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I bought a Scroll Tablet Firmware v1.02 Kernel 2.6.29 Build 2.1 back in March with the intention of loading some Open Office docs onto the unit for my course work - very long story short - I've had no end of conflicts and problems of which I have no intention of continuing to battle. If you like spending hours on end fixing this and tweaking that - then this is your ideal unit. For me just synching the unit with market place was a major task - I then didn't use the unit for ages (cos it's sh*te) and when I went back to it I was unable to download apps again (FFS it's just a program). Now I can't be bothered so it's just been loaded with a few gb of Family Guy and sits in my draw at work for a lunch time escape. I guess I could sell the piece of poo but I'd feel guilty - avoid.

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why don't you put the review on amazon where more relevant people will read it?

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why don't you put the review on amazon where more relevant people will read it?

I guess you could argue that a more appropriate place exists for all posts on here - thanks for the enlightened tip though.

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This is why I've just succumbed to the lure of Apple and bought an iPad. It "just works". Plug it in, read stuff. The restrictions are annoying, but if you use it for what it is designed for (consuming content), thus far, it is excellent.

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This is why I've just succumbed to the lure of Apple and bought an iPad. It "just works". Plug it in, read stuff. The restrictions are annoying, but if you use it for what it is designed for (consuming content), thus far, it is excellent.

+1 despite it costing an order of magnitude more

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What operating system runs on this table?

I've was considering getting an Android tablet when they become cheaper for use around the house as they are cheaper than a laptop and I could use it as a giant remote control for my PC.

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+1 despite it costing an order of magnitude more

The main Apple PC/Laptop range are expensive for what they are but the iPad is often cheaper or a comparative price to the competition.

If you want cheap, I have a brick you can purchase, it looks sort of like an iPad but has less functionality, but it's only £5. The scroll table fits that bill, it's cheap because it's crap.

For me the main selling point of Apple stuff is the control the have on both the hardware and software, most people think it's restrictive but the core benefit is stability.

I'm no apple fan boy however, my wife just got an iPad 2 so she gave me her old iPad, used it for a week before I gave it back as there were tons of things it didn't do that I wanted or needed for it to be of reasonable function.

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but if you use it for what it is designed for (consuming content), thus far, it is excellent.

Do you find the lack of Flash to be much of an issue?

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Do you find the lack of Flash to be much of an issue?

Personally i find it to be a benefit, IMO 99% of flash on the internet is there superfluously

Its very rare i find it to be justified on a website

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I used to be pretty hostile to these things. My conversion came last week in the pissing rain where I was trying to access Google Maps on my laptop as I needed to find a building I was visiting. There had to be a better way....

I've resisted smart phones because the battery life is useless, but the iPad lasts significantly longer than my laptop - you really do appear to be able to use it for a day, rather than 3 hours, which is the best I get from the Lenovo.

As a mail client, it is fine - plugged into corporate exchange perfectly, and is far more usable in meetings than a laptop, which makes it really obvious you're not paying attention. Instant start is a bonus as well. You don't want to write a 2 page mail on it, but for normal stuff it is fine. It even seems to render excel/word/ppt perfectly.

Browsing - fine. Flash is missing - but this has the sliver lining that flash adverts are also missing. Youtube and youporn work fine, what else is needed? :) You can't edit the hosts file for real ad blocking, which is very annoying - I may have to jail break it.

To be honest, the above is the totality of the reasons for buying it. Playing films and games is a bonus, and all the other silly apps that you can buy will be ignored.

It is the sheer bloody convenience of the thing that wins out over laptops and netbooks - easy to use while travelling, queueing...whatever. The engineering is also pretty neat - I have an iPod version 1 (really old thing) and the charger still fits and charges (slowly) the ipad. That consistency suggests that the ipad will still be in use in 5 years time, unlike all of the other crap out there.

As to value - OP spent £100 and got a brick. I spend £465 and got something that works. (32 GB, wifi only - got a 3G AP that is always in my bag). Yeah, I spend more on a very nice leather cover as well....

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There are ways to wirelessly connect to your iphone and use it as a 3g modem. I believe it is something like witchcraft and its called tethering which is a more cost effective decision. I stuck with a wifi only model on the basis of the extra upfront and then ongoing cost of the 3g models. IMHO the 16gb is too small if you use it for games and video. The iPad suits my needs perfectly and I'm looking forward to spending 8 hours travelling tomorrow with nothing else to do. Maybe watch a film, play smi city/monopoly/BFBC2, read a book, read the Zite/Flipboard content I've been saving offline to readitlater for a week. All sorts.

As for a case, I bought a cheap silicon skin plus a pack of screen protectors off amazon for about 7 quid and I'm using a jiffy bag as a case when I'm out of the house. No expense spared.

But this gives an idea of some limititations http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388619,00.asp

:lol: smi city, I'll leave that.

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Question. I want it to just pick up emails like my iphone does via the cellular network. Does that mean that I'd need a 3G one? That's quite a bit extra isn't it? Plus, does that mean that it's the cost price + a monthly fee on a contract? I like to browse and do stuff when on the train and I don't want to pay £10 a day for Wifi.

My fear is that if I'm out and about and need to reply to an email, I'd have to find somewhere with wifi and pay their connection charge each time to access Wifi. I guess I could just do this on my Iphone, but to be fair, the battery is usually flat after 2 hours of leaving my front door!

Valid question.

I rejected the 3G one for precisely that reason - I don't want another 3G contract. I have a 3G to wireless device from Voda that creates a wireless AP, supplied by a 3G sim. It has a battery in it, so is mobile. Costs £49 + £15 a month for 2GB. I always carry this in my bag, so effectively I have my own WiFi hotspot.

So for me, the WiFi ipad is fine, don't need 3G. I don't have a smartphone, so the option of tethering from that wasn't available. When an iPhone battery lasts 48 hours I will probably buy one, but the current life is a joke.

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I just know I'd break it, and I don't even want to imagine what Apple would want for a screen repair.

So far, touch wood it's been fine and my toddler is surprisingly careful with it.

As for repairs, I think you get an exchange unit but don't expect much change out of 300 quid, last time I checked. Therefore a decent case is a good investment.

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Everyone I've spoken with who owns an ipad has good things to say and that how their laptop has been made more or less redundant. Not sure why I bought the Scroll,I stopped drinking two years ago,so I wasn't drunk at time. I just don't have time to phoock about with stuff now,I just want it to work without too much effort. The Scroll is more like a puzzle than a real computer,at least for me (bit thick). I mean what's wrong with just downloading a program and installing it ? I don't want to have to join forums and learn how to "root" the unit (and void the warranty). As mentioned I still use unit - it's okay for playing back movies an it handles HD well. I'm sure there must be cheap 2nd ones around if you feel like a challenge.

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It doesn't make a laptop redundant - if you view it as a laptop/desktop replacement, you will be sorely disappointed. You can't really create content on it, and while the keyboard is clever, typing more than 10 lines is pretty painful. If I need to write a document, mess with spreadsheets, run SQL Server, review big documents - then I use desktop at home and a laptop on the road. If I want to browse, clear down my mailbox (with the odd long reply), watch a film, read newspapers - iPad.

I just don't have time to phoock about with stuff now,I just want it to work without too much effort.

+1

I used to think that compiling your own operating system was the best bit about computer ownership. Now I just want the damn thing to work.

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Here's a review on Amazon which for me pretty well sums up the Scroll - Enough said.

" I enjoyed owning this for the time I had it - it impressed me more than I thought it would. The clock is an issue as others have remarked ,otherwise with a bit of tweaking as advised by the Scroll forum it performed well, battery life improved,screen more responsive, no other issues(or perhaps there were). My main grumble was the apps area; after playing with a friends iPad 1 , I realised the Android market has a long way to go to catch up with Apple. Some of the apps were (no other word for it )c**p and still obviously geared to phones. One app supplier could not get their heads around the fact I had a tablet even though I emailed them several times about their non-functioning app, they kept replying with phone instructions! Oh, and try getting your money back - useless! You see an app you like on Androidpit and are then redirected to Android Market , download problems, non functioning apps - I became so frustrated I could have wept! I enjoy solving problems with gadgets but this became too much for me, not the fault of the Scroll but the non-loading apps?..I don't know. Returned to Amazon who were absolutely incredible with the refund etc BRILLIANT AMAZON!! Now have iPad 2 64 GB 3G fantastic! Still owed £10.00 by Androidpit including £3.00 plus credit never spent, can't be bothered to ask for it back - pit? hmmm......yes.

Overall, Scroll was without doubt good value for money and would be great if quirks were sorted - I'll try Android again perhaps in another couple of years when they have caught up (?) with the mighty Apple.

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Also been contemplating whether I would find an ipad useful.

Most times when on the move I use the lack of internet to give me space from e-mails to work on papers, read papers, or simply 'think'. Sometimes though it would be useful to collaborate when on the move, hence contemplating an ipad.

I don't have any phone/3G contracts, but I believe there are PAYG 3G packages that cost about 2 quid a day (fine for occasional use), is that correct ?

OK I could do my own research, but thanks anyway

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Also been contemplating whether I would find an ipad useful.

Most times when on the move I use the lack of internet to give me space from e-mails to work on papers, read papers, or simply 'think'. Sometimes though it would be useful to collaborate when on the move, hence contemplating an ipad.

I don't have any phone/3G contracts, but I believe there are PAYG 3G packages that cost about 2 quid a day (fine for occasional use), is that correct ?

OK I could do my own research, but thanks anyway

I have a variety of 3G dongles and they generally work fine. All PAYG. I think my favourite network is Three, which seems to have an effective network. Indeed at home Three is faster than my fixed line BT Broadband. However shift a lot of data (ie downloads, a lot of iplayer and youtube) and it gets expensive.

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Great choice, it's not that much heavier than a ipad.

I'm running the 2010 11" version, but seriously tempted to upgrade to the new models as they such a massive jump in CPU performance. If you have any way of getting the educational discount (teacher friends, student, .ac.uk email address) it's worth doing ;-)

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Everyone I've spoken with who owns an ipad has good things to say and that how their laptop has been made more or less redundant.

If I may politely be the odd one out then.

I have had to use on occasionally for work. Last time I nearly through it across the room in anger and frustration and ended up resorting to pen and paper for the duration. I think it is a piece of overhyped, unreliable shite.

Give me a straight PC or mac any day.

But then I am a producer rather than a consumer.

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Hmmm scroll tablets - I've had mixed experience of them! I'm a bit of a browser game fiend, and it as far as gaming and tablets go, its just not good enough yet in my eyes! Even simply browser based games like Castle Empire lag a lot...guess I'll just be using my tablet for docs and work, until a gaming tablet comes along :)

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I used to be pretty hostile to these things. My conversion came last week in the pissing rain where I was trying to access Google Maps on my laptop as I needed to find a building I was visiting. There had to be a better way....

That's the kind of thing modern phones are good for.

I've resisted smart phones because the battery life is useless, but the iPad lasts significantly longer than my laptop - you really do appear to be able to use it for a day, rather than 3 hours, which is the best I get from the Lenovo.

Get the smart smartphone, not the poseur bling. At two and a half years old, mine's battery (link)still gives up to a week (standby and calls - substantial usage of other apps like maps/satnav reduces it).

It is the sheer bloody convenience of the thing that wins out over laptops and netbooks - easy to use while travelling, queueing...whatever. The engineering is also pretty neat - I have an iPod version 1 (really old thing) and the charger still fits and charges (slowly) the ipad. That consistency suggests that the ipad will still be in use in 5 years time, unlike all of the other crap out there.

Yep. Great for times when you don't have the space (or the power supply) for a laptop, but want a bigger screen than a phone. I got a pocket-puter for that kind of thing a while back, but if equivalent ipad-sized tablets had existed at the time I'd've sacrificed the pocket size for the bigger screen.

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That's the kind of thing modern phones are good for.

Get the smart smartphone, not the poseur bling. At two and a half years old, mine's battery (link)still gives up to a week (standby and calls - substantial usage of other apps like maps/satnav reduces it).

Yep. Great for times when you don't have the space (or the power supply) for a laptop, but want a bigger screen than a phone. I got a pocket-puter for that kind of thing a while back, but if equivalent ipad-sized tablets had existed at the time I'd've sacrificed the pocket size for the bigger screen.

I've been looking at the Nokia C3-00 the E71 is a bit expensive,I won't out of principle pay that much for a phone that may break after only a year.

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