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Is there any truth to the assertion that rear suspension on bicycles will suck up a considerable amount of your pedalling power?

I was going to oil the chain of me bicycle and noticed it was missing (buggers) and it was more rust than steel heh.

Anyway I am therefore in the market for another bicycle. Since I don't mind cheap and nasty because I only go short distances or ride canal tow paths I see there are quite a few OK priced rear suspension bikes. Having only ridden no suspension bikes I have no idea.

Any thoughts?

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If you are going the cheap and nasty route I would stick to hard tail (no rear suspension). The cheap full sus bikes are terrible, you will be adding tons of weight and it will be like sitting on a bouncy castle. If you want a bit of relief for your back side then look for a cheap suspension seat post. Just my 10 pence worth :)

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Is there any truth to the assertion that rear suspension on bicycles will suck up a considerable amount of your pedalling power?

I was going to oil the chain of me bicycle and noticed it was missing (buggers) and it was more rust than steel heh.

Anyway I am therefore in the market for another bicycle. Since I don't mind cheap and nasty because I only go short distances or ride canal tow paths I see there are quite a few OK priced rear suspension bikes. Having only ridden no suspension bikes I have no idea.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

I got rid of my suspension bike in favour of an old 'sit up and beg' style, because I felt I was using more effort than necessary. I did put it down to the suspension but don't have any research to back up my suspicions.

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Well, yes you do lose some power but it very much depends on how well designed the bike is in the first place. Top of the range stuff, probably > £1000 now, you wouldn't notice so much unless you are a regular cyclist.

Cheap & nasty "bikes" with rear suspension (the sort you see in supermarkets for < £200) are a completely different story - they're not worth even the cardboard box they come in. At that price you are much better off getting a bike with no or only front suspension.

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For short distances and canal towpaths is it worth getting suspension at all? Admittedly I've only ridden bikes with front suspension, and appreciate it when descending fairly stony tracks, but I'm not sure I would bother if it wasn't ever going to go beyond pretty smooth offroad.

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The correct answers have been given already. At that price point, rear and even front suspension will do more harm than good.

Its only expensive suspension that has the tweakability to elimnate 'pedal bob'.

Asa very rough rule, until you spend £400+ then front sus is a no no and not until your at a minimum of £800-1000 is rear suspension any good.

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The correct answers have been given already. At that price point, rear and even front suspension will do more harm than good.

Its only expensive suspension that has the tweakability to elimnate 'pedal bob'.

Asa very rough rule, until you spend £400+ then front sus is a no no and not until your at a minimum of £800-1000 is rear suspension any good.

I find front suspension very useful. Tricky always seeing bumps, potholes or branches etc.. if also trying to keep your eyes out for other people, cars and the rest of it.

Doesn't weigh a huge amount more and is very handy. Rear suspension not so much I reckon. For hard core stuff yes but then tow paths are not really in that category.

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I find front suspension very useful. Tricky always seeing bumps, potholes or branches etc.. if also trying to keep your eyes out for other people, cars and the rest of it.

Doesn't weigh a huge amount more and is very handy. Rear suspension not so much I reckon. For hard core stuff yes but then tow paths are not really in that category.

Yes, on reflection the 'more harm than good' was not correct and may have actuallly done 'more harm than good'!

Cheap front sus isnt that bad (but is heavier as ccc notes). Cheap rear sus is very bad and very heavy.

Fullly rigid or hardtail for you Ken old boy - take a look at 2nd hand. Should find something decent for £200ish

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If you are going the cheap and nasty route I would stick to hard tail (no rear suspension). The cheap full sus bikes are terrible, you will be adding tons of weight and it will be like sitting on a bouncy castle. If you want a bit of relief for your back side then look for a cheap suspension seat post. Just my 10 pence worth :)

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Looks nice, but I'm not convinced about the name, it sounds like a Duchy Originals Bike !

If you're that bothered about a name, cover the transfers with tape and tell anyone who asks that it's a ninja fire b*stard fx2000 sr.

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Any thoughts?

You are correct it does suck power on the flat unless you are prepared to spend some more money. A good suspension setup will allow you to travel further by reducing fatigue though.

For your requirements It sounds like it would be pointless though, a hardtail or fully rigid would be more suited. If you can find one a second hand hybrid would be just the job.

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Suspension is heavy and will suck your power. It is totally pointless for road riding (I used to do thousands of miles a year). If it conferred any sort of advantage, you see club riders and pros using suspension bikes.

The best "upgrade" for a bike will be s decent set of wheels and tyres. A £150 pair of wheels will transform the average cheap bike. Add in a decent set of kevlar beaded tyres and you've eliminated most of the energy sucking parts.

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Suspension is heavy and will suck your power. It is totally pointless for road riding (I used to do thousands of miles a year). If it conferred any sort of advantage, you see club riders and pros using suspension bikes.

The best "upgrade" for a bike will be s decent set of wheels and tyres. A £150 pair of wheels will transform the average cheap bike. Add in a decent set of kevlar beaded tyres and you've eliminated most of the energy sucking parts.

I'd tend to agree - rear suspension is pointless unless you are throwing yourself down the side of a mountain, and as people have said decent rear suspension is expensive.

I would say that before you worry about wheels, get the saddle right. A good saddle and you'll ride for hours without a problem. A bad one and you'll be numb in ten minutes. No point in recommending one - depends on your arseshape. I would recommend one that protects the perineum. Getting the height, angle, and horizontal positioning right is also important.

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Oh and get Schwalbe marathon plus semi slicks if going for a bike to ride on canal paths, tracks and roads. I wouldnt even consider getting anything else anymore.

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OT but I noticed the cycle couriers in London tend to go for single speed machines now. Looked at some "working bikes" and like the stripped to the bone simplicity. I think if you are constantly using your bike for work, you need a really simple setup, and the same applies to suspensions. Go without!

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OT but I noticed the cycle couriers in London tend to go for single speed machines now. Looked at some "working bikes" and like the stripped to the bone simplicity. I think if you are constantly using your bike for work, you need a really simple setup, and the same applies to suspensions. Go without!

The principle is sound, but..... I have a fixie (not to keep trendy, it is the one I used to race 25 years ago).... couriers get away with fixies because they are riding all day and are incredibly fit, strong and good bike handlers. Normal mortals should not think about getting one, no matter how trendy they are.

Everything else worth saying about suspension etc has been said: Ken should get a second hand hardtail or hybrid and go to a good bike shop for their advice on changing the saddle and tyres. The rear shock on my full suss is a Fox RP23 and is quite good at controlling pedal bob, although you still get some when honking up a hill. Costs about twice as much as the most expensive supermarket bike. I dont want to even imagine what it would be like to (try) to ride a bike that cheap.

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The principle is sound, but..... I have a fixie (not to keep trendy, it is the one I used to race 25 years ago).... couriers get away with fixies because they are riding all day and are incredibly fit, strong and good bike handlers. Normal mortals should not think about getting one, no matter how trendy they are.

Sorry to hijack your topic with Ken with "fixie porn" but can't resist. They are so damn sexy! cool.gif

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