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Hong Kong police say they have arrested more than 200 people following demonstrations over rising property prices and proposed political changes.

Tens of thousands had rallied on Friday and police moved in to make arrests after some of the protesters refused to leave the central business district at dawn on Saturday.

Police used pepper spray to break up the protests.

A rally is held every year on 1 July, the day in 1997 Chinese rule returned.

A stand-off had lasted for several hours overnight.

The arrests were mainly for obstruction and illegal assembly. Some protesters scuffled with police officers as they were taken to police vehicles.

The police said in a statement: "To restore peace and social order, as well as to guarantee public safety and to let the normal traffic resume, police decided to act and arrest the protesters."

A total of 228 people were detained.

One of the main aims of the protest was to stop a government proposal to scrap by-elections to the legislature and fill the seats according to earlier results.

The protesters see the move as infringing democratic rights.

They are also angry at soaring property prices.

Organisers said 218,000 people had taken part on Friday, although police said it was only a quarter of that.

In 2003, mass protests forced the government to withdraw a controversial security bill.

The following year, chief executive Tung Chee-hwa stepped down.

Hong Kong reverted to Chinese sovereignty on 1 July 1997.

Some common sense prevails.

Don't hold your breath for similar here anytime soon though.

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I feel a slight hope at that, but still major despondence. Thanks for posting, though!

It's unbelievable to think of the vast number of people who would be better off with cheaper housing, yet the minority (must be!) who are VIs who get away with keeping it inflated to the detriment of us all for their own gains.

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The kicker is this:

HK has a vast amount of rent controlked council housing as well. about 45%-55% of the population live in council housing which as said is rent controlled.

Sure they did the right to buy thing like my uncle did however they are sold at commercial rates and you're not allowed to sell them for ages. But the government as a condition of selling land to other developers made the developers build more council flats.

Oh btw HK runs an inflationary policy, CPI has regularly touched 8-12% and they say they run an inflationary policy as well. Since banks love to pummel people with charges and interest rates are very low. Even with the Chinese habit of saving (even though HK has socialised health) it is hard to even stand still.

Due to the $ peg HK prices are going ape for food, energy and transport. My dad estimates the price of everything in a year has gone up at least 20% which means my bolt hole just in case isn't as nice as it was previously. I still have another two bolt holes though.

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It's time we did the same thing here.

Problem is our country is mainly made up of brain washed sheeple.

What will bring people out on to the streets?

So far, only having their "la la land" pensions threatened.

There really is no hope here.

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It's time we did the same thing here.

Problem is our country is mainly made up of brain washed sheeple.

Its a cultural difference tbh, Asians are bottle up their rage and discontent and release it in massive bloody revolutionary torrents. They can't vent online because of internet censorship. They can't vent in the press because of press censorship. They don't go to pubs, it is considered bad form in face terms to complain about things endlessly. Thus every so often it reaches a massive critical mass where the people burst and have a bloody revolution.

Westerners release it gradualy by venting on HPC, down the pub to their mates and some in friday night fights outside the pub. Thus it never reaches a critical explosive mass whereby the leaders are lynched.

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Due to the $ peg HK prices are going ape for food, energy and transport. My dad estimates the price of everything in a year has gone up at least 20% which means my bolt hole just in case isn't as nice as it was previously. I still have another two bolt holes though.

Where are the other 2?

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Its a cultural difference tbh, Asians are bottle up their rage and discontent and release it in massive bloody revolutionary torrents. They can't vent online because of internet censorship. They can't vent in the press because of press censorship. They don't go to pubs, it is considered bad form in face terms to complain about things endlessly. Thus every so often it reaches a massive critical mass where the people burst and have a bloody revolution.

Westerners release it gradualy by venting on HPC, down the pub to their mates and some in friday night fights outside the pub. Thus it never reaches a critical explosive mass whereby the leaders are lynched.

Time for you to brush up on your European history I think. The relatively long periods of stability in Europe have a habit of being punctuated by brutal wars every 75 to 100 years. It was one of the major factors that drove Europeans to emigrate in large numbers from the 17th century on. All the immigrants and asylum seekers who come to Europe thinking it is 'safe' simply don't understand the dynamics of the history of the place. I expect some are living blithely in Flemish towns which have been reduced to rubble twice in the past century. Contrary to what many believe this is a game which Britain is involved whether we like it or not. The big killing grounds for British soldiers have never been Afghanistan, Iraq or other far flung parts of the Empire but the Low Countries and Northern France. It may be peaceful now but there is no shortage of unsettled business that might kick off problems in the future particularly if the EU folds.

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Time for you to brush up on your European history I think. The relatively long periods of stability in Europe have a habit of being punctuated by brutal wars every 75 to 100 years. It was one of the major factors that drove Europeans to emigrate in large numbers from the 17th century on. All the immigrants and asylum seekers who come to Europe thinking it is 'safe' simply don't understand the dynamics of the history of the place. I expect some are living blithely in Flemish towns which have been reduced to rubble twice in the past century. Contrary to what many believe this is a game which Britain is involved whether we like it or not. The big killing grounds for British soldiers have never been Afghanistan, Iraq or other far flung parts of the Empire but the Low Countries and Northern France. It may be peaceful now but there is no shortage of unsettled business that might kick off problems in the future particularly if the EU folds.

I suppose if you include all of Europe then it makes sense. But from a country perspective we've not have a violent insurrection against the government for quite some time.

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Quite possibly because we might be more enlightened than to just go tearing the place down ala greek style although I dont include parts of NI in that comment although to be fair those are different issues.

Riots are afterall just the public throwing their toys out of the pram so noone can play with them so to speak.

Yes riots solve nothing, an insurrection where we end up hanging people at the end in Wembly stadium, now that would raise a few eyebrows.

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+1. And cool_hand, I also believe there is next to no hope. Get out of here, I plan to!

Page 6 of todays "News of the World" (laugh, but it is a great barometer of public opinion) has a big feature on the state of the nations economy and the publics mindset towards their finances. In the survey, they ask (amongst other questions), Which of these has had the biggest impact on your income?

Rising fuel prices (39%)

Rising energy bills (24%)

Supermarket prices (19%)

Tax & loss of benefits (5%)

Not a SINGLE mention of high house prices in the whole article.

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This mornIng the BBC reported that 500,000 children in the UK are at risk from liver disease thanks to obesity. This typifies why there will never be an insurrection, no matter how deep matters descend. Why on earth would anyone want to riot when they are fat and contented? They are not hungry; they have no appetite for it.

Demanding probity in national affairs comes very low down the public's list of priorities.

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