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On Sunday Morning Live (don't normally watch it, but the presenter is quite fruity)...

The debate is about should we have parenting classes for all. One of the panel claimed: house prices are so high that for most families, both parents need to work. And therefore we have less time for good parenting.

Found that interesting, although it's maybe better for the Mumsnet message board (I'm not a member though).

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On Sunday Morning Live (don't normally watch it, but the presenter is quite fruity)...

The debate is about should we have parenting classes for all. One of the panel claimed: house prices are so high that for most families, both parents need to work. And therefore we have less time for good parenting.

Found that interesting, although it's maybe better for the Mumsnet message board (I'm not a member though).

Just occasionally someone airs a bit of common sense I bet they didn't dwell on that point though and swiftly moved on.

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Just occasionally someone airs a bit of common sense I bet they didn't dwell on that point though and swiftly moved on.

No, they didn't, and he just raised the point again via "one parent ought to be able to stay at home", and this was received with "that's a debate for another day".

Bloody BBC paying lip service to the debates without actually following up the points raised...

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One of the panel claimed: house prices are so high that for most families, both parents need to work. And therefore we have less time for good parenting.

that is a bit "chicken and egg" in my book. Both parents working was one of the factors that fuelled HPI as some of it (after childcare) helped inflated asking prices to be asked and 'afforded' via mortgages.

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that is a bit "chicken and egg" in my book. Both parents working was one of the factors that fuelled HPI as some of it (after childcare) helped inflated asking prices to be asked and 'afforded' via mortgages.

Women used to be trapped in the home and now they're trapped in the workplace <_<

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On Sunday Morning Live (don't normally watch it, but the presenter is quite fruity)...

The debate is about should we have parenting classes for all. One of the panel claimed: house prices are so high that for most families, both parents need to work. And therefore we have less time for good parenting.

Found that interesting, although it's maybe better for the Mumsnet message board (I'm not a member though).

You can have two parents working....they are both good parents.

You can have no parents working....they are both bad parents.

But the best way is to have both parents having quality work that brings with it quality parenting time living in a quality home they can afford. ;)

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that is a bit "chicken and egg" in my book. Both parents working was one of the factors that fuelled HPI as some of it (after childcare) helped inflated asking prices to be asked and 'afforded' via mortgages.

True, our society has taken a massive retrograde step in this regard. This is one of most saddening effects of rampant HPI.

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True, our society has taken a massive retrograde step in this regard. This is one of most saddening effects of rampant HPI.

Everyone is richer, but also so much poorer. A rat race.

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On Sunday Morning Live (don't normally watch it, but the presenter is quite fruity)...

The debate is about should we have parenting classes for all. One of the panel claimed: house prices are so high that for most families, both parents need to work. And therefore we have less time for good parenting.

Found that interesting, although it's maybe better for the Mumsnet message board (I'm not a member though).

Why can't the children work?

http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=167426

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Everyone is richer, but also so much poorer. A rat race.

Not everyone is poorer. Here's why the state wants women to work:

Women who work at home looking after kids perform a hugely important job. It's also hard work when they are young. The state doesn't care about either of these things. Women looking after the kids adds +zero+ value from the government perspective because it's not a salaried wage. It therefore cannot be taxed.

If your wife goes out to earn 25K and child care costs you 20K the dirty state can get it's hands on both of those salaries. They can then use this to build an ever bigger state which means bigger departments which means more wages for managers and ministers. And bigger pensions.

Meanwhile the man and wife working all hours and never seeing their kids are no better off. The state also doesn't care about this.

Let's dismantle this massive state apparatus ASAP.

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Not everyone is poorer. Here's why the state wants women to work:

Women who work at home looking after kids perform a hugely important job. It's also hard work when they are young. The state doesn't care about either of these things. Women looking after the kids adds +zero+ value from the government perspective because it's not a salaried wage. It therefore cannot be taxed.

If your wife goes out to earn 25K and child care costs you 20K the dirty state can get it's hands on both of those salaries. They can then use this to build an ever bigger state which means bigger departments which means more wages for managers and ministers. And bigger pensions.

Meanwhile the man and wife working all hours and never seeing their kids are no better off. The state also doesn't care about this.

Let's dismantle this massive state apparatus ASAP.

But if your wife goes out to work then she takes a job that an unemployed man with a family and a wife who does not work could do. Thus the whole of the unemployed mans family relies on the state to pay them . Which comes from taxes.

The situation which has been created is thus:-

Both parents working they survive.

One parent working the other does not they cannot survive .

Neither works they survive.

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But if your wife goes out to work then she takes a job that an unemployed man with a family and a wife who does not work could do. Thus the whole of the unemployed mans family relies on the state to pay them . Which comes from taxes.

The situation which has been created is thus:-

Both parents working they survive.

One parent working the other does not they cannot survive .

Neither works they survive.

i'll hand in my notice i the morning.:(

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Everyone is richer, but also so much poorer. A rat race.

Land ownership laws ensure that, over time, all wealth ends up in the hands of land owners (or other rent-seeking resource 'owners').

Sending women out to work pushed-up house prices, and enriched landowners.

Any increase in productivity has been and will be stolen in exactly the same way.

Whilst you may not believe this, or choose to ignore it, you can be absolutely sure that significant landowners and the government are well aware of the economics of land.

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But if your wife goes out to work then she takes a job that an unemployed man with a family and a wife who does not work could do.

Nope. He or she gets a newly created public sector non-job created by the socialists.

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Nope. He or she gets a newly created public sector non-job created by the socialists.

Who ?

The second earner or the unemployed ?

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True, our society has taken a massive retrograde step in this regard. This is one of most saddening effects of rampant HPI.

I don't think the Jeremy Kyle generation have jobs to stop them from caring for their kids.

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People I know one is a part-time qualified good teacher the other is a part-time good qualified doctor...they have more than two kids between them......they share the work and the children...seems to work very well for all. ;)

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People I know one is a part-time qualified good teacher the other is a part-time good qualified doctor...they have more than two kids between them......they share the work and the children...seems to work very well for all. ;)

How much is their house?

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that is a bit "chicken and egg" in my book. Both parents working was one of the factors that fuelled HPI as some of it (after childcare) helped inflated asking prices to be asked and 'afforded' via mortgages.

I don't think I agree with that. The number of women who've joined the labour force in the last 10 years [recall that prices were entirely sensible in 2001] is piffling. Lots of women were working 20 years ago even.

The real shock that occured in the first few years of the 21st century was not households earning based on two salaries but rather lenders lending based on two salaries.

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