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These indexes always seem pretty damn arbitrary to me once you get outside of the obvious extremes such as quality of life in Iraq vs. Sweden. The education rating for Canada and the UK is a good example - I've seen both countries up close and, really, there's not that much difference and certainly nothing that would allow you to say that one was categorically better than the other.

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For which generation? The boomers in massive houses wondering what all the fuss is about or all the under 35s crammed 3 to a new build 2 bed flat they'll never be able to own surround by druggies and chavs on benefits?

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big difference between uk and canada schooling your joking right?

These indexes always seem pretty damn arbitrary to me once you get outside of the obvious extremes such as quality of life in Iraq vs. Sweden. The education rating for Canada and the UK is a good example - I've seen both countries up close and, really, there's not that much difference and certainly nothing that would allow you to say that one was categorically better than the other.

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Although the UK is on the slide, it's still one of the best places to live in the world by a whole load of differnent measures.

Does that "whole load of measures" cover the tolerance of obesity index, smack price to benefit ratio, tax burden on millionaire lottery winners, or what?

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I used to live in Tokyo, which was still in Japan at the time, I believe.

In three years I never saw a dog turd, I could have a pee at any subway station anywhere in that whole metropolis (in pristine conditions) for free, never saw a car parked in my street, had my rubbish collected three times a week (different stuff/ different days) and got a couple of yen back every time I returned a beer bottle to the shop.

Now I live in Brighton, step over dog sh1t daily, get charged for a p1ss in our (and any other) dirty, poorly run railway station, can't step off my pavement 'cause there isn't even enogh room between the parked vehicles, sometimes get my rubbish collected (but seldom know on what day), see overflowing bins so oftren I've ceased to notice and empty booze bottles and tins are just left wherever the happy partygoer feels like it.

Next week it is the (ironically named) Pride event here, so ankle deep extra rubbish (and even a fair smattering of solid human waste) to be found on the run through the park too, if up to last years amazing standard can be maintained.

Imagine my relief on inspecting the above chart and seeing I've made a good move here to the UK and stepped way up the environment rankings .

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big difference between uk and canada schooling your joking right?

There's no huge difference that I can spot. My sprog is learning broadly the same stuff here (albeit one year later as they start them later) in similar buildings with similar teachers and at more or less the same rate as he was in the UK. There's some things I can point to as being a bit better, some a bit worse, but, overall, I don't think I can say one is definitively better than the other and the similarities vastly outweigh the differences.

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Hmm the country I'm currently living in isn't even on the list. That makes it kind of hard to know if I've gone down from #133 or not.

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Does that "whole load of measures" cover the tolerance of obesity index, smack price to benefit ratio, tax burden on millionaire lottery winners, or what?

No, it covers (reasonable) public health care, childrens education, law enforcement and a host of other services, that admittedly we are currently struggling to pay for. Of course we need to make the decision to either pay for them properly or have less of them.

I don't run the risk of starving to death on a daily basis, live in a shanty town with open sewers and shared sanitary facilities. I don't run the risk of being arrested and tortured for my political beliefs and I don't have to spend backbreaking days working in fields without a break. The landscape I live in is lagely free from pollution.

Probably a good 70% of the worlds population would willingly exchange their citizenship for a UK one.

This doesn't mean of course that we shouldn't strive to make our system better. But sometimes we need to look at what we've got and realise that we have a good life compared with others. I suppose that if you are not well travelled then it is difficult to imagine the incredible poverty that some people live in.

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I don't run the risk of starving to death on a daily basis, live in a shanty town with open sewers and shared sanitary facilities. I don't run the risk of being arrested and tortured for my political beliefs and I don't have to spend backbreaking days working in fields without a break. The landscape I live in is lagely free from pollution.

As an advanced western economy the Uk should aspire to a bit more than that.

Probably got the worst quality of life of any western European country.

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No, it covers (reasonable) public health care, childrens education, law enforcement and a host of other services, that admittedly we are currently struggling to pay for. Of course we need to make the decision to either pay for them properly or have less of them.

I don't run the risk of starving to death on a daily basis, live in a shanty town with open sewers and shared sanitary facilities. I don't run the risk of being arrested and tortured for my political beliefs and I don't have to spend backbreaking days working in fields without a break. The landscape I live in is lagely free from pollution.

Probably a good 70% of the worlds population would willingly exchange their citizenship for a UK one.

This doesn't mean of course that we shouldn't strive to make our system better. But sometimes we need to look at what we've got and realise that we have a good life compared with others. I suppose that if you are not well travelled then it is difficult to imagine the incredible poverty that some people live in.

You are wasting your breath on the blindingly obvious. Of course the UK is better than some african dictatorship, but is says a lot that you have to use such a low comparison to begin with.

Compare the UK to other western/north-european countries, and then lets see if you still think the UK is ok.

Why isn't the UK as good as Sweden, Norway or even Germany?

That's the question we should be asking (rather than comparing the UK to Zimbabwe...).

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Probably got the worst quality of life of any western European country.

Exactly (and I'm speaking from experience having lived in several western European countries already, and I'm currently in one which is far better than the UK, too).

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You are wasting your breath on the blindingly obvious. Of course the UK is better than some african dictatorship, but is says a lot that you have to use such a low comparison to begin with.

Compare the UK to other western/north-european countries, and then lets see if you still think the UK is ok.

Why isn't the UK as good as Sweden, Norway or even Germany?

That's the question we should be asking (rather than comparing the UK to Zimbabwe...).

It seems the British way. Bend over and take it. Musn't grumble.

Crate Britain has the smallest housing in Europe. "but it's a crowded island" cräp doesn't cut it as Denmark has the most spacious housing.

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So much for "If you don't pay the banksters' debts for them, the whole country will go to hell" argument. Doesn't seem to have done Iceland much harm outside of a short term hit immediately following the start of the global financial crisis.

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Might be seen already.. but came across the Quality of life measure link..

http://nationranking...3/2011-qli2.png

Great to See how Iceland Recovered !!

Might be good idea to shift to top 5 :)

btw, how come France in top 15 !!

Cos the rich business owners are forced to share the wealth of the country more equally (they are also cleverer at getting hold of the EU farm payments)

Otherwise the workers strike & cut their Managers/Directors dicks off and hang them up in smokey warehouses

Le **** sportif - Lidl Chorizos on special offer

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No, it covers (reasonable) public health care, childrens education, law enforcement and a host of other services, that admittedly we are currently struggling to pay for. Of course we need to make the decision to either pay for them properly or have less of them.

I don't run the risk of starving to death on a daily basis, live in a shanty town with open sewers and shared sanitary facilities. I don't run the risk of being arrested and tortured for my political beliefs and I don't have to spend backbreaking days working in fields without a break. The landscape I live in is lagely free from pollution.

Probably a good 70% of the worlds population would willingly exchange their citizenship for a UK one.

This doesn't mean of course that we shouldn't strive to make our system better. But sometimes we need to look at what we've got and realise that we have a good life compared with others. I suppose that if you are not well travelled then it is difficult to imagine the incredible poverty that some people live in.

When you mention the royal 'WE' what class would you class yourself as and what wage bracket?

Britain has some of the worst poverty areas in europe but you never read it in your paper cos the UK stops at Watford as far as the main, overpaid, journalists are concerned

People freezing to death cos of no gas/electricity is now hidden from the public sight by the meters the Govt insisted the poor get installed (to hide the fact so many were being cut off it became a National scandal for liebour)

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Although the UK is on the slide, it's still one of the best places to live in the world by a whole load of differnent measures.

Yes, the UK is not a bad place to live, it is a very nice place to live in certain areas but only if you can afford to live in those areas.....the national health service in Spain is showing it is better than the UK. Spain is 8 the UK is 18...why is that then? ;)

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The triumph of socialism - all the nicest places in the world have the welfare state and decent funded public services.

Just got to stop the righties trying to erode what makes our quality of life so good :)

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Are my eyes playing me up or can I not see South Africa in that list?

Slightly better than Libya! How old is this list?

If you have money to isolate you from the harsh realities of life that the general populous endure, then the quality of life in South Africa is great.

… but the clock is ticking - another essential is a passport that will allow you to escape when this place also goes the full-mugabe

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The UK is a dump when it comes to litter, tired looking buildings, and godawful extentions on peoples housing.

Other than that its OK (given that most the other top 20 are northern europe and have a similarly crappy climate)

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