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Care Home Charges Taxpayer £3,500 Per Week Per Patient

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And yet the carers aren't paid much above the minimum wage.

Sounds like a scam to me.

No, it's called the wealth creating private sector. Profit maximisation. Simples.

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IIRC That's 3* more expensive than an NHS bed.

No wonder the care company that I work for wants to get into this field.

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Must be mistyped. Even £350/week seems high. No way we're paying best part of 200k/year per person. Not possible.

no, I know specialist homes charging up to 5 grand a week for challenging clients.

Staff get the crap slapped out of them, dinners thrown over them and constant verbal abuse for typically £6.50 ph including shift allowances and the possibility of getting arrested if their practice raises concern.

And the reason so many immigrants are employed is not because Brits arn't prepared to do the work, but the employers arn't prepared to give basic training to Brits when they can get 'experienced' staff from Zimbabwe and the Phillipines.

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Do you need a special license or can anyone start one up?

Dunno - licenced abuse?. Doesn't seem to do anything for the vulnerable, or the costs, if one is required.

You do need a license for a dog and a tv, though. Gotta get the priorities right.

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We had no real alternative to put one of our parents into care for the remaining few weeks of her life cost over over £1000 a week

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And yet the carers aren't paid much above the minimum wage.

Sounds like a scam to me.

as far as i know this is the sort of job you might be forced to accept if you have been on the dole for too long. Not an ideal way to find dedicated staff.

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My family are looking into Residential Care for my father who has very recently been diagnosed with dementia. His property will fund circa £500k of care... sounds alot until you stack up the stats against this.

I'm royally stuffed in my old age, my mortgaged property is worth barely a 1/3rd of that and I have £10 to my names, a decimated private pension and 30 more years of work ahead of me :(

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My family are looking into Residential Care for my father who has very recently been diagnosed with dementia. His property will fund circa £500k of care... sounds alot until you stack up the stats against this.

I'm royally stuffed in my old age, my mortgaged property is worth barely a 1/3rd of that and I have £10 to my names, a decimated private pension and 30 more years of work ahead of me :(

Trickle down wealth (aka inheritance) is a thing of the past. The government takes part in death duties (death tax) and the scammers get the rest with care homes etc. In many Eurpean countries eldder care is seen as a responsibility for the family.

The system is designed to rob everyone of everything unless you are part of the top 1%. Welcome back to traditional Britain and the class system reprised.

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(...) His property will fund circa £500k of care... (...)

Firstly, my sympathies for the sad situation.

On the economic and housing aspect of it (linking this thread with this forum's section's topic), since similar situations are probably common nowadays, with many other families, many children will not inheriting properties from their parents any more. What are the impact of it on the property market?

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<snip> In many Eurpean countries eldder care is seen as a responsibility for the family.

This is sometimes a legal responsibility.

In a discussion of welfare state profiles, it is also important to remember that in many European countries, individuals are obliged by law to support parents and/or adult children. Among the countries included in GGP [Generations and Gender Programme], Norway stands out as the only country with no such obligations (see table 1 in the introduction). The Dutch are responsible for adult children by law, but not for parents. In France and Bulgaria, legal obligations towards adult children are restricted to the education period. The French are also responsible for parents, but this is not the case for Bulgarians. Legal obligations in Germany and Romania go both ways – up generations, towards parents, and down generations, towards adult children. Finally, in Russia and Georgia, adult children are legally responsible for their parents, but parents are not responsible for their adult children.

http://www.multilinks-project.eu/uploads/papers/0000/0038/herlofson_deliverable.pdf

Whole document is very interesting.

There are, of course, different laws on inheritance in different countries. You have to wriggle pretty hard to get out of family members inheriting specific proportions of your estate automatically in France and Spain, for instance. Probably other countries, also, but those are the two I know of.

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no, I know specialist homes charging up to 5 grand a week for challenging clients.

Staff get the crap slapped out of them, dinners thrown over them and constant verbal abuse for typically £6.50 ph including shift allowances and the possibility of getting arrested if their practice raises concern.

And the reason so many immigrants are employed is not because Brits arn't prepared to do the work, but the employers arn't prepared to give basic training to Brits when they can get 'experienced' staff from Zimbabwe and the Phillipines.

Tim Yeo (Conservative Suffolk South) is on a Govt board for 'Charity Reform'

had at least two instances of charging £1200 p.hr? to a nursing home (charity/Trust?) he is/was director/of

I don't know the full details but its an eye opener to the parasites sucking the money out of them - cos as said previously it isn't the care workers on minimum wages!

(registered on Parliamentary external income declaration (which has mysteriously now been removed from what I can see on the lists available) but on HPC on one of my posts a few months ago

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Phillip Hammond, Transport Secretary in old money is the "beneficiary of a trust which owns a controlling interest in Castlemead Ltd, a company engaged in construction, housebuilding and property development." (from www.theyworkforyou.com). Castlemead Care has over 15 years experience in providing state of the art facilities to the primary and community healthcare sectors. (from www.castlemead-ltd.co.uk). Perhaps that state of the art healthcare facility we saw on Panorama last night was one of theirs?

Hammond's wealth is estimated at £7.5m or £9m (from wikipedia).

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Must be mistyped. Even £350/week seems high. No way we're paying best part of 200k/year per person. Not possible.

pent up demand?

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I'm royally stuffed in my old age, my mortgaged property is worth barely a 1/3rd of that and I have £10 to my names, a decimated private pension and 30 more years of work ahead of me :(

Our retirement will probably look something like this:

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If someone is that f---ed up that they need £3,500 a week in care.. its time to pull the plug, give the needle, kick out the legs, etc..

If I was say solidly middle class and had £400,000 in equity I would not screw over my kids by going into a home for the last few years of my life and burning through that. I would take the proud way out.. I wouldnt' want to live like that anyway.

We have to learn to say no.. whether it is severely premature babies, elderly people with no mind left, drug addicts, etc.

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My family are looking into Residential Care for my father who has very recently been diagnosed with dementia. His property will fund circa £500k of care... sounds alot until you stack up the stats against this.

I'm royally stuffed in my old age, my mortgaged property is worth barely a 1/3rd of that and I have £10 to my names, a decimated private pension and 30 more years of work ahead of me :(

My sympathies.

I have a friend whose mother has dementia. It is so bad that she is (has been assessed as) not suitable to go into a home because she doesn't remember that she has moved and continually "escapes" and goes back to her old house.

This is making careing for her exceptionally difficult.

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Yes, £3,500 Per Patient, Per Week!

Multiply that by the number of patients in the country!

The thing is that once the government has introduced even more training, regulation and pathetically inadequate well paid regulators, the cost will be even higher. But the problem will persist because those in-charge taking the big money are never held to account for their actions, its just the thugs that carry out the beatings that will be punished.

People should really watch the documentary

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011pwt6/Panorama_Undercover_Care_The_Abuse_Exposed/

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