mkz Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Personally, I think anyone who agrees with 90% of this should sign it. Yes. Or even just the headline! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkz Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Sorry, I didn't see that. Maybe I need to spend more time on this site! Sign the petition and I'll forgive you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantnrave Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I'm surprised PricedOut haven't already done something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winkie Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Don't worry I won't! The government will no longer have to 'subsidise' my rent and will have 100k + to build a new CH and thereby keep people in work! I won't even bother the bankers! ...if only that was what really happend to the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicestersq Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 What about controls on the currently uncontrolled immigration? No point in covering the nation in concrete and new housing if it just encourages, and our government encourages, new visitors to our land. That has to be a key component of any plan to end the housing debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantnrave Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 What about controls on the currently uncontrolled immigration? No point in covering the nation in concrete and new housing if it just encourages, and our government encourages, new visitors to our land. That has to be a key component of any plan to end the housing debacle. There are already numerous petitions there raising this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not my real name obviously Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Signed and sent to friends. I wish someone would set up a party for under-35s (anyone could vote for it) that broadly represented young interests (vs those of baby boomers). It could get huge numbers of votes from those who feel disaffected. Shame there's no PR in the UK, what a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherBear Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/3882 Duly signed, like others there are some points in the petition that i am less keen on but overall i believe it is worth signing so that the matter can be given the debate it deserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkz Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Duly signed, like others there are some points in the petition that i am less keen on but overall i believe it is worth signing so that the matter can be given the debate it deserves. Don't forget to pass it on, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quicken Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Where was total debt forgiveness in that thread? Anyway at least you made an effort and total debt forgiveness could never happen in the UK, our banking masters wouldn't allow it, so I'll sign it. I suggested Jingle Mail in the original thread, as I believe that contributed to the HPC that has happened and is continuing in the states. Given the way the government and legal system works here, I don't expect retrospective implementation. However, if some form of Jingle Mail option were introduced for all future mortgage contracts here, that would motivate some due diligence by the lenders imho. It would be fine if the FSA were capable of imposing same, but I don't see that happening any time soon. To be fair, I was also expecting a little more debate there before the petition submission. Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkz Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 To be fair, I was also expecting a little more debate there before the petition submission. Sorry about that but, as I said, they were rejecting duplicate petitions, so I wanted to get something submitted quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetReadyToTumble Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quicken Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Sorry about that but, as I said, they were rejecting duplicate petitions, so I wanted to get something submitted quickly. Hi, that wasn't meant as a criticism; just an explanation of my thinking. I've signed the petition of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamoagm Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/3882 Everyone sign it, please! Oh, and send it to your friends and family to sign too. Signed. I'd disagree with a few points but the thrust of it is spot on. Thanks for kicking this off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quicken Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 10-15 more signatures and it will make it onto the first page of the Her Majesty's Treasury department section of the website, which is a step forward for wider reading. IMHO, this is all about widening the debate. On that basis, it is worth signing it even if you don't agree with every point made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmf Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/3882 Everyone sign it, please! Oh, and send it to your friends and family to sign too. Signed it. Won't hold my breath. Every single person in the country knew about disaffected youth 4 weeks ago. Suddenly everyone cares after they kicked off. I don't agree with their actions, but sadly violence is the only language boomers understand. They will sympathise to the end of the earth but you will only take their assets from their cold, dead hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuBrit Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 A e-petition? I am sure David Cameron and the mandarins are quaking in their boots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Democorruptcy Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I suggested Jingle Mail in the original thread, as I believe that contributed to the HPC that has happened and is continuing in the states. Given the way the government and legal system works here, I don't expect retrospective implementation. However, if some form of Jingle Mail option were introduced for all future mortgage contracts here, that would motivate some due diligence by the lenders imho. It would be fine if the FSA were capable of imposing same, but I don't see that happening any time soon. To be fair, I was also expecting a little more debate there before the petition submission. Q It assumes that bankers care what happens in the future as regards unpaid debts. If they were going to be locked up maybe they would be motivated towards more due diligence. Unfortunately they are more likely to get bonuses now and pensioned off if their debts went pear shaped. Maybe the US crash is because they had even sillier lending than us, more supply of houses, relatively less immigration and a tax system not as biased towards rentiers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEO72 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 A e-petition? I am sure David Cameron and the mandarins are quaking in their boots And yet you've still made the effort to post that comment.. Care to suggest anything better or are you just after the 'most threads trolled in one day' title? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantnrave Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 There's a lot of other good stuff there actually - raise IRs, LVT etc. Why does this one have a much shorter deadline compared to the others though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkz Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Why does this one have a much shorter deadline compared to the others though? You get the choice between (I think) 3/6/9/12 months. I chose 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantnrave Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 You get the choice between (I think) 3/6/9/12 months. I chose 6. Half the time to gather the needed votes? It's now on the front page of petitions to HM Treasury Let's hope the Boomers don't start one requesting the exact opposite... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantnrave Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 One assumes that, ahem, people's partners, kids, guinea pigs etc can sign this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev-all-in Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Personally, I think anyone who agrees with 90% of this should sign it. Here's a HPCer who has taken action to try and get something done. They haven't just started a thread about something, they're trying to get this discussed at the highest levels. If we can't unite around the bigger picture here then we're effectively saying that we'd rather just discuss these issues rather than see them changed. It's as simpe as that. There's no chance that everything being suggested is going to be implemented. An opportunity to even have these issues raised in Parliament is incredible nevertheless. It would be very sad to see this initiative shot down in flames by those that ultimately support the goal of affordable housing. The alternative is that everyone writes and submits their own proposals. 100,000 different versions get submitted which gather one vote each. The opportunity is wasted and the outcome is a big fat nothing. +1 good post I've signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkz Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Half the time to gather the needed votes? On the basis that if it's popular enough to get 100K votes in 12 months then it's popular enough to get 100K votes in 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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