Ill_handle_it Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 "It's like you took a bottle of ink and you threw it at a wall. Smash! And all that ink spread. And in the middle, it's dense, isn't it? And as it gets out on the edge, the little droplets get finer and finer and make more complicated patterns, see? So in the same way, there was a big bang at the beginning of things and it spread. And you and I, sitting here in this room, as complicated human beings, are way, way out on the fringe of that bang. We are the complicated little patterns on the end of it. Very interesting. But so we define ourselves as being only that. If you think that you are only inside your skin, you define yourself as one very complicated little curlique, way out on the edge of that explosion. Way out in space, and way out in time. Billions of years ago, you were a big bang, but now you're a complicated human being. And then we cut ourselves off, and don't feel that we're still the big bang. But you are. Depends how you define yourself. You are actually--if this is the way things started, if there was a big bang in the beginning-- you're not something that's a result of the big bang. You're not something that is a sort of puppet on the end of the process. You are still the process. You are the big bang, the original force of the universe, coming on as whoever you are. When I meet you, I see not just what you define yourself as--Mr so-and- so, Ms so-and-so, Mrs so-and-so--I see every one of you as the primordial energy of the universe coming on at me in this particular way. I know I'm that, too. But we've learned to define ourselves as separate from it. " — Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendy Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 i still prefer the time immemorial theory of multiple big bangs. the next one happens when our 'universe' crashes into it's neighbour. rinse and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronyx Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Billions of years ago, you were a big bang, but now you're a complicated human being. And then we cut ourselves off, and don't feel that we're still the big bang. But you are. Depends how you define yourself. You are actually--if this is the way things started, if there was a big bang in the beginning-- you're not something that's a result of the big bang. You're not something that is a sort of puppet on the end of the process. You are still the process. You are the big bang, the original force of the universe, coming on as whoever you are. When I meet you, I see not just what you define yourself as--Mr so-and- so, Ms so-and-so, Mrs so-and-so--I see every one of you as the primordial energy of the universe coming on at me in this particular way. I know I'm that, too. But we've learned to define ourselves as separate from it. " — Alan Watts Very thought provoking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendy Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 What about the other dimensions? Without it you cant have quantum physics and near death/after life experiences wouldnt exist. yeah they're all still there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezerinno Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 It is all an illusion; once you realise this your suffering will end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossybabe Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 It is all an illusion; once you realise this your suffering will end. But I'm not delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 an ink splash is so 2 dimensional....thats where his thought process is flawed. You need to think 3D plus the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ill_handle_it Posted August 7, 2011 Author Share Posted August 7, 2011 an ink splash is so 2 dimensional....thats where his thought process is flawed. You need to think 3D plus the time. I'm sure he's just using the ink as an analogy - if you're not familiar with his work there's plenty to be found on You Tube & various torrents. http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/15426681/alan+watts?tab=summary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I see dead people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipbuilder Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 "It's like you took a bottle of ink and you threw it at a wall. Smash! And all that ink spread. And in the middle, it's dense, isn't it? And as it gets out on the edge, the little droplets get finer and finer and make more complicated patterns, see? So in the same way, there was a big bang at the beginning of things and it spread. And you and I, sitting here in this room, as complicated human beings, are way, way out on the fringe of that bang. We are the complicated little patterns on the end of it. Very interesting. But so we define ourselves as being only that. If you think that you are only inside your skin, you define yourself as one very complicated little curlique, way out on the edge of that explosion. Way out in space, and way out in time. Billions of years ago, you were a big bang, but now you're a complicated human being. And then we cut ourselves off, and don't feel that we're still the big bang. But you are. Depends how you define yourself. You are actually--if this is the way things started, if there was a big bang in the beginning-- you're not something that's a result of the big bang. You're not something that is a sort of puppet on the end of the process. You are still the process. You are the big bang, the original force of the universe, coming on as whoever you are. When I meet you, I see not just what you define yourself as--Mr so-and- so, Ms so-and-so, Mrs so-and-so--I see every one of you as the primordial energy of the universe coming on at me in this particular way. I know I'm that, too. But we've learned to define ourselves as separate from it. " — Alan Watts I guess this is another way of expressing the 'we are all connected as one' theme that's common throughout science, religion, environmentalism and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Masked Tulip Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 But where do dreams come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetong Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Take this to it's logical conclusion and nothing matters so morality goes out of the window and anarchy or should I say entropy will prevail as it will anyway. May be that's what the illuminati realised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozen_out Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Take this to it's logical conclusion and nothing matters so morality goes out of the window and anarchy or should I say entropy will prevail as it will anyway. May be that's what the illuminati realised Take this to it's logical conclusion and you'll see that free will is an illusion. At the speed of light time stops, so for a photon it's simultaneously the beginning and end of the universe and everything inbetween. Time, as we experience it, is an illusion. Everything that ever did or will happen is happening right *now*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Woods? Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 I like the idea of being a "curlicue". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 But where do dreams come from? and, more importantly, where do they go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I guess this is another way of expressing the 'we are all connected as one' theme that's common throughout science, religion, environmentalism and so on. Yes. And your version is shorter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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