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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/8647799/Two-nations-supermarket-figures-show.html

Waitrose at the top end and Aldi and Lidl at the bottom end of the market have thrived over the last few months, market share figures from Kantar Worldpanel, the research company.

Aldi and Lidl again posted strong double digit growth of 20.2 per cent and 15.6 per cent respectively, in the 12 weeks to July 10.

Waitrose was the next big winner with growth of 9 per cent and increasing its share from 4.1 per cent a year ago to 4.3 per cent.

The rest of the supermarkets, with the exception of Morrisons, appear to have struggled to make much progress.

“The increasing polarisation of the grocery market looks set to stay as consumers turn to the discounters to cut their budgets while others continue to spend in Waitrose,” says Kantar Worldpanel director Martin Whittingham.

croople

Today 11:35 AM

the babyboomers generation with their half a million pound houses shop at waitrose, the following generations who cannot afford a pot to p*ss in have no choice but to shop at Lidl - how else will those later generations be able to afford to pay off the absurd national debt bequeathed by the babyboomers?

Interesting comment here, is croople on here?

According to this research the top end is doing well along with the bottom end.

Go recovery.

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Classic show of modern misconceptions. Someone doesn't know he's born ....

The level of luxury modern Lidl represents simply didn't exist before the 1980s!

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Aldi/Lidl should install discrete back entrances so everyone too embarrassed to shop there can come and go at leisure.

No disrespect to the top end...I prefer shopping at the bottom end via the front entrance. ;)

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Aldi/Lidl should install discrete back entrances so everyone too embarrassed to shop there can come and go at leisure.

...the wife and I always go dressed up like the Kray brothers so as not to attract attention.

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Waitrose is just a bloody good business that sells great food. I'd guess I could save 20 quid per week by going to Tesco, but then I don't have an iPhone contract, Sky, smoke, buy lottery tickets or any plastic Chinese tat. I expect more people to re-allocate their spending accordingly and for Waitrose to continue thriving.

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No disrespect to the top end...I prefer shopping at the bottom end via the front entrance. ;)

+1 I much prefer the simplicity (and lack of piped music) you get with Aldi and Lidl. Marching up and down the endless aisles of a Tesco Extra when all I am looking for is a few odds and ends is a complete waste of my time. The low prices and bizarre specials such as horse saddles and pressure washers are jus an added bonus.

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Waitrose is just a bloody good business that sells great food. I'd guess I could save 20 quid per week by going to Tesco, but then I don't have an iPhone contract, Sky, smoke, buy lottery tickets or any plastic Chinese tat. I expect more people to re-allocate their spending accordingly and for Waitrose to continue thriving.

I popped in Waitrose once and I am sure there were a couple of people in there I recognised from the TV. ;)

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I seem to be caught in the middle here. The stuff I was happy buying from the likes of Sains/Asda/Tesco now tastes of nothing, forcing me into the hands of Waitrose and M&S.

Fresh fruit, veg and meat are the issues, obviously branded canned stuff tastes the same from wherever it's bought.

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I seem to be caught in the middle here. The stuff I was happy buying from the likes of Sains/Asda/Tesco now tastes of nothing, forcing me into the hands of Waitrose and M&S.

Fresh fruit, veg and meat are the issues, obviously branded canned stuff tastes the same from wherever it's bought.

Get the Fruit & Veg from the farmers market....the little meat I do buy, I try to buy from the excellent family butcher that told me they know how well they are looked after and where all the animals came from that they sold. ;)

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Aldi/Lidl should install discrete back entrances so everyone too embarrassed to shop there can come and go at leisure.

You could always take your Waitrose bags along to Aldi/Lidl and use them there – rather like sitting on a train with the latest Dan Brown concealed inside a James Joyce book (or a porno magazine wrapped inside the Financial Times) …

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A friend of mine is a sports coach working with teenagers from a variety of backgrounds and was organizing the Tesco 'sports equipment for schools' appeal. When she asked the kids to remind their parents to shop at Tesco and collect the voucher, all the kids from the poorer schools said that their parents shopped at Sainsbury's (if there was a Waitrose in Aberdeen it would be really busy) and all the kids from the fancy private schools said their parents shopped at Lidl, Asda and Aldi. Almost noone shopped at middle of the road Tesco.

Other markets are becoming quite polarized. Look at cars, there are a lot more 'prestige' cars like BMWs, Merx and Audies and budget cars such as Skodas, Hyundais and Kias than a few years ago which causes the mainstream Fords and Vauxhalls to be squeezed in the middle.

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This is the thing people that can quote 'taste the difference' be it yummy mummys to people that simply do not trust processed food are skint. So you have 2 options.

1/ By the cheapest veg you can, aldi and lidl are awesome at this (not highest quality)

2/ Buy very small amounts of high grade goods from Waittrose. I hardly ever go to Waittrose but here is an example. Sweet chestnuts, these things were like conkers (maybe they were lol). The other supermarkets were selling big bags really cheap chestnuts but it was like chewing carpet, very slim not much nut.

The farmers market is okay i guess but round here it costs more than Waitrose but I admit I have not been for 2 years. Perhaps the price from source is far more competitive now. Its about time I did another scout.

Certainly ASDAs brands like ground coffee are closely matching leading band prices so the few things I do buy are off the list. I only go there for blackcurrant squash and soda water. Even the goats cheese has switched from strong to mild damn it!

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I popped in Waitrose once and I am sure there were a couple of people in there I recognised from the TV. ;)

:)

Food is still cheap in this country and represents a small proportion of incomes. I just find it funny that so many folks endeavour to spend 50p instead of £1.50 on a loaf of bread, but happily splash out on other highly discretionary items. Relatively speaking everything is so much more expensive than food it barely seems worth sweating the small stuff.

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Food is still cheap in this country and represents a small proportion of incomes. I just find it funny that so many folks endeavour to spend 50p instead of £1.50 on a loaf of bread, but happily splash out on other highly discretionary items. Relatively speaking everything is so much more expensive than food it barely seems worth sweating the small stuff.

I think the cost, even though it has risen, is being kept down by smaller packages and the replacement of foodstuffs with sawdust.

That last lot of Chicken I bought from Sains tasted like balsa wood and the Strawberries, although British which is usually a good sign, tasted like water.

I must confess though Waitrose doesn't always deliver. Ended up the other day buying Green Beans from there, the only ones on the shelf were the 'essentials' range which had no taste whatsoever.

Nothing like going out to get the ingredients for a meal and ending up with something that tastes like licking the pavement.

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The farmers market is okay i guess but round here it costs more than Waitrose but I admit I have not been for 2 years. Perhaps the price from source is far more competitive now. Its about time I did another scout.

Never mind the prices, the scheduling was obviously devised by people who haven't had to visit planet Earth.

http://www.tvfm.org.uk/markets/

Generally open for four hours, one day a month. Do ****** off. I opened an account with Farmer's Choice Free Range instead, and highly recommend them. The evening delivery service is what won it for me, without that it would be like all these other home delivery grocery services, useless for anyone with an actual job.

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I shop in both.

waitrose are not only about high prices. They have their bargain ranges too.

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The low prices and bizarre specials such as horse saddles and pressure washers are jus an added bonus.

:lol:

And surprisingly my local store employs a real shifty looking rastafarian, dressed in jeans for ......security. Nothing personal against this guy, its just that most run of the mill stores employ a bored looking uniform...

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Never mind the prices, the scheduling was obviously devised by people who haven't had to visit planet Earth.

http://www.tvfm.org.uk/markets/

Generally open for four hours, one day a month. Do ****** off. I opened an account with Farmer's Choice Free Range instead, and highly recommend them. The evening delivery service is what won it for me, without that it would be like all these other home delivery grocery services, useless for anyone with an actual job.

+1 on veg delivered from the local farmer.

If there's no evening delivery have them leave it outside your house/flat. Phone the people who do the delivery and arrange something suitable/secure, amazing what can be done by talking nicely with them. Or have it delivered to your work if you go to work by car.

A regular delivery of seasonal veg from the farm works out cheaper than a supermarket in my experience. If only because you cook what you get rather than running around buying more expensive out of season stuff.

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:)

Food is still cheap in this country and represents a small proportion of incomes. I just find it funny that so many folks endeavour to spend 50p instead of £1.50 on a loaf of bread, but happily splash out on other highly discretionary items. Relatively speaking everything is so much more expensive than food it barely seems worth sweating the small stuff.

I have recently found out that there is nothing better than baking your own bread, using some malted flour some seedy grain flour together with some wholemeal...in a normal oven you can easily fit enough for four large loafs, it must cost about 50p a loaf plus a bit for fuel....in the artisan shop it would easily cost £2 or more a loaf.

Food is cheap for some and expensive for others, it all depends what the families disposable income is after basic necessary living costs....also some do not think good healthy homemade food is a priority in their lives and are happy to eat processed, convenience microwave and fatty takeaway foods.... ;)

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No disrespect to the top end...I prefer shopping at the bottom end via the front entrance. ;)

Do you stick a quid in and unlock it first like - "Ye knights of olde"?

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I find I spend less in Waitrose than Tesco. Mainly because Tesco have a video games section ;-) but also the sheer size of the place and stuff they have on offer. Waitrose is more expensive - especially if buying wine there - you won't get your £5 nasty tasting stuff you get at tesco sadly. However, lets say you spend £50 per week at Lidl, but £70 at Waitrose. An extra £1k per year - for it you get service! Very little waiting at the til, the place is clean, the customers are actually pleasant - very few scrubbers and chavs at all, it just seems civilized basically. Also, you spend, what £5 - 10k per year just on rent/ mortgage, another few K on car insurance/ travel, a few K on bills certainly, there's council tax, other bills and expenses. Why not spend an extra comparitively small percent more on what is one of the most rewarding parts of your expenditure. I've shopped at literally all of the supermarkets - still do shop at Aldi, Lidl, Tesco, Waitrose and the Coop, but way prefer the 'posh' one - even if just getting a milk and bread - which to be fair is going to cost you about a couple of quid whereever you go.

If Waitrose is just round the corner, but Tesco Extra is 2 miles away, you probably spend the difference in petrol anyway.

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The local greengrocer in Failsworth will do you up a box of veg if you want.

Flipping heck!

That famers choice wants £15 a kg for rabbit.

If you're near Worcester I know someone who regular shoots them and will give them away!

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The local greengrocer in Failsworth will do you up a box of veg if you want.

Flipping heck!

That famers choice wants £15 a kg for rabbit.

If you're near Worcester I know someone who regular shoots them and will give them away!

Whole skinned rabbit less than a fiver in the butchers......they will cut it into portions if you desire....I understand many could not face the thought of eating rabbit, but can of chicken or other meats...you can get used to eating something different, but the old fashioned tasty meats like offal, kidneys, tongue, liver and the like will make a comeback into the human food chain...only when needs must. ;)

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