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What a scumbag.

I passed by a protestor in Edinburgh at the weekend... some Muslim woman shouting about stopping the evil Tory cuts! I couldn't believe it - my girlfriend had to pull me away but not before I shouted that they were Labour cuts.

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He's on BBC News now, complaining about how difficult it is for the young to buy a house :rolleyes:.

I'm speechless, who do these Labour morons think they are :angry:.

Wasn't difficult for him and his brother to build up a property portfolio while in office. I hope the BBC interviewer mentioned this. No?

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He's on BBC News now, complaining about how difficult it is for the young to buy a house :rolleyes:.

I'm speechless, who do these Labour morons think they are :angry:.

Any policies?

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They are trying to sucker the Students and the Younger generations.

His father must be turning in his grave at the Neo Corporatist state his sons helped create.

If Labour try to dissavow responsibility, we should all go into blogging overtime....On every site possible.

Edited by Dan1

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http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/edward_miliband/doncaster_north#register

And thank god he had no hand in the last govt that created the problems

Other offices held in the past

Secretary of State, Department of Energy and Climate Change (13 Oct 2009 to 11 May 2010)

Secretary of State, Department for Energy and Climate Change (6 Oct 2008 to 13 Oct 2009)

Minister of State, Cabinet Office (28 Jun 2007 to 6 Oct 2008)

Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Cabinet Office (16 Jan 2007 to 28 Jun 2007)

Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office (25 Oct 2006 to 16 Jan 2007)

Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Cabinet Office (8 May 2006 to 25 Oct 2006)

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http://www.theyworkf..._north#register

And thank god he had no hand in the last govt that created the problems

Other offices held in the past

Secretary of State, Department of Energy and Climate Change (13 Oct 2009 to 11 May 2010)

Secretary of State, Department for Energy and Climate Change (6 Oct 2008 to 13 Oct 2009)

Minister of State, Cabinet Office (28 Jun 2007 to 6 Oct 2008)

Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Cabinet Office (16 Jan 2007 to 28 Jun 2007)

Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office (25 Oct 2006 to 16 Jan 2007)

Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Cabinet Office (8 May 2006 to 25 Oct 2006)

They are extemely powerful, impressive job titles.

Unfortunately we are evolving a particular 'species' of test tube bred neophyte champagne socialists. And there are thousands behind him. Like a virus.

[Why have none of them ever had a proper job? Why are they all students, and trade union leaders. I.E. Big mouthed lazy self important shisters?]

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It is a curious thing how one politician can be referred to as a "red" socialist, and a neo-con privatizing b***ard all on one thread.

Edited by mel in w9

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Well Labour didn't try to stop the house price bubble while they were in power, they actively encouraged it.....they now have a cheek trying to gain support and favor from the very same people that they stole future financial security away from. :ph34r:

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They are extemely powerful, impressive job titles.

Unfortunately we are evolving a particular 'species' of test tube bred neophyte champagne socialists. And there are thousands behind him. Like a virus.

[Why have none of them ever had a proper job? Why are they all students, and trade union leaders. I.E. Big mouthed lazy self important shisters?]

Looks like in the near future there will be a whole lot more like him though. Google "common purpose". It's like labour created their own fifth columnists.

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It is a curious thing how one politician can be referred to as a "red" socialist, and a neo-con privatizing b***ard all on one thread.

all politicians are two faced.

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These are the best comedy threads on HPC. Somebody moans about Labour and then the thread is flooded with ranters seeking to reinforce and validate their hatred. Before long somebody will be moaning about having to pay taxes, or moaning about benefit scroungers, or about how all the problems we have now suddenly appeared in the last 13 years or so, or the state is too big, or longing for austerity. And then more people will post to agree. Then everybody will feel all nice and better, because they hate someone and somebody else agrees with them. In a strange way it's almost like a kind of a religion.

Shame it adds very little to the debate. Can anybody not see the importance and significance of the opposition (no matter how they fecked it up in the past) actually taking the government to task about house prices? Or would people rather they said nothing ;)

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Did anyone catch Steve Norris and Ken Livingstone on LBC radio, about 11 am on Saturday morning? Can anyone post a linky?

Basically they were briefly agreeing about how senior politicos on both sides are mostly good decent people trying to promote what they think will be best for the populace. Except Ed Balls. It was a PMSL/Polaroid moment, but sadly I was driving the car at the time.

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....easy to criticise what others do...not so easy to criticise what you have done to create problems that have now got to be solved.....even worse, criticism without having any solutions.....anyone can do that. ;)

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It is a curious thing how one politician can be referred to as a "red" socialist, and a neo-con privatizing b***ard all on one thread.

Maybe I missed it but I see no reference to neo-conservatism in the thread before your post. Someone mentioned 'neo-corporatist' but that's not the same thing as 'neo-conservative. The clue being they're different words

So the answer to your question is he hasn't been

But, as it happens, neo-conservativism has its roots in the authoritarian left so there wouldn't be that much of a contradiction even if he had

Edited by Charlton Peston

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These are the best comedy threads on HPC. Somebody moans about Labour and then the thread is flooded with ranters seeking to reinforce and validate their hatred. Before long somebody will be moaning about having to pay taxes, or moaning about benefit scroungers, or about how all the problems we have now suddenly appeared in the last 13 years or so, or the state is too big, or longing for austerity. And then more people will post to agree. Then everybody will feel all nice and better, because they hate someone and somebody else agrees with them. In a strange way it's almost like a kind of a religion.

Shame it adds very little to the debate. Can anybody not see the importance and significance of the opposition (no matter how they fecked it up in the past) actually taking the government to task about house prices? Or would people rather they said nothing ;)

I don't blame labour completely as there were problems before them but they reinforced the issues already arising and did nothing to prevent it.

House prices were pretty sensible in 1997, after 10 years of labour look what happened to house prices.

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It is a curious thing how one politician can be referred to as a "red" socialist, and a neo-con privatizing b***ard all on one thread.

Neo-corporatism [or New Fascism] is a modern version of state corporatism which emerged in the late 19th century in authoritarian systems and had several manifestations in the first half of the 20th century—for example, in Adolf Hitler's Germany and Francisco Franco's Spain. Neo-corporatism is the opposing tendency (even polemically) to neo-liberalism.

Early concepts of corporatism have been traced back to ideas found in Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany.

The essence of the theory is that major industrial institutions, and especially corporations, have now entered into a very close alliance with the state, especially with the civil service. Instead of the state controlling and organizing industry as though the corporations were passive, they are seen as being necessary partners.

One of the most prominent forms of corporatism is a tripartite system, involving negotiations between business, labour, and state interest groups to set economic policy. A method preferred by italian fascist groups. [and new Labour funnily enough]

[The most notable charcteristic of a fascist ideology, being the seperation and persecution of one section of a society at the expense of another

If I speculate on an investement,a share for instance, and it falls, the government will not socialize my losses.

So why is it ok, to bail out investors who speculate in housing? Its not.]

It shows our government and banking system for what it is. Completely corrupt. Downright evil in fact. It's economic fascism.

In the Planned economy. The government controls and regulates production, distribution, prices, etc. They Compel. The Planned economy, is a direct contrast to the democratic model, of the 'Market Economy'

The implication for those who use the idea as a criticism of modern political systems is that the spirit of Italian fascism, where industry was directly represented in a legislative chamber, is rising again, or has occured, with the state becoming no more than a servant to sectional industrial interests.

I.E The Banking Industry.

It takes a crisis to show that all political philosophies, are reduced to the lowest common denominator.By mutual consent, all Political Parties are corrupt. Because Money corrupts all politicial philosophies.

The Tories/New Labour are both NEO CORPORATISTS.

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
Edited by Dan1

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These are the best comedy threads on HPC. Somebody moans about Labour and then the thread is flooded with ranters seeking to reinforce and validate their hatred. Before long somebody will be moaning about having to pay taxes, or moaning about benefit scroungers, or about how all the problems we have now suddenly appeared in the last 13 years or so, or the state is too big, or longing for austerity. And then more people will post to agree. Then everybody will feel all nice and better, because they hate someone and somebody else agrees with them. In a strange way it's almost like a kind of a religion.

Shame it adds very little to the debate. Can anybody not see the importance and significance of the opposition (no matter how they fecked it up in the past) actually taking the government to task about house prices? Or would people rather they said nothing ;)

I agree, but we need accountability. Politicians need to hold their hands up, admit their mistakes and offer solutions. E Milliband isn't responsible for 13 years of labour housing policy, but if he now identifies there's a problem let's hear what he would do about it. I suspect he would propose more debt slavery for the young but without a policy he is opposing simply because he is in opposition. It would also be nice if the journalists would challenge him on this.

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Shame it adds very little to the debate. Can anybody not see the importance and significance of the opposition (no matter how they fecked it up in the past) actually taking the government to task about house prices? Or would people rather they said nothing ;)

I'm of the opinion that the opposition should have some ******ing clue what reality looks like.

When some muppet starts saying 'oooh look house prices are high, i wonder how that suddenly happened, it must have been them nasty tories wot done it'...... and has been in parliament for too many years and not mentioned it, i think he needs turning into glue.

I'd love it if politics was less about soundbites and party politic mentalities. But it isn't. In the absense of any actual desire to work for the greater good, what i'd like to see is useful commentary on current plans offering realistic/better alternatives. Not pounding the table about how all cuts are bad, and to just vote labour and they'll sort it out magically without anyone losing anything ever (and they'll tell you how after you've voted for them).

Or to put it shortly, i fail to see how this opposition adds anything of importance or significance to the debate.

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Behold the wonders of 10 years of labour:

Paul Holmes operations director - Firstrung:

"We commissioned a report attempting to dispel a few myths regarding the divergence between first time buyer salaries and average salaries over the past ten years. Even we were shocked with the results. Using official Government statistics the results illustrate that first time buyer affordability has in fact reduced by close on 46% over the past decade.

In 1997 the average salary was £16,666 according to the ONS.

The average first time buyer mortgage advance was then £41,800 according to the CML who estimated that first time buyers earned £18,080 in 1997.

"Although differing from the official ONS figures this was only a 8% discrepancy and suggests the first time buyer mortgage multiple in 1997 was in a range of 2.3 - 2.5. times salary"

Fast forward to 2006 and a completely different picture emerges:

"Using the same analysis a very different picture emerges highlighting the problems of affordability faced by first time buyers in the current housing market. In 2006 the average median wage (according to the ONS) was £23,249.

Yet the CML has the average salary as £33,977.

Whilst the CML figure reflects the evidence of those who can afford to take the first step onto the property ladder, the discrepancy between the ONS statistics and the CML has risen to 46% in relation to average median wages, representing the largest difference in our study.

(thanks to Dan1 for the quote)

Would it have been the same under the Tories? Maybe, but you can't argue against the hypocrisy of red millipede.

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