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So I was picking up my sister from one of her friends and one thing lead to another... and her friend came out with all this info on how much she's getting every month!! Two kids, one disabled, she's working just more than 17 hours a week, is divorced.

Income from job ~ £400 a month

Money from ex until kids are 16/18 (not sure): £450 a month

Working tax credits due to low pay & hours: £300 a month(!!)

DLA, child benefit (and possibly something else I can't remember): ~£600 a month

PLUS housing benefit

So disposable income of approx £1750 a month!!! That's more than I get lol!

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You expect her to get a full time job and let the disabled kid, and her other child to fend for themselves? How much would the alternative cost in terms of minders/carers?

Oh and WTC, heaven forbid that the poor should get a bail out!

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Oh and WTC, heaven forbid that the poor should get a bail out!

Well SHE is hardly poor with an income of 1750 a month after housing with no tax to pay. As she is rich compared to most, maybe she should be the one doing the bailing out.

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You expect her to get a full time job and let the disabled kid, and her other child to fend for themselves? How much would the alternative cost in terms of minders/carers?

Oh and WTC, heaven forbid that the poor should get a bail out!

If you include the housing benefit, she is getting the same as someone earning £45,000pa-ish

That isn't giving the poor a helping hand, that is raising them far above the level of the average worker.

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You expect her to get a full time job and let the disabled kid, and her other child to fend for themselves? How much would the alternative cost in terms of minders/carers?

Oh and WTC, heaven forbid that the poor should get a bail out!

She's not poor any more she's rich!!!! Go back to reading your Daily Mirror!!!

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She is getting a lot from her ex, so it is effectively more than one income paying towards her kids.

Sounds like she is working, and unsociable hours too, instead of sitting at home. Sopunds like the rate is the lowest legally possible - the national minimum wage.

On top that she is raising 2 kids, one disabled, single-handed.

Are you sure this is all tax-free?

Tax credits are available to a lot, probably most, of the population. It's how we all effectively subsidise employers who won't pay a decent living wage.

Perhaps you'd be happier if she had her disabled kid exterminated. It would save you money

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She is getting a lot from her ex, so it is effectively more than one income paying towards her kids.

Sounds like she is working, and unsociable hours too, instead of sitting at home. Sopunds like the rate is the lowest legally possible - the national minimum wage.

On top that she is raising 2 kids, one disabled, single-handed.

Are you sure this is all tax-free?

Tax credits are available to a lot, probably most, of the population. It's how we all effectively subsidise employers who won't pay a decent living wage.

Perhaps you'd be happier if she had her disabled kid exterminated. It would save you money

Mine and my partners joint income is about 35k, we both do 40hrs plus and we don't qualify for tax credits.

Over generous benefits effect this country's competativeness and if Daily Mirror readers like you had your way we'd have a £10 an hour minimum wage and 20% unemployemt!!

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Mine and my partners joint income is about 35k, we both do 40hrs plus and we don't qualify for tax credits.

Over generous benefits effect this country's competativeness and if Daily Mirror readers like you had your way we'd have a £10 an hour minimum wage and 20% unemployemt!!

Why is the UK full of angry illiterates?

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Why is the UK full of angry illiterates?

I blame the over generous benefits system that practically encourages people on benefits to breed whereas those who work cannot afford to take maternity leave and pay for childcare. Reminds me of Idiocracy.

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Good post ^^^

I'm not saying anything about the kids or anything - stop reading into it! Was just shocked to hear just HOW MUCH she was getting. So much for it being just a few cases, I think it's more widespread than some think.

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Mine and my partners joint income is about 35k, we both do 40hrs plus and we don't qualify for tax credits.

Over generous benefits effect this country's competativeness and if Daily Mirror readers like you had your way we'd have a £10 an hour minimum wage and 20% unemployemt!!

Amazing how many posters tell me what paper I read. And always get it wrong.

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Looking after her disabled kid on her own - surely deserving of some state support, especially if there is no immediate family to help. This is the price of civilization.

But the amounts are just extravagant and unnecessary. Of course any cuts are evil and will probably make her homeless or something.

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Why is the UK full of angry illiterates?

Its not. Its just full of self-righteous, sanctimonious, sententious, I'm holier-than-thou, smug morally superior people that think their beliefs, actions, or affiliations are of greater virtue than those of the average person.

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There is no incentive to work in this country any more and pay taxes. The elites have busted the system! :lol::lol::lol:

It does get on my nerves hearing all these stories about 'single mums' claiming all and sundry for their disabled children... usually something as benign as ADHD.

My family aren't entitled to 'tax credits'. We have one income as I had to give up my job to look after my child who could quite easily be classed as disabled (blue lighted into hospital on Monday, out of hospital today - more tests on Friday(after a year the specialists still don't know what's wrong and I've resorted to using spiritual healers, it's bad sh1t!)... how much does my family claim other than the child allowance we are soon to lose...

feck all! I hate this country (apart from the NHS and it's Dr's who have been fantastic).

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But have they?

The NHS have a lot of people who just follow the money, and like I see in IT as do others who run their own small software companies, many people are very good at sitting exams but try to get them to think for themselves on a new problem out of the box so to speak and you see them fail miserably.

The best example of this, is how seemingly clever logical people just switch off any critical thinking when in front of a PC and fail to deal with the simplest of errors but defer immediately to their IT guru!

I'm sure many know what I mean. :)

Well I hope it gets sorted soon and all things turn out good, I'm sure you have covered the basics like having a VitD test done for starters? Its seems to be one of those things that gets overlooked today considering how quickly new studies come out which are positive.

Dr's dont learn as much once they graduate unlike us IT lot who are constantly learning the new technologies.

We have one of the best neurologist in the country on the case - must have at least 30years in the field and last year he told us it was the worst case of epilepsy he'd seen in his career that wasn't actually epilepsy - our daughters had every test/scan under the sun EEGs, ECGs, bloods, ultrasounds etc etc no stone has been left unturned and yet they continue to draw blanks. We are pretty certain that the upcoming EEG/MRI will be no different from the last batch of tests, no further forward and with no diagnosis means no medication just recovery position+hope - have a bed there until the tests on Friday but what's the point when they don't do anything other than observe what we have all seen before. It's not all the time and up to now things have been improving almost to a point where months webt by where nothing big/scary happened until 3 weeks ago, last week and then on Monday night.

I know what you mean re. some dr's and also the management of the various departments who don't communicate with each other.

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That sounds serious and must be really difficult for you and the missus to cope with. The NHS is crap in parts but hopefully you have landed in one of the good bits.

It's hard and keeps us up at night with worry. We have recently landed (bought a house) in an area that has most of the bad NHS bits, it's just coincidental that when things happen we are visiting my parents 40miles away ;)

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You expect her to get a full time job and let the disabled kid, and her other child to fend for themselves? How much would the alternative cost in terms of minders/carers?

Oh and WTC, heaven forbid that the poor should get a bail out!

Snore.

This kind of injustice against tax paying workers has been pointed out on HPC for years.

Hack off back to your "Labour" party.

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