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I have a theory about the loss of manufacturing, it is intentional, it is pervasive across the parties, it involves deals of one sort of another that benefit some other activites or back pockets - if it were not for that there would be no other excuse for the absolutely insanity in running the country back into the stone age technologically.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/jun/16/bombardier-at-risk-after-loss-of-thameslink-deal

Bombardier train factory at risk after £3bn Thameslink deal goes overseas

Unions attack 'disgraceful' move they say exposes Tory support for manufacturing as a sham

Siemens to build carriages for Thameslink upgrade

Siemens will build 1,200 new carriages for the Thameslink service. Photograph: Alamy

The future of Britain's last remaining train factory was thrown into doubt on Thursday after the government named an overseas consortium as the preferred bidder for a £3bn contract to make carriages for the upgraded Thameslink route.

The decision to sideline Bombardier Transportation's factory in Derby in favour of a group led by Siemens means one of Britain's largest train orders is likely to be made in Germany at a time when Britain desperately needs to boost its own manufacturing.

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What to do with £100M? Buy a UK business, asset strip, close it, and relocate it to a cheaper cost base. Double your money. It has proved to be a low risk strategy of making money.

Alternatively if it cannot be relocated, hollow it out. E.g. Southern Cross.

The UK is just at that period in history when the fruit is ripe for picking. That's all.

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What to do with £100M? Buy a UK business, asset strip, close it, and relocate it to a cheaper cost base. Double your money. It has proved to be a low risk strategy of making money.

Alternatively if it cannot be relocated, hollow it out. E.g. Southern Cross.

The UK is just at that period in history when the fruit is ripe for picking. That's all.

It's deindustrialisation. Do it for a while and you are unable to reindustrialise because of deskilling.

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The sick thing is, because interest rates are kept low by the BOE, easy money facilitates the process further! You don't need to make £100M, you can just borrow it!

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The elites want to remove all trace of logic and rationality from the working population.

They are offshoring jobs and wealth from the populations who want equal rights under the law, a christian heritage that has things like souls which get in the way of genetic research etc etc and moving it off to pagan lands where they melt prisoners down for soap.

What they don't seem to understand is that without the enlightenment ideals in some form, they can't have the wealth creation.

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I did a google image search for cretinism to find a portrait suitable for our leaders. In the cretinism image search a picture of David Cameron came up. :D

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I did a google image search for cretinism to find a portrait suitable for our leaders. In the cretinism image search a picture of David Cameron came up. :D

I am quite sure a year ago Gordon Brown would have been the top result.

The pictures change, nothing else.

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I don't think this is a good example of offshoring work, Germany is not China or India, they have excellent working conditions, fair wages and more importantly good management.

It could be backhanders at work, but interestingly Germany has comparatively low housing costs, so wages even when lower than the UK will provide a better standard of living.

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The elites want to remove all trace of logic and rationality from the working population.

We'll, they're slowly killing off science based academia in Britain.

We've lost faith and moral fibre.

What next?

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I have a theory about the loss of manufacturing, it is intentional, it is pervasive across the parties, it involves deals of one sort of another that benefit some other activites or back pockets - if it were not for that there would be no other excuse for the absolutely insanity in running the country back into the stone age technologically.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/jun/16/bombardier-at-risk-after-loss-of-thameslink-deal

Bombardier train factory at risk after £3bn Thameslink deal goes overseas

Unions attack 'disgraceful' move they say exposes Tory support for manufacturing as a sham

Siemens to build carriages for Thameslink upgrade

Siemens will build 1,200 new carriages for the Thameslink service. Photograph: Alamy

The future of Britain's last remaining train factory was thrown into doubt on Thursday after the government named an overseas consortium as the preferred bidder for a £3bn contract to make carriages for the upgraded Thameslink route.

The decision to sideline Bombardier Transportation's factory in Derby in favour of a group led by Siemens means one of Britain's largest train orders is likely to be made in Germany at a time when Britain desperately needs to boost its own manufacturing.

Why does a British factory have a right to expect to win this order?

If it wants to win then it has to be competitive, if it isn't it loses.

Simples.

(and if the factory is at risk it's because it doesn't win any export orders. The HIGH cost Germans can manage it, so why can't a british factory?)

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I have a theory about the loss of manufacturing, it is intentional, it is pervasive across the parties, it involves deals of one sort of another that benefit some other activites or back pockets

Or maybe the Germans just make better trains. :unsure:

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It's deindustrialisation. Do it for a while and you are unable to reindustrialise because of deskilling.

Well can't be true, because China's industialisation has been extremely rapid. You can obviously pick up the tools and learn the know-how within 10 years.

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Well can't be true, because China's industialisation has been extremely rapid. You can obviously pick up the tools and learn the know-how within 10 years.

That is only possible when the country deskilling is assisting the process.

Do you really believe for a minute that China is going to help us get those jobs back?

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