Tired of Waiting Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 (edited) A news website specialised in social housing ("Inside Housing") has sponsored a public opinion poll by Ipsos Mori about two issues: Housing benefits; and Planning reform. Both sets of results are in one single Power Point file: POLL RESULTS: http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/Journals/1/Files/2011/6/17/Full%20survey%20results.ppt Slides 1-27 - "Public attitudes towards housing benefits" Slides 28-47 - "Involvement in local planing" and "Public Attitudes towards development" Though I guess it would be better if we discuss these two different issues in two separate threads. We can try to keep this one for Housing benefits. I've started another thread for Planning/Developments issues, here: http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=165307&st=0#entry3025575 ) . Edited June 17, 2011 by Tired of Waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reck B Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I hate to think that major decisions are made based on public attitudes in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderpup Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Housing benefits= a wealth transfer from the state to mostly middle class landlords- a situation exacerbated in part by middle class nimbys, and middle class politicians too busy building their own BTL empires to deal with the housing problem and/or have an ideological opposition to LA housing in any form and in all cases sat on their hands while HPI drove up the costs. Oh- I nearly forgot- we need to piss on some chavs because somehow, some way- this is all their fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tired of Waiting Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 I hate to think that major decisions are made based on public attitudes in this country. Well, there is a democratic component to it, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadoube Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 People more likely to receive benefit are more likely to support no change to benefits. People with most money/biggest houses are least likely to support poorer people getting them. The nimby effect is greatest in the pleasant wealthy areas. Those without a house are most likely to want more houses built in their local area. Few people will support something that goes as far as to increase homelessness. And in our latest survey : The Pope is a Catholic bear who sh1ts in the woods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tired of Waiting Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 (edited) People more likely to receive benefit are more likely to support no change to benefits. People with most money/biggest houses are least likely to support poorer people getting them. Actually both polls were surprising. On housing benefits, I thought public opinion would be very polarised, but the biggest group by far is the "don't care much either way". The nimby effect is greatest in the pleasant wealthy areas. Those without a house are most likely to want more houses built in their local area. Few people will support something that goes as far as to increase homelessness. And in our latest survey : The Pope is a Catholic bear who sh1ts in the woods And on planning, an even greater surprise here: http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=165307&view=findpost&p=3025658 . Edited June 17, 2011 by Tired of Waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiges Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Were those questioned given the facts before answering the survey ? I think if people knew how many billions went on HB they wouldn't respond the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadoube Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Actually both polls were surprising. On housing benefits, I thought public opinion would be very polarised, but the biggest group by far is the "don't care much either way". . Fair point. I was thinking of the overall feel of the results. Certainly a number took the opposite view to their ' expected' position of their place in the hierarchy. I wasn't that surprised by the numbers avoiding either extreme. I'm not sure its don't care much either way, There are many more people who consider the other fellow's point of view than the partisan behaviour typical of internet forums would suggest. The silent majority can have a consensual attitude - socialist (small s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tired of Waiting Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 (edited) Were those questioned given the facts before answering the survey ? I think if people knew how many billions went on HB they wouldn't respond the same. Yes, good point. And I think the worst problem created by housing benefits is not just expense itself, but the lifting of all rents across the whole country. I bet the majority of the population think HB benefits "the needy". If they knew it actually benefits the landlords, I guess the poll results would be very different. Then again, I do think this discussion is secondary. If we had built more houses in this past decade we wouldn't be arguing about housing benefits, or about high rents, or high house prices. I think the other half of that poll is much more important: http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/Journals/1/Files/2011/6/17/Full%20survey%20results.ppt Edited June 17, 2011 by Tired of Waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okaycuckoo Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Then again, I do think this discussion is secondary. If we had built more houses in this past decade we wouldn't be arguing about housing benefits, or about high rents, or high house prices. I think the other half of that poll is much more important: http://www.insidehou...y%20results.ppt Disagree on that point. HPI is largely a function of lunatic lending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Employed Youth Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Such a shame landlords were not included in this survey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tired of Waiting Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share Posted June 17, 2011 Disagree on that point. HPI is largely a function of lunatic lending. I'll reply to that in the thread about planning system reforms, here: http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=165307&view=findpost&p=3025924 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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