jaynewcastle Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Great post Sourmash. Public sector pensions were revised after a lot of debate just 6 years ago in 2005 in order to make them affordable. The only thing that has happened since then has been the economic crisis caused by the financial sector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.steve Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Stealing is wrong. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravity always wins Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Great post Sourmash. Public sector pensions were revised after a lot of debate just 6 years ago in 2005 in order to make them affordable. The only thing that has happened since then has been the economic crisis caused by the financial sector Times have changes since 2005 and so has the Govt and its mandate - such is the nature of democracy. You must understand that the finacial crisis is a reaction to an unsustainable credit boom. The bankers gave you the lifestyles you wanted and now they can't. Be angry with the Labour Govt for making promises they should have known they couldn't keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravity always wins Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 The issue here is, though, that there was a deal between the employer and the workers for pensions. We are now seeing that deal being unilaterally reneged upon. We had an election. There is a different lot in and that is how it goes always has done and always will. The public sector has had a good run the party is over. TBH the banking system is so f*cked that what ever new promises are cobbled together now won't be met either!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetReadyToTumble Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 ANy one else been effected by the strikes ? No, nothing here. Drove to the shops, got petrol, ATM, more shops, bought some veggies from a local stall, had a chat in the charity shop, drove home. So, whose on strike then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash4781 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) Notice it's over pensions. Nothing on pay or jobs? ~(edit) Public sector pay has been rising (partly through increments, and bonus payments). In fact the report by that ex Labour minister blew away the myth that those in the public sector are paid less than their private sector counterparts. Edited June 30, 2011 by Ash4781 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaynewcastle Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Depends if you only read the newspaper headlines really. Look more into the debate & you'll know its about much more than pensions, ie working 6-8 years longer, below inflation payrises for several years now, paying more into your pension to get less at the end, redundancies & job cuts etc. Doesn't only happen in the private sector you know, no matter what rubbish you read on here . We're all in this together as they keep saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Depends if you only read the newspaper headlines really. Look more into the debate & you'll know its about much more than pensions, ie working 6-8 years longer, below inflation payrises for several years now, paying more into your pension to get less at the end, redundancies & job cuts etc. Doesn't only happen in the private sector you know, no matter what rubbish you read on here . We're all in this together as they keep saying yes we do all suffer the same so what do you want me to do about it again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockrobin Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 There were two parties of school children at a museum in Birmingham today. Bet they weren't comprehensives! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockrobin Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Depends if you only read the newspaper headlines really. Look more into the debate & you'll know its about much more than pensions, ie working 6-8 years longer, below inflation payrises for several years now, paying more into your pension to get less at the end, redundancies & job cuts etc. Doesn't only happen in the private sector you know, no matter what rubbish you read on here . We're all in this together as they keep saying Below inflation pay rises for several years eh?! Try no pay rises for several years! Public sector have had it too good for too long!! We're not in this together at all!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEATH Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Public Sector people promising other Public Sector People stuff then blaming the taxpayer for it. The blind leading the blind. Why not just pay the Public Sector people a maket rate for the job they do and have feck all to do with pensions. Let me repeat that: HAVE FECK ALL TO DO WITH PENSIONS!!! All political parties are responsible for this. All public sector pensions should have been shut down 20 years ago when people stopped dying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Depends if you only read the newspaper headlines really. Look more into the debate & you'll know its about much more than pensions, ie working 6-8 years longer, below inflation payrises for several years now, paying more into your pension to get less at the end, redundancies & job cuts etc. Doesn't only happen in the private sector you know, no matter what rubbish you read on here . We're all in this together as they keep saying am I supposed to have a problem with this? I am private sector and fund my own pension. I am private sector and fund your pension too. See the issue there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Great post Sourmash. Public sector pensions were revised after a lot of debate just 6 years ago in 2005 in order to make them affordable. The only thing that has happened since then has been the economic crisis caused by the financial sector ....no....caused by Nuliebor and Gordo the Clown... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 ..I am private sector and fund your pension too. ... .....and the salary, increments and bonuses.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cica Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Why? I don't think stealing is wrong but I think someone that thinks stealing is a way to a truly prosperous society would be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpw Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Just realized why we can hear the sound of squealing pigs in the distance..... it's the public service strikers! Oink oink..... What are these people thinking. Some 40% of the british workforce now works in pubic service and they are expecting the other 60% to pay for social services scroungers on the dole, illegal immigrant housing, and pensions that they themselves cant afford. Britiain is Orwell's nightmare. All pips are equal, but some pigs are more equal than others. The shoe is about to drop in the UK. I would suggest you all move your cash into dollars in the short to medium term. You are about to get rubber ducked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentholist Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Just realized why we can hear the sound of squealing pigs in the distance..... it's the public service strikers! Oink oink..... What are these people thinking. Some 40% of the british workforce now works in pubic service and they are expecting the other 60% to pay for social services scroungers on the dole, illegal immigrant housing, and pensions that they themselves cant afford. Britiain is Orwell's nightmare. All pips are equal, but some pigs are more equal than others. The shoe is about to drop in the UK. I would suggest you all move your cash into dollars in the short to medium term. You are about to get rubber ducked. Dollars? Them with the multi trillion dollar debt? Frying pan and fire spring to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie The Tramp Returns Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Strikes How they effecting you No problem, I stay in bed until it`s all over. It`s like bad weather really. Strikes How they are affecting you Correction by CTTR, and to think Teachers are on strike, the mind boggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profitofdoom Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 ....no....caused by Nuliebor and Gordo the Clown... The weakness that occurs to me in this "It's all the fault of Labour" argument is that come election day we should be seeing bankers and hedge fund managers out working to re-elect them.Now, I stand to be corrected here,but in my experience every banker I have ever known has been a Tory. I think it far more likely that from the Prawn Cocktail Offensive of the late John Smith Labour have been in hock to the bankers and media barons and were therefore unable to freely control the financial sector withouit suffering the fury of those VI's. Does anyone seriously argue that lord Snooty and pals would have constrained them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammo Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 It seems to me that after weeks of being told to expect the biggest strikes in 100 years, it was a bit of an anticlimax. But I'm assuming I just somehow flukily managed to avoid the bedlam. How has everyone else coped? I could be flippant and quote an ex-public sector comrade in his assessment that the strikes will have just been an excuse for a day off. Apparently strikes commonly take place in the summer, I wasn't aware of this - rather naively - until told straight up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilham Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 It wasn't easy having to endure the hourly ramping on the news but we managed to get through it. When they call the next one though I'll have to take extreme measures to survive, such as switching the radio off for the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTMark Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Can't say it made much difference. But I did spend an hour in the evening emptying the contents of our non recyclable bin into a metal one and setting it on fire to destroy an infestation of maggots, since nobody had collected it for nearly two weeks and it absolutely reeked. I think the biggest impact of the strikes isn't going to be that the jobcentre is shut, it's going to be all the lost days of productivity in the private sector thanks to employees having to stay at home and look after their kids because the schools are shut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashedOutAndBurned Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Can't say it made much difference. But I did spend an hour in the evening emptying the contents of our non recyclable bin into a metal one and setting it on fire to destroy an infestation of maggots, since nobody had collected it for nearly two weeks and it absolutely reeked. I think the biggest impact of the strikes isn't going to be that the jobcentre is shut, it's going to be all the lost days of productivity in the private sector thanks to employees having to stay at home and look after their kids because the schools are shut. Apparently shops saw half-term like trade. Perhaps strikes are the lift 'consumer confidence' needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingermany Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Daily Express Daily Express is blaming teachers for the death of this poor girl. Crushed by a falling tree branch................but it wouldn't have happened if the school was open. Reveals the ever bizarre mindset that the DE attributes to its own readership. Attempting to widen the blame and recrimination way beyond the bounds of common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly_Boy Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Apparently shops saw half-term like trade. Perhaps strikes are the lift 'consumer confidence' needs. I popped into town and it was full of school children and fat (very fat in 40% of cases) mothers huffing and puffing as they pushed around the over weight turd they've sh1tted out in the last couple of years. How do women get so fat, it's disgusting. Sorry, off topic, but yeah, the shops were busy, the roads seems a little quieter and the government saved a few quid by not having to pay all those public sector 'workers'. All in all I think it was a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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