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Schapps' nice idea to force land price markets to lower land prices, won't upset the indebted masses too much as they wpon't associate this with house prices

bloke from Shelter is still an idiot - he just wants mega social housing building and a job in it for himself, t0sser

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I'm warming to Schapps

labour MP says 'the new govt cut the housing budget, so they will build less homes'

Schapps says 'let's judge on outcomes not on how much taxpayers' money we can spend'

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bloke from Shelter seems like a fool

He does look a bit slow, but a t least he was pressing for new builds. I think this is the most important thing, 'cause they are durable, structural, almost permanent. Finances wobble up and down a lot. But houses are much longer lasting.

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He does look a bit slow, but a t least he was pressing for new builds. I think this is the most important thing, 'cause they are durable, structural, almost permanent. Finances wobble up and down a lot. But houses are much longer lasting.

well it's a shame that housebuilding has become (apparently) the moral preserve of the left, for some good and some bad reasons

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I'm warming to Schapps

labour MP says 'the new govt cut the housing budget, so they will build less homes'

Schapps says 'let's judge on outcomes not on how much taxpayers' money we can spend'

Indeed, What the hell has the housing budget got to do with house building? Mortgage lending expanded hugely under liebour, house building was at historic lows. That should tell you something. Its not about money alone.

It all goes to raising rental prices. Only thing that will increase house building is looser land controls. Until that happens it only serves to make housing more unaffordable.

Liebour confused, or trying to confuse the electorate, as usual.

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well it's a shame that housebuilding has become (apparently) the moral preserve of the left, for some good and some bad reasons

Watching this debate I had the impression that Shapps does intend to build more than Labour. I can't be sure though, of course.

And even if he intends to, the question is: will he manage to?

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Indeed, What the hell has the housing budget got to do with house building? Mortgage lending expanded hugely under liebour, house building was at historic lows. That should tell you something. Its not about money alone.

It all goes to raising rental prices. Only thing that will increase house building is looser land controls. Until that happens it only serves to make housing more unaffordable.

Liebour confused, or trying to confuse the electorate, as usual.

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NIMBYs are fecking evil b@stards. And the Local Authorities are the same sh!t.

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Having met with and had ongoing correspondence with my local Conservative MP i know they see Labour’s policy on housing and the HPI as a very bad thing, he particularly liked the Adam Smith Institute piece from last month. Anything of this nature that i get from HPC goes straight to him!

They see any further HPI as having a massive negative impact on the wider UK economy and as such you can see a move for good away from the Labour nutters be it through a perceivable change of attitude towards HPI but also in trying to push greater focus (and incentives) on local communities to give consent to more house building. That said they also see a market losing 10% annually as a very bad thing, so as such you could say they are exactly where they want to be when it comes to the housing market.

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Having met with and had ongoing correspondence with my local Conservative MP i know they see Labour’s policy on housing and the HPI as a very bad thing, he particularly liked the Adam Smith Institute piece from last month. Anything of this nature that i get from HPC goes straight to him!

They see any further HPI as having a massive negative impact on the wider UK economy and as such you can see a move for good away from the Labour nutters be it through a perceivable change of attitude towards HPI but also in trying to push greater focus (and incentives) on local communities to give consent to more house building. That said they also see a market losing 10% annually as a very bad thing, so as such you could say they are exactly where they want to be when it comes to the housing market.

Which Adam Smith Institute piece? If it's not too much trouble, could you please post the link here?

Did we have a thread about that? (I think I was travelling.)

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Having met with and had ongoing correspondence with my local Conservative MP i know they see Labour's policy on housing and the HPI as a very bad thing, he particularly liked the Adam Smith Institute piece from last month. Anything of this nature that i get from HPC goes straight to him!

They see any further HPI as having a massive negative impact on the wider UK economy and as such you can see a move for good away from the Labour nutters be it through a perceivable change of attitude towards HPI but also in trying to push greater focus (and incentives) on local communities to give consent to more house building. That said they also see a market losing 10% annually as a very bad thing, so as such you could say they are exactly where they want to be when it comes to the housing market.

what was that again?

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Slight anecdotal.

I am running in to a fair amount of "lefties" who are slowly having their hypocrisy / confusion smoked out of them as the noose tightens.

Including one shrieking bint last Friday at a mates birthday bash. who simply would not accept price falls are unavoidable.

Rather than celebrate this as a herald for more affordability for working people, she went mental, shreiking "its an investment! its an investment!" at me.

I just sat there grinning like someone out of a Chris Morris sketch.

None of them saw the 5 years of vote buying by McFreak and Co. Or chose to ignore it.

Ace.

All these public servant types have been playing Junior Beanie, and pulling up the ladder as fast as they can.

Its going to bite them in the **** soon.

HPC is a religion in this country.

Theres about to be a holy war!

OUCH!! B)

Edited by shindigger

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Slight anecdotal.

I am running in to a fair amount of "lefties" who are slowly having their hypocrisy / confusion smoked out of them as the noose tightens.

Including one shrieking bint last Friday at a mates birthday bash. who simply would not accept price falls are unavoidable.

Rather than celebrate this as a herald for more affordability for working people, she went mental, shreiking "its an investment! its an investment!" at me.

I just sat there grinning like someone out of a Chris Morris sketch.

None of them saw the 5 years of vote buying by McFreak and Co. Or chose to ignore it.

Ace.

All these public servant types have been playing Junior Beanie, and pulling up the ladder as fast as they can.

Its going to bite them in the **** soon.

HPC is a religion in this country.

Theres about to be a holy war!

OUCH!! B)

nice

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Slight anecdotal.

I am running in to a fair amount of "lefties" who are slowly having their hypocrisy / confusion smoked out of them as the noose tightens.

Including one shrieking bint last Friday at a mates birthday bash. who simply would not accept price falls are unavoidable.

Rather than celebrate this as a herald for more affordability for working people, she went mental, shreiking "its an investment! its an investment!" at me.

I just sat there grinning like someone out of a Chris Morris sketch.

None of them saw the 5 years of vote buying by McFreak and Co. Or chose to ignore it.

Ace.

All these public servant types have been playing Junior Beanie, and pulling up the ladder as fast as they can.

Its going to bite them in the **** soon.

HPC is a religion in this country.

Theres about to be a holy war!

OUCH!! B)

A pleasure to read it. Thanks. :)

The next decade may be fantastic. It may be much better than we have ever imagined.

Or a disaster. Do-no.

But I think it will be very nice - for the prudent, all things considered. Chicken coming home to roost and all that.

Hopefully.

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A pleasure to read it. Thanks. :)

The next decade may be fantastic. It may be much better than we have ever imagined.

I hope it's quicker than that, I won't be able to put my other half off buying a house for that long!

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I hope it's quicker than that, I won't be able to put my other half off buying a house for that long!

Oh I didn't mean that. I think we may be able to buy in 1-3 years. But I think the re-adjustments, socially, will keep happening for many years to come, with the prudent less burdened by debt. :D

Edited by Tired of Waiting

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A pleasure to read it. Thanks. :)

The next decade may be fantastic. It may be much better than we have ever imagined.

Or a disaster. Do-no.

But I think it will be very nice - for the prudent, all things considered. Chicken coming home to roost and all that.

Hopefully.

I don't think my own social scars will ever heal, the pro-mortgage bosses, the blazing rows with very close members of my family over wasters getting absurd deposits, the people, family and friends, who I will never speak to again because of the sh*t they gave me for simply doing some arithmetic, and I was the irresponsible one for not taking out a mortgage

f*cking scum

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I don't think my own social scars will ever heal, the pro-mortgage bosses, the blazing rows with very close members of my family over wasters getting absurd deposits, the people, family and friends, who I will never speak to again because of the sh*t they gave me for simply doing some arithmetic, and I was the irresponsible one for not taking out a mortgage

f*cking scum

Sorry to hear that Si.

Perhaps time will heal some relationships there - and just those you want healed. ;)

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But I think the re-adjustments, socially, will keep happening for many years to come, with the prudent less burdened by debt. :D

Ah yes, I must admit that I'm quite looking forward to that bit.

I hope you're right about the 1-3 years bit too, I won't be able to put her off for much longer than that, it's a struggle now. Damn women and their nesting instincts! ;)

Edited by Fishbone Glover

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Sorry to hear that Si.

Perhaps time will heal some relationships there - and just those you want healed. ;)

unfortunately not, because over time these f*ckwits will be bailed out by collective family money as, after all, they're responsible homeowners on the mortgage ladder

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Slight anecdotal.

I am running in to a fair amount of "lefties" who are slowly having their hypocrisy / confusion smoked out of them as the noose tightens.

Including one shrieking bint last Friday at a mates birthday bash. who simply would not accept price falls are unavoidable.

Rather than celebrate this as a herald for more affordability for working people, she went mental, shreiking "its an investment! its an investment!" at me.

I just sat there grinning like someone out of a Chris Morris sketch.

None of them saw the 5 years of vote buying by McFreak and Co. Or chose to ignore it.

Ace.

All these public servant types have been playing Junior Beanie, and pulling up the ladder as fast as they can.

Its going to bite them in the **** soon.

HPC is a religion in this country.

Theres about to be a holy war!

OUCH!! B)

EVERYTHING you say is 100% correct!!

Boy oh boy - I have had SO MANY "arguments" - PARTICULARLY WITH 'BINTS' - Who - when you say house prices are going to & SHOULD plunge - ....THEY HIT THE F%CKING ROOF AND GO COMPLETELY MENTAL.......

As you say -- it's a religion -- it's a CRAZY CULT...... :wacko::wacko::wacko::wacko::wacko::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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As you say -- it's a religion -- it's a CRAZY CULT...... :wacko::wacko::wacko::wacko::wacko::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

some women are infected by this, some aren't; it seems if they have been given reason to think they're cleverer than they really are, with few correcting influences, ie a public sector career or, when younger, being daddy's princess etc, they then lose their minds and go stupidly irrational on properdie

I'm glad that, as a makeweight for my crazy own family, my partner is very level-headed and probably more financially sane than me, there are some (correction: I'm sure plenty) gems out there, but of course they don't shriek and go off their heads so we don't notice them

edit: to more than balance my sexism, you have to accept that every other field of bubble-pumping (banking, property industry, BTL) was/is dominated by alpha males

Edited by Si1

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Havent we seen this all before?

We all know Andrew Neil, owns multiple properties, and refuses to read out fair comments on housing on the Daily Politics.

Tory and Labour, Neo corporatists, want to continue a fascist housing boom.

None of them are interested in helping FTB'ers.

Better question to ask would be, how many of the Champagne Socialist BBC executives, each earning six figure, tax payer subsidised salaries, acquired BTL from 1999-2009?

Whilst pushing property porn programmes, and suppressing programmes on mortgage fraud?

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