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Boston industrial estate explosion kills five men.

Five men have been killed and a sixth has been seriously injured in an explosion at an industrial estate in Lincolnshire.

Duty + Taxes along with VAT will provide an easy market to knock 'home brew' out cheap!!

Is this incident a consequence of the economy in general? People feeling they need to make a crust anyway they can and cutting corners, taking huge risks?

The area in question is populated with a significant number of Eastern Europeans who work the land in the good times!!

Maybe they are introducing skills to the UK which have been otherwise long forgotten!!

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Boston industrial estate explosion kills five men.

Duty + Taxes along with VAT will provide an easy market to knock 'home brew' out cheap!!

Is this incident a consequence of the economy in general? People feeling they need to make a crust anyway they can and cutting corners, taking huge risks?

The area in question is populated with a significant number of Eastern Europeans who work the land in the good times!!

Maybe they are introducing skills to the UK which have been otherwise long forgotten!!

I can see more of these accidents happening as income gets squeezed.

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The area in question is populated with a significant number of Eastern Europeans who work the land in the good times!!

Maybe they are introducing skills to the UK which have been otherwise long forgotten!!

Exactly, and what I found very interesting was that the report on Today explicitly mentioned that fact (for Listen Again-ers, the quote is during or just after the 0700 news). They broadcast a snippet of an interview with a farmer who saw the blast, who said (not quite verbatim, but near enough): 'There are lots of Polish and Latvians around here, and they're always coming round my farm trying to buy potatoes. Everyone knows that they're note eating them.'

If the ethnicity in question had been gipsies or Asians, do you think the BBC would have broadcast that?

The other thing I was struck by was the BBC's emphasis (stated several times in one report) that the illicit vodka which had been sold recently in Lincolnshire offies was 'not fit for human consumption' and 'very dangerous'. Distillery is a relatively simple industrial process - it's not rocket science. I do wonder if this represents an attempt by the Beeb's political paymasters to strangle the market for this stuff.

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The Government hates competition when it comes to 'duty' related items!!

That's why the correlation of enforcement spend to combat it bears no relation to the actual problems....

A while back they were linking illegal tobacco imports to gangsters and people traffickers!! Possibly true but a a blatant attempt to 'cleanse' the public taste for such items!!

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The area in question is populated with a significant number of Eastern Europeans who work the land in the good times!!

Maybe they are introducing skills to the UK which have been otherwise long forgotten!!

Here in Poland home made Alcohol is very common and some people even prefer it to the legal stuff and pay more. I'm going to try it myself, its not illegal unless you sell it. It is quite a fine craft, basically simple, but making good stuff requires a lot of experimentation.

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Here in Poland home made Alcohol is very common and some people even prefer it to the legal stuff and pay more. I'm going to try it myself, its not illegal unless you sell it. It is quite a fine craft, basically simple, but making good stuff requires a lot of experimentation.

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Be careful - where I am there are a few gaps between housing blocks where home made stills have blown up :blink:

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Champagne cider. Heard about it on this site. Fantastic. It's not like the crappy home made bitters and wines you get. It tastes like the real thing.

Yah. I thought that cider kits generally give you a champagne yeast anyway.

The apple tree is beginning to bear fruit, I can sense a trip to the local brewery for a crushing session.... mmmmm.

My ciders tend to taste very light and refreshing, with a mega drunkenness that hits quickly followed by a huge headache the next morning. mmmmm..

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Here in Poland home made Alcohol is very common and some people even prefer it to the legal stuff and pay more. I'm going to try it myself, its not illegal unless you sell it. It is quite a fine craft, basically simple, but making good stuff requires a lot of experimentation.

How do people know they are getting something made by responsible craftsmen just dodging duty and not industrial alcohol which could blind you?

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If the ethnicity in question had been gipsies or Asians, do you think the BBC would have broadcast that?

Asians are smart enough to not get caught...

My dad was a legend of the South west as he had a massive still operation which they kept hidden even when they were living 8 families to a house. He ran it with crazy Jack another Chinese guy, who sampled too much and went crazy because of it.

It was one of the things which made Chinese people uber respected in the SW :lol:

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How do people know they are getting something made by responsible craftsmen just dodging duty and not industrial alcohol which could blind you?

The burn test. Pour some into a spoon burn it and look at the colour of the flame and any residue. There is also the consumption test. Ask the bloke selling it to have a shot.

Around here some EE I do not know where from come round in a blue van selling vodka off the back. It is home brew Samogan. Initially when they started it was bad and made a number of people go blind.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1063828_deadly_fake_vodka_alert

They improved their reciepie shortly after that and do a roaring trade around these parts. So much so many of the pubs were buried by their activities as they'd hang around outside pubs selling massive 2 litre bottles of vodka in coke bottles for very little money

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Perhaps the government should publish safety guidelines on distilling, but I doubt it would want the competition! ;)

Ofc, if alcohol wasn't taxed so highly, there would be no need to DIY anyway.

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Obviously what is needed is more multi-culti integrationist health and safety czars, the message just isnt getting through.

Sad they died though, they come here and just dont bargain for the high cost of living. and lincs is probably at the cheaper end of the scale. Big govt taxation is purely to blame here.

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Interesting piece on Radio 4 today about how all the communities in Boston Lincolnshire are rubbing along famously!

Yes, I heard that.

Was waiting for the question: "Is this a result of irresponsible taxation?"

But it never came! R4 is veeery champagne (duty paid) socialist.

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Was waiting for the question: "Is this a result of irresponsible taxation?"

"The last government increased beer duty by 60%, but added only 25% to spirits" - Mike Benner, chief executive of CAMRA writing in Wetherspoon News July/August 2011.

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HMRC said forensic testing of the counterfeit alcohol, seized in March, showed it was found to contain chemicals often unsafe for public consumption.

In that case, why haven't we been hearing stories on the news every night about Eastern Europeans in Lincolnshire dropping dead from methanol poisoning?

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Edit: I also see you are specifically cherry picking the points. Not a Guardian reader are you, doc, per chance.

Quite the opposite, and that reductio ad absurdum relates to my earlier post. The BBC have been at pains to claim, multiple times in every single reporting of this story, that the illegal booze being consumed was unfit for human consumption. This stuff was clearly being produced on an industrial scale, hence the use of a unit on an estate. That implies that its consumption was also widespread, too. If the methanol hadn't been filtered out of it properly, you would expect there to have been a significant public health problem emerging in the region, on a scale that would attract MSM attention.

In short, I suspect that the preachy warnings about 'dangerous' and 'unfit for human consumption' moonshine are typical BBC and Guardian nanny state-ism, i.e. trying to scare their readers off contemplating buying a bottle of £3 potato vodka from Mr. Sodomofski from the boot of a Trabant in the car park of a pub in Sleaford.

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Perhaps the government should publish safety guidelines on distilling, but I doubt it would want the competition! ;)

Ofc, if alcohol wasn't taxed so highly, there would be no need to DIY anyway.

Scanning the 'Home Distillers Forum' I discovered that it's a compulsive hobby for many and these guys shell out serious money for a still.

Apropos safety, we don't know from the report that the explosion was caused uniquely by the distilling process.

By co-incidence, there is a section on the forum about avoiding detection by the revenue. It cites fires and accidents as a common way stills are discovered by chance.

I never realised it was so popular. It's certainly not just Latvians who are buying potatoes - another media slant?

' . . . bought a hundred pounds of yeast and some copper line

and everybody knew that he made moonshine '

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...a bottle of £3 potato vodka from Mr. Sodomofski from the boot of a Trabant in the car park of a pub in Sleaford...

If that isn't enough to put one off the booze one is doomed anyway.

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How do people know they are getting something made by responsible craftsmen just dodging duty and not industrial alcohol which could blind you?

You get it from people you know, an uncle in our case. Besides, industrial stuff is not made from Apples or peach which you can taste.

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