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Neighbour has an old white Mk1 VW Golf. It sound pretty rough with a wide bore exhaust and he's constantly tinkering with it. Indeed he is a pain with it due to extra noise it makes, plus it has one of these irritating alarms which he "beeps" repeatedly.

However notices whenever it passed by it gives off a strange smell which I've only ever experienced at race tracks (I think).

Could he be running the thing on some kind of Nitrous Oxide conversion. Is that legal to run on UK public roads from a taxation point of view, and whats more is it safe, should it display special signs like some lorry's do?

Might not be nitrous oxide at all. Might be something else. But that thing isn't running "petrol."

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Petrol I assume, so not old chip fat...

Might be petrol/ethanol mix...or nitromethane :lol:

You'd know if it was NOS. :D

Petrol GTI so I guess NOS.

Seems perfectly legal only problem is insurance. Kits from £500 for any fuel injected petrol car.

http://www.noswizard.com/index.php/sb150i-nitrous-kit-suitable-for-most-injected-engines-with-a-single-throttle-body-411.html

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The whole idea is laughable.

What boosting your car with NOS? I assume the NoS just provides the boost?

The car seems modded out for street racing; its lowered, wide bore exhaust etc, though he goes to work in it and his misses does the shopping in it.

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What boosting your car with NOS? I assume the NoS just provides the boost?

Yes. NOS provides the petrol combustion chamber with extra 02 and by the nature of NOS expanding from a liquid to a gas, cools in the incoming air which lowers the density and allows for a greater fuel intake, which is not so much a 'boost' as a more complete thermodynamic cycle.

...of course at the added cost of a higher combustion temperature and the increased stresses in the engine system through the forces created with your extra power per cycle. Plus the cost of tweaking your system.

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What boosting your car with NOS? I assume the NoS just provides the boost?

The car seems modded out for street racing; its lowered, wide bore exhaust etc, though he goes to work in it and his misses does the shopping in it.

NO is also known as laughing gas, hence thecrashingisles little joke. He could be running premix where you add oil to the fuel. This is often what you smell at racetracks.

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NO is also known as laughing gas, hence thecrashingisles little joke. He could be running premix where you add oil to the fuel. This is often what you smell at racetracks.

Can you do that with four strokes? blink.gif

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Heh, that was my thought too... A two stroke car?

Gosh, how I wish I never sold my ikkle 125cc wananbe racer. I may just have a look on eBay tonight...

You might pick up a Wartburg, they were two strokes!

Wartburg_353.jpg

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Just a small point...and speaking as a scientist......

That smell you describe is probably nitrogen dioxide. N2O2. It is a brown, sweet smelling gas which causes septic pneumonia.

This is one disease you don't want to be exposed to...believe me!

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You might pick up a Wartburg, they were two strokes!

Wartburg_353.jpg

Heh, Wiki

There are three models of Wartburg 353 - Limousine(Sedan), Tourist(combi) and Trans(pickup). Two modifications of equipment: 353W (standard) and 353S (De Luxe). The De luxe version has electronic igniton, 5 speed gearbox, front and back fog lights, alarm system and central lock door. The engine of the car is two stroke with 55-57 horsepower(depending of the carburettor type). Usually this model can reach around 150-160 km/h but some modified versions can reach over 200 km/h In 1988 the new model Wartburg 1.3 replaced the old model 353W, featuring the reliable engine from the Volkswagen Golf.

Or, one of these

01aprilia-rs250.jpeg

Skimping on pricy fully-synthetic two-stroke oil is asking for trouble. Without it engine life is very much compromised. You’re looking at a new piston kit (from £65 or so) every 6000 miles, too. Aprilia RS250s are as likely to be owned by youngsters who ignore service intervals and poorly maintain their bikes as enthusiasts. Buy one with service history from a bloke with share in Putoline.
:lol::lol::lol: Now that brings back some memories.
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NO is leagal to be fitted to a road car just not in use, you have tp have it dissabled by a switch/valve that is not accessable from the cabbin of the vehicle when in use on a public road.

I highly doubt it is running form of NOS and it would only be used when he wants the power as it can be quite expensive. I recon you are smelling oil and fuel. If he has a turbo the oil seal could be leaking and or a boot leak which will allow more fuel through the system.

The car could have a lpg conversion or he is using a high ethonol mix of fuel

why not ask him?

Oh and IIRC they used NOS on spitfires to get more power from the merlin engines

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Just a small point...and speaking as a scientist......

That smell you describe is probably nitrogen dioxide. N2O2. It is a brown, sweet smelling gas which causes septic pneumonia.

This is one disease you don't want to be exposed to...believe me!

I've been told on another forum that it is probably Race Fuel, something like C16. Supposedly very expensive! either that or he is mixing Meth in the tank.

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Aren't these ultra-loud exhausts an MOT failure?

I live under the flight path into Gatwick and these little turds can out-do the noisy airliners in and out of the airport. How do they get away with running them when Ford were forced to stop making the old Escort Cosworth due it being too loud? :angry:

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Not sure bout cars, but certainly on bikes the sound level test has been scrapped. It's now the testers discretion. I left my loud pipe on (130dB!) and the tester just said it was a bit loud. :)

He didn't bitchslap you for being an irritating dick?

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