claims bonuses work I guess...

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reminds me of those terrraces knocked down in liverpool and manchester to make way for well.......they never built owt on most of em.saw a family that had a nice terraced paid off,got shunted into a flat while they cleared the streets and then got left there when the plans fell through.

covered here

http://blitzandblight.com/terrace-housing

'An ITV Tonight with Trevor McDonald programme in 2005, proved that a house in Liverpool, that had been earmarked for demolition, could actually be refurbished for £18,000: only slightly more than the cost of knocking it down, without having built anything new to replace it.'

nothing short of f**** scandalous

Speaking to the Manchester Evening News in 2007, Blears insisted: “It’s always hard for people to understand why their house needs to be demolished, and we need to be sensitive to that, but at the same time we need to transform Seedley for the long-term.”

The worst sort of patronising leftie tool, ripping the place up and couldn't care less.

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I'm confused. They said they were burning luxury cars so why is there a photo of what appears to be a burnt-out BMW1 series?

I could understand a point being made if these were top end BMW 7 series and Mercs but they are just the common or garden ten a penny ones that everyone has nowadays. Seems a little harsh on the average joe who let's face it, isn't by any means rich simply because he owns one.

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The reason to buy them and the reason to burn them are the same- they are symbols of wealth.

I think the rich should do something about the bankers- they are giving inequality a bad name. :lol:

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When they torch a Beemer, an insurance company will buy the owner a new one. The insurance company pays for this out of premiums from all its customers. So in effect this is a wealth transfer from the masses to BMW, is it not? I think the lefties haven't thought this one through (there's a surprise).

But it would also bump up the cost of insuring a luxury car IMHO (although the rich might just see that as an added status symbol).

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Seems a little harsh on the average joe who let's face it, isn't by any means rich simply because he owns one.

Ah, but that's the point. It's all about perception. The average Joe buys a BMW with money he doesn't have to give an illusion of wealth to those he socially competes with. The message is obviously noticed and endured also by those who cannot compete. It is the same contradiction we saw when some of those muppets in London said they were targeting 'rich people' when they smashed shops and burned building. All they saw were the designer clothes, branded accessories and 4X4s.

This is what you want ...

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The reason to buy them and the reason to burn them are the same- they are symbols of wealth.

I think the rich should do something about the bankers- they are giving inequality a bad name. :lol:

Hardly a symbol of wealth. An exclusive car is a symbol of wealth. Something like an Aston Martin for example. These are the mass produced cars so you're just burning the common man (or woman). See stats below for how many are sold. Over 250,000 for the three manufacturers, sold in the UK.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/Industry-News/UK-2010-car-sales-analysis-winners-and-losers/

Now a Rolls Royve 319 sold last year! That's a symbol of wealth IMHO.

EDIT: I just realised. It's hard to track down a Rolls, but easy to burn out a BMW if there are five per street. Lazy rioters ;)

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Hardly a symbol of wealth. An exclusive car is a symbol of wealth. Something like an Aston Martin for example. These are the mass produced cars so you're just burning the common man (or woman). See stats below for how many are sold. Over 250,000 for the three manufacturers, sold in the UK.

http://www.carmagazi...ers-and-losers/

Now a Rolls Royve 319 sold last year! That's a symbol of wealth IMHO.

EDIT: I just realised. It's hard to track down a Rolls, but easy to burn out a BMW if there are five per street. Lazy rioters ;)

You know that. But most ... 'left wing extremists' ... and most of those who buy these cars only see them as status symbols.

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Ah, but that's the point. It's all about perception. The average Joe buys a BMW with money he doesn't have to give an illusion of wealth to those he socially competes with.

You can get a Lexus instead! They don't break down much and are invisible! :huh:

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Hmmmm. German Police expecting things to kick off there . . .

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Germany also at risk of riots, police union warns

A police union has warned that riots of the kind that have gripped Britain for the past four nights could happen in Germany.

Rainer Wendt, head of the German Police Union (DPolG) told Wednesday’s edition of Bild that Germany shares the combustible social problems that have driven the massive riots in London and other major cities for the past four nights.

“The riots are the result of criminal energy, contempt for the state and the social marginalisation of certain groups,” he said.

This “highly explosive mix” also existed in Germany. Particularly in large cities such as Hamburg and Berlin, “such flashpoints could arise out of senseless provocation, which can only be contained with great difficulty,” he said.

“Police and politicians in Germany would be similarly overstretched in the early days of such massive riots as they were in Great Britain,” he said.

However. the centre-left Social Democrats’ interior affairs expert, Dieter Wiefelspütz, said such an outbreak in Germany was “rather unlikely.”

“We have a better safety net for social deprivation and less poverty in city areas than Britain.”

Hmmmm again. Quote: “We have a better safety net for social deprivation and less poverty in city areas than Britain"

Discuss?

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Hmmmm. German Police expecting things to kick off there . . .

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Hmmmm again. Quote: “We have a better safety net for social deprivation and less poverty in city areas than Britain"

Discuss?

"The home secretary, Theresa May, has dismissed fears that deep spending cuts could undermine the ability of the police to tackle possible civil unrest, and insisted the British did not respond to austerity by rioting on the streets."

None of them have clocked on that socionomic regression will be the entire driver of this as it is every depression, they all still think/hope they are living in a credit expansion rather than a K Winter, still they arent alone in that there were a number on here saying riots wont happen because of X factor this Ice dancing that, it completely fails to understand what is fundamentally happening and will continue to do across all groups and ages as they enter relative poverty and that is massive social deterioration

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"The home secretary, Theresa May . . . . insisted the British did not respond to austerity by rioting on the streets."

None of them have clocked on that socionomic regression will be the entire driver of this . . . .completely fails to understand what is fundamentally happening and will continue to do across all groups and ages as they enter relative poverty . . .

Very well put.

The glib analysis in the press has drawn few conclusions from the fact that our looting funsters were from extremely diverse age groups and backgrounds . . . from eleven year old hoodies to school teachers. You can't pigeonhole here.

The underclass created in the last decade has swallowed up pretty much everyone.

Teresa May is still living in wartime . . . no we didn't riot when on rationing. The toxic mix is when there is only austerity for some and one rule for them.

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Hmmmm. German Police expecting things to kick off there . . .

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Hmmmm again. Quote: “We have a better safety net for social deprivation and less poverty in city areas than Britain"

Discuss?

Germany's socialist welfare state provides better benefits for those at the lower rungs of the socio-economic ladder than does the UK. Germany wouldn't have any poverty at all if the German politicians had not let in god knows how many third world immigrants.

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