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...that's complete twaddle.

Cameron is spot on - don't have kids until you can afford to support them.

It's called being responsible.

...that's complete twaddle.

Cameron is talking ******** - create a society where people other than millionaires can afford to have kids.

It's called being responsible.

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haha typical tory/right wing crap.

It is a human right to have kids, tough, make the system serve the people not the other way around.

wealth redistribution is the only way, tax Cameron until he leaves the country.

tax the billionaires until they leave, who cares, the kids are the future not the miserable old buggers counting their money.

Thats great, but the world doesn't need anymore mouths to feed anytime soon. Anything most of the country can produce are just a waste of space quite frankly. Most people just have kids through ego motives. :rolleyes:

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Dave could say this about a lot of things. Perhaps Dave should be saying that people ought not to buy a house before they can afford to, or a car, or a big TV or new kitchen etc.

I wonder why he isn't and why he's focusing on this?

... Yet more corrupt socialist reasoning.

People cannot afford to buy houses... that's why they have to borrow money (it's called a mortgage by the way).

As for cars/TVs/Kitchens etc. ... most people borrow money to get these things (that's called getting a loan).

Your comment is completely spurious to what Cameron is saying.

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If its to expensive for normal "HWF" to have kids its too expenive. Regime change please.

Nah not really...

If he was advocating post birth abortion for the lifer-dolies then that'd be something else.

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It is a human right to have kids, tough, make the system serve the people not the other way around.

It is absolutely your right to have them. It is not your right to ask demand that everyone else pays for it.

People are generally happy to provide a safety net.. not support a career in benefit claiming. IMHO.

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ok im only 30 but ive not seen those credentials in a political decision in my entire life (apart from maybe the last x years on lax immigration)

It's probably just a good sound bite.. but if he follows through do you really think this strategy would improve his chances of re-election? really?

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... Yet more corrupt socialist reasoning.

People cannot afford to buy houses... that's why they have to borrow money (it's called a mortgage by the way).

As for cars/TVs/Kitchens etc. ... most people borrow money to get these things (that's called getting a loan).

Your comment is completely spurious to what Cameron is saying.

Can you explain what's 'socialist' about what I'm saying (in non-bold words of normal case)?

Rather than saying anything substantial about our economic situation and how we got here, which might upset his voters and corporate backers, Dave's focusing on a side issue that'll go down well with them. More spin, more posturing, no substance. It was the modus operandi of the last government and this one's looking to be no different.

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It's probably just a good sound bite.. but if he follows through do you really think this strategy would improve his chances of re-election? really?

i think Labour will cane the tories asses because they simply won the last election, the majority dont give a sh!t outside getting poorer, on the bright side id love to see default under Labour who deserve it, on the downside, it doesnt matter who default happens under, all people give a sh!t about is left and right in the tickbox even if they are all fundamentally corporatist/fascist/mercantilist, however many favours that does or doesnt do me

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i think Labour will cane the tories asses because they simply won the last election, the majority dont give a sh!t outside getting poorer, on the bright side id love to see default under Labour who deserve it, on the downside, it doesnt matter who default happens under, all people give a sh!t about is left and right in the tickbox even if they are all fundamentally corporatist/fascist/mercantilist, however many favours that does or doesnt me

That didn't answer the question ;)

But as to your prediction.. very quite probably possible.

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He's not saying that at all.

He's saying people should not have children and expect others to pay for their entire upkeep through the benefits system because they do not work or have an income themselves.

And I agree with that sentiment, and he is in touch with the wider electorate on this issue.

And can you please tell me where the "humanity" is in the fact I cannot afford to start a family, yet pay thousands upon thousands every year in tax to fund other people who continue to have children when they have no income themselves?

Totally agree. However, it's just words, what the f4ck is Cameron really going to do about it? Especially in a country that has few factories for the ill-educated to work in. Feck all, that's what. The hand outs will keep coming until the whole country goes broke. End of.

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haha typical tory/right wing crap.

It is a human right to have kids, tough, make the system serve the people not the other way around.

wealth redistribution is the only way, tax Cameron until he leaves the country.

tax the billionaires until they leave, who cares, the kids are the future not the miserable old buggers counting their money.

Are you Diane Abbott? This is exactly the sort of thing I imagine she thinks.

Personally, I have no problem with benefits being used to help out people who have hit tough times, but that is all they should be, a safety net.

I do have a huge issue with people who live off benefits from the day they leave school to the day they die.

There are many young mums (less than 20 years old) in our town who have had kids and the council's are homing them in new build 3 bed houses, and a nice bit of money every month.

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Totally agree. However, it's just words, what the f4ck is Cameron really going to do about it? Especially in a country that has few factories for the ill-educated to work in. Feck all, that's what. The hand outs will keep coming until the whole country goes broke. End of.

Yes, he jawboned over immigration. No action.

Expect more of the same.

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Are you Diane Abbott? This is exactly the sort of thing I imagine she thinks.

Personally, I have no problem with benefits being used to help out people who have hit tough times, but that is all they should be, a safety net.

I do have a huge issue with people who live off benefits from the day they leave school to the day they die.

There are many young mums (less than 20 years old) in our town who have had kids and the council's are homing them in new build 3 bed houses, and a nice bit of money every month.

then its about time you stopped paying the council, this is your fault, noone elses, and if you dont have the power to stop the council, move, or put up

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then its about time you stopped paying the council, this is your fault, noone elses, and if you dont have the power to stop the council, move, or put up

I'm a mug, I know, I naively thought the council would spend the revenue wisely.

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And can you please tell me where the "humanity" is in the fact I cannot afford to start a family, yet pay thousands upon thousands every year in tax to fund other people who continue to have children when they have no income themselves?

Its because your a numpty thats why, i.e. it is your duty to evade as much tax as possible and thus to avoid the above happening.

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A certain class of people regularly have children for the sole purpose of raising their income - if I remember rightly, you have one every 3 years for optimal gain. This is no way for a child to be brought into the world! We'll end up being overridden with the takers of this world if we aren't careful. And what happens when a country full of needy, whinging takers all screaming and bawling for the last few pennies - what happens when the money totally runs out as no-one is bothering to work anymore because it doesn't seem to pay?

The collaspe occurs and then the hunt begins, whereby I stalk such people and their children with a bow in the Zimbabwe aftermath economy.

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haha typical tory/right wing crap.

It is a human right to have kids, tough, make the system serve the people not the other way around.

wealth redistribution is the only way, tax Cameron until he leaves the country.

tax the billionaires until they leave, who cares, the kids are the future not the miserable old buggers counting their money.

Jesus H Christ, now I've heard it all :rolleyes:.

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Totally agree. However, it's just words, what the f4ck is Cameron really going to do about it? Especially in a country that has few factories for the ill-educated to work in. Feck all, that's what. The hand outs will keep coming until the whole country goes broke. End of.

Large and bloody infantry war with China designed to maximise casulties on both sides..... whereby they agree before hand to limit it to conventional weapons and not go total war. An infantry rush every few hours with a break at midday to bulldozer the corpses into the Taiwan Strait.

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Dave could say this about a lot of things. Perhaps Dave should be saying that people ought not to buy a house before they can afford to, or a car, or a big TV or new kitchen etc.

I wonder why he isn't and why he's focusing on this?

Good point!

Then he should get on to -

1. Outlaw the banksters looting the public through servitude

2. Stop handing out cheap currency to those who have little/no intention of ever paying it back

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Bonkers.

Raise taxes , bring in new charges and 'green' levies , forment a debt/housing bubble and then rub salt into the wound of young aspiring people who want what the boomers had (affordable education and housing with decent wage and job prospects)

If he wants people to be able to afford kids he needs to LOWER TAXES , cut red tape , shrink the size of government and give the middle finger to the EUSSR/UN.

Either that or just bring in more 3rd world immigrants.I know what my money is om.

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haha typical tory/right wing crap.

It is a human right to have kids, tough, make the system serve the people not the other way around.

wealth redistribution is the only way, tax Cameron until he leaves the country.

tax the billionaires until they leave, who cares, the kids are the future not the miserable old buggers counting their money.

Are you real? :blink: Or, are you Ed Balls drinking mate? You should have lived in the 1950s, if you could not keep your children then Hey Ho off to Australia they would go.

I was once an absolute Democrat but the abuse I have seen the past 15 years has made me not a right wing Tory but just against the ****takers who have ruined this country.

Not to worry if they can`t keep them they can go back to work and let their BBs parent look after them gratis. ;)

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2002195/David-Cameron-Families-children-afford-it.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

David Cameron courted controversy today by talking about families who had children before they could afford to support them.
The Prime Minister said he was determined to 'change values' in Britain so that hard-working families would be rewarded.

This govenment is out of touch not just with the electorate but with any sense of humanity.

If its to expensive for normal "HWF" to have kids its too expenive. Regime change please.

Perhaps if your on min wage you should only be permitted one child, any additional children could be confiscated by the state.

If your on, say 50 grand you should be permitted two children. Obviously if one parent is made redundant in this situation the state should confiscate any additional children that are now unaffordable.

If you are suddenly widdowed and become unable to work through your grief, then all children should be confiscated by the state.

Don't laugh, the psycopaths at the top have probably already thought of this.

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