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Max lays it out to the presenter. He's met with some hostility for his suggestion, then stunned silence.

He tries to explain bank oligopoly, the debt spiral. ie. how the debt interest payments are larger than predicted growth rates.

From 1 Hr 38 mins in.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b012krdn

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Having just listened to Max's segment I urge all HPCers to do likewise, if only for the icily polite attempt at summing up by the interviewer at the end. Comedy gold.

Max was suitably restrained here, sometimes on his own show he does get a little OTT, which is OK when preaching to the converted but would alienate the "norms".

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Having just listened to Max's segment I urge all HPCers to do likewise, if only for the icily polite attempt at summing up by the interviewer at the end. Comedy gold.

Max was suitably restrained here, sometimes on his own show he does get a little OTT, which is OK when preaching to the converted but would alienate the "norms".

Pretty tame fare for the Kaiser Report viewer but this BBC interview is well worth the listen just for the shock-induced dead air. Derbyshire's beeboid circuits must've blown.

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No surprise at the stunned silenced, most of the idiots in charge think they can control this, they are selling they can control it, therefore it's too shocking for people to contemplate they've been lied to and in fact they can't control the situation and the collapse is inevitable.

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No surprise at the stunned silenced, most of the idiots in charge think they can control this, they are selling they can control it, therefore it's too shocking for people to contemplate they've been lied to and in fact they can't control the situation and the collapse is inevitable.

YES, HYPERINFLATIONARY COLLAPSE IS INEVITABLE

A CONSEQUENCE OF MONEY PRINTING - IT'S OBVIOUS NOW THAT A DECISION HAS BEEN MADE - INFLATION ALL THE WAY BABY

AND IT WILL BE FAR HIGHER THAN ANY OFFICIAL INFLATION MEASURE

INDEX-LINKED INVESTMENTS - GOOD JOKE!

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Can't see the programme. What was the title?

The play/pause controls are right at the very top (above the blue box).

If you have NoScript you may need to "temporarily allow all scripts".

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Sounds to me that Max was cut off!! That would explain her silence, probably listing to a voice in her ear saying "cutting this now before he goes to far"...

Can't have someone predicting bank runs live on the radio...

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Ludwig von Mises describes the endgame brought on by reckless expansion of credit: "There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit (debt) expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit (debt) expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved."

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He sounded quite sedate compared to his shows on RT and press.tv, as for the bloody idiot conducting the interview...........well what do you expect it is the bbc after all - she'll be part of the SW London set with a rather large BTL portfolio no doubt.

Can't wait for the melt down, her reaction is similar to the conversations i have with mates in the pub, its normally after describing the mess we're in and how we got to this point, i try and paint a rather sh*t vision of the future (normally after a few pints), you know weimar-style hyperinflation, property crash, no job etc just to see the expression on their faces especially the ones who i know are borrowed up to the eye balls. But just like the woman in the interview with max most of them tell me "oh that will never happen".

Cheers

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Evening All.

I'm really just passing through because i was interested in another discussion and wanted to contribute to that one. But I've been having a browse around and have been quite surprised by some of the anti-BBC sentiment.

I don't want to have a row with anyone, but I took the time to listen to that excerpt, and find the comments about it here really quite strange.

For me, this is a classic case of seeing what you want to see in something to reinforce your prejudices. And of course, before someone makes the point, this might well apply to me too.

My perception of the BBC seems to be really quite different. Over the past 4 years, since the Northern Rock crisis in 2007, I've found the BBC to have been even-handed in the way they report the economic crisis and the house price problem. Sure, they talk to the Kirsty Allsopp types who are very old school but I've lost count of the number of interviews I've heard with people on the other side of the argument. BBC comedy shows are full of piss-takes about the banks and debt crisis. Why no acknowledgement of this?

Their remit is to try to walk that pretty impossible line between two viewpoints. Normally. they will try to get two guests to have the argument for them. But when they have just one guest, like in this interview I've just heard, the journalist has to provide the confrontation. Do people really believe that the presenter is expressing a personal view? Of course not! I've heard this presenter - Victoria Derbyshire - often take the view of Joe Public when talking to people defending the banks and the City.

Very early in the morning there's a financial programme on 5 Live whose presenter (Verity) is very scathing about high house prices. Listen to it - you'll be surprised. He has also presented prime time BBC TV programmes on house prices, which have been very fair in my view.

But I digress. I listened to the Victoria Derbyshire interview. First of all, I've heard the American guy on Rado 4 at least two or three times, saying similar things. Please don't pretend this was some terrible error by the Beeb, and that they'll never invite him again. That's rubbish, frankly. He is invited on to present a robust argument about the critical state of the economy, and the BBC should be given credit for having on such a mainstream show. Instead they are rubbished here for.... for what? I'm not sure. Just before the interview starts, they remind the listeners about a piece coming up after the current show, about the decline in house asking prices. In the terminology of this site, it sounds like a a bear's picnic!

Let's look at this much-remarked on "stunned silence" -- oh please. Sure, there is a pause, and then she says something like "OK, thank you for talking to us and telling us your views" and repeats that he predicted the debt calamity. You are presuming that she was so staggered by some unanswerable point that she was gaping in awe and horror, unable to speak.

Sheesh. Why make that fanciful assumption? Could it be the well-established BBC principle of letting the guest have the last word? Have you ever listened to TalkSport, where someone calls in to make a point and the presenter responds with a rant and then cuts off the caller? What would you be saying if the BBC presenters did that as a matter of course.

If you've ever seen any of the live streaming video of 5 Live shows you'll know that half the time, the presenter is listening to the producer in the headphones, or waving at something through the glass or gesticulating to the travel reporter to tell them they are on in a minute. It sounds to me like Darbyshire's attention was elsewhere when Max suddenly finished his feisty speech. He made a strong final comment and she paused - either to let it sink in, or because she was elsewhere. If you've listened to her as long as I have (I worked at home for 6 years until last year), you'll know that she does this all the time, whether she's talking to the Prime Minister or a convicted murderer on Death Row or some poor git who's just been made redundant from Kirklees Council. She is too professional to be left gurning in silent astonishment. To be honest, it wasn't actually THAT much of a show-stopping remark from Max.

But no, if you're a Beeb sceptic, this is the humbling of an interviewer, reduced to speechlessness by some epoch-defining tirade.

Dream on, lads.

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One only has to look at the weekday morning lineup of property porn on BBC1 to see where they are trying to slant the market.

Whilst there may be a little more even handedness in news reporting there is still a big influence at work in influencing the sentiment!!

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Evening All.

I'm really just passing through because i was interested in another discussion and wanted to contribute to that one. But I've been having a browse around and have been quite surprised by some of the anti-BBC sentiment.

I don't want to have a row with anyone, but I took the time to listen to that excerpt, and find the comments about it here really quite strange.

For me, this is a classic case of seeing what you want to see in something to reinforce your prejudices. And of course, before someone makes the point, this might well apply to me too.

My perception of the BBC seems to be really quite different. Over the past 4 years, since the Northern Rock crisis in 2007, I've found the BBC to have been even-handed in the way they report the economic crisis and the house price problem. Sure, they talk to the Kirsty Allsopp types who are very old school but I've lost count of the number of interviews I've heard with people on the other side of the argument. BBC comedy shows are full of piss-takes about the banks and debt crisis. Why no acknowledgement of this?

Their remit is to try to walk that pretty impossible line between two viewpoints. Normally. they will try to get two guests to have the argument for them. But when they have just one guest, like in this interview I've just heard, the journalist has to provide the confrontation. Do people really believe that the presenter is expressing a personal view? Of course not! I've heard this presenter - Victoria Derbyshire - often take the view of Joe Public when talking to people defending the banks and the City.

Very early in the morning there's a financial programme on 5 Live whose presenter (Verity) is very scathing about high house prices. Listen to it - you'll be surprised. He has also presented prime time BBC TV programmes on house prices, which have been very fair in my view.

But I digress. I listened to the Victoria Derbyshire interview. First of all, I've heard the American guy on Rado 4 at least two or three times, saying similar things. Please don't pretend this was some terrible error by the Beeb, and that they'll never invite him again. That's rubbish, frankly. He is invited on to present a robust argument about the critical state of the economy, and the BBC should be given credit for having on such a mainstream show. Instead they are rubbished here for.... for what? I'm not sure. Just before the interview starts, they remind the listeners about a piece coming up after the current show, about the decline in house asking prices. In the terminology of this site, it sounds like a a bear's picnic!

Let's look at this much-remarked on "stunned silence" -- oh please. Sure, there is a pause, and then she says something like "OK, thank you for talking to us and telling us your views" and repeats that he predicted the debt calamity. You are presuming that she was so staggered by some unanswerable point that she was gaping in awe and horror, unable to speak.

Sheesh. Why make that fanciful assumption? Could it be the well-established BBC principle of letting the guest have the last word? Have you ever listened to TalkSport, where someone calls in to make a point and the presenter responds with a rant and then cuts off the caller? What would you be saying if the BBC presenters did that as a matter of course.

If you've ever seen any of the live streaming video of 5 Live shows you'll know that half the time, the presenter is listening to the producer in the headphones, or waving at something through the glass or gesticulating to the travel reporter to tell them they are on in a minute. It sounds to me like Darbyshire's attention was elsewhere when Max suddenly finished his feisty speech. He made a strong final comment and she paused - either to let it sink in, or because she was elsewhere. If you've listened to her as long as I have (I worked at home for 6 years until last year), you'll know that she does this all the time, whether she's talking to the Prime Minister or a convicted murderer on Death Row or some poor git who's just been made redundant from Kirklees Council. She is too professional to be left gurning in silent astonishment. To be honest, it wasn't actually THAT much of a show-stopping remark from Max.

But no, if you're a Beeb sceptic, this is the humbling of an interviewer, reduced to speechlessness by some epoch-defining tirade.

Dream on, lads.

Hi "Chap".

The BBC, news and current affairs reportage, make my ******ing skin crawl.

You sound like you might have some part in it. So i thought you should know that.

Be sure to "pass through again".

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Hi "Chap".

The BBC, news and current affairs reportage, make my ******ing skin crawl.

You sound like you might have some part in it. So i thought you should know that.

Be sure to "pass through again".

Ah.

So if I have the nerve to express a contrarian view I must be.... what?

A BBC double agent?

As I said, I don't want to have a row. I just think there is another voice out there beyond what seems to be a weird groupthink on here. Far from being an insurgent, I could be your rescuer.

:D

(Nope- not a BBC dupe. Just someone who's grown up with them, and - despite some reservations - has a generally good opinion of them compared with other sources of news.)

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Evening All.

I'm really just passing through because i was interested in another discussion and wanted to contribute to that one. But I've been having a browse around and have been quite surprised by some of the anti-BBC sentiment.

I don't want to have a row with anyone, but I took the time to listen to that excerpt, and find the comments about it here really quite strange.

For me, this is a classic case of seeing what you want to see in something to reinforce your prejudices. And of course, before someone makes the point, this might well apply to me too.

My perception of the BBC seems to be really quite different. Over the past 4 years, since the Northern Rock crisis in 2007, I've found the BBC to have been even-handed in the way they report the economic crisis and the house price problem. Sure, they talk to the Kirsty Allsopp types who are very old school but I've lost count of the number of interviews I've heard with people on the other side of the argument. BBC comedy shows are full of piss-takes about the banks and debt crisis. Why no acknowledgement of this?

Their remit is to try to walk that pretty impossible line between two viewpoints. Normally. they will try to get two guests to have the argument for them. But when they have just one guest, like in this interview I've just heard, the journalist has to provide the confrontation. Do people really believe that the presenter is expressing a personal view? Of course not! I've heard this presenter - Victoria Derbyshire - often take the view of Joe Public when talking to people defending the banks and the City.

Very early in the morning there's a financial programme on 5 Live whose presenter (Verity) is very scathing about high house prices. Listen to it - you'll be surprised. He has also presented prime time BBC TV programmes on house prices, which have been very fair in my view.

But I digress. I listened to the Victoria Derbyshire interview. First of all, I've heard the American guy on Rado 4 at least two or three times, saying similar things. Please don't pretend this was some terrible error by the Beeb, and that they'll never invite him again. That's rubbish, frankly. He is invited on to present a robust argument about the critical state of the economy, and the BBC should be given credit for having on such a mainstream show. Instead they are rubbished here for.... for what? I'm not sure. Just before the interview starts, they remind the listeners about a piece coming up after the current show, about the decline in house asking prices. In the terminology of this site, it sounds like a a bear's picnic!

Let's look at this much-remarked on "stunned silence" -- oh please. Sure, there is a pause, and then she says something like "OK, thank you for talking to us and telling us your views" and repeats that he predicted the debt calamity. You are presuming that she was so staggered by some unanswerable point that she was gaping in awe and horror, unable to speak.

Sheesh. Why make that fanciful assumption? Could it be the well-established BBC principle of letting the guest have the last word? Have you ever listened to TalkSport, where someone calls in to make a point and the presenter responds with a rant and then cuts off the caller? What would you be saying if the BBC presenters did that as a matter of course.

If you've ever seen any of the live streaming video of 5 Live shows you'll know that half the time, the presenter is listening to the producer in the headphones, or waving at something through the glass or gesticulating to the travel reporter to tell them they are on in a minute. It sounds to me like Darbyshire's attention was elsewhere when Max suddenly finished his feisty speech. He made a strong final comment and she paused - either to let it sink in, or because she was elsewhere. If you've listened to her as long as I have (I worked at home for 6 years until last year), you'll know that she does this all the time, whether she's talking to the Prime Minister or a convicted murderer on Death Row or some poor git who's just been made redundant from Kirklees Council. She is too professional to be left gurning in silent astonishment. To be honest, it wasn't actually THAT much of a show-stopping remark from Max.

But no, if you're a Beeb sceptic, this is the humbling of an interviewer, reduced to speechlessness by some epoch-defining tirade.

Dream on, lads.

You are Mark Thompson and I claim my five pounds.

The prissy windbag behind the microphone got lost for words momentarily and then wrapped up the interview in less than confident fashion. We laughed.

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Evening All.

I'm really just passing through because i was interested in another discussion and wanted to contribute to that one. But I've been having a browse around and have been quite surprised by some of the anti-BBC sentiment.

edit.

But no, if you're a Beeb sceptic, this is the humbling of an interviewer, reduced to speechlessness by some epoch-defining tirade.

Dream on, lads.

15 years of license funded property porn being pumped into our living rooms, encouraging the credit fuelled housing bubble, tend to change a persons view of the BBC.

Edited by worst time buyer

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