interestrateripoff Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 http://www.zerohedge.com/article/iceland-grimsvotn-volcano-has-erupted From MSNBC: BREAKING NEWS: Iceland's most active volcano erupting; white plume up to 18,000 feet seen.And there goes European air traffic once again, with its already stagflationary economy to follow down the drains momentarily. At least depressionary apologists will have something to blame on the Q2 GDP plunge on. More: Iceland's most active volcano started erupting Saturday, with a white plume shooting 18,000 feet into the sky, scientists said. The eruption was followed by around 50 small earthquakes, the largest of which measured 3.7 on the Richter Scale, according to Iceland's meteorological office. There was a similar eruption at the same volcano in 2004. The Grimsvotn volcano is located underneath the Vatnajokull glacier in southeast Iceland. So will European airspace end up getting closed down again? Probably not as the last time it erupted nothing too serious happened and passenger jets fly well above 18,000 feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHERWICK Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 http://www.zerohedge...ano-has-erupted So will European airspace end up getting closed down again? Probably not as the last time it erupted nothing too serious happened and passenger jets fly well above 18,000 feet. Here we go again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simples Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) Which way is the wind blowing? Sat view of initial plume: http://www.sat24.com/?culture=en Edited May 21, 2011 by Simples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionTerror Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 http://www.icelandreview.com/icelandreview/daily_news/A_Volcanic_Eruption_has_started_in_Iceland_0_378069.news.aspx Geologists have been expecting an eruption in Grímsvötn this year and hence the eruption will not be a surprise. Sveinbjörnsson said that a flood in Skeidarársandur was to be expected following an eruption. Before any further predictions would be made on a flood, the exact location of the eruption would have to be figured out. The public safety commission has been notified. “We have sent a warning to England so that flight routs can be adjusted if necessary.” Eruptions in Grímsvötn are quite frequent, every ten years on the average and are generally short and small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Of Highbridge Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 BBC News reports May house hunting subdued due to Icelandic volcano ash clouds disrupting buyers. Read all about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvenal Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 BBC News reports May house hunting subdued due to Icelandic volcano ash clouds disrupting buyers. Read all about it... EA's from Maidstone to Reykjavic said "If it's not one f***ing thing, it's another..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantnrave Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 BBC News reports May house hunting subdued due to Icelandic volcano ash clouds disrupting buyers. Read all about it... A couple of months earlier and all that hot air might have melted the snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 BBC News reports May house hunting subdued due to Icelandic volcano ash clouds disrupting buyers. Read all about it... Strangely volcano won't be interupting potential tenants looking for rented property, say letting agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormymonday_2011 Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) Some links and pictures http://bigthink.com/ideas/38526#comments Plume already visible on satellite and at height to impact air travel Watch the satellite trace here and you can see it appear suddenly between 21:00 and 22:00 Norwegian time http://www.yr.no/satellitt/europa_animasjon.html Edited May 21, 2011 by stormymonday_2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantnrave Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Still, good to know Iceland is still able to export something these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 FK, I knew that I should have booked with my credit card :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicestersq Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Eerie. Wasn't the start of the end of the world supposed to happen today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RufflesTheGuineaPig Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 So will European airspace end up getting closed down again? Probably not as the last time it erupted nothing too serious happened and passenger jets fly well above 18,000 feet.Yes. You get on that flight. Good luck with that.Eerie. Wasn't the start of the end of the world supposed to happen today? Yes. And another minor eruption during a sismically active period is obvious a sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shindigger Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Some links and pictures http://bigthink.com/ideas/38526#comments Plume already visible on satellite and at height to impact air travel Watch the satellite trace here and you can see it appear suddenly between 21:00 and 22:00 Norwegian time http://www.yr.no/satellitt/europa_animasjon.html Is it contained? It doesn't look contained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erranta Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 BBC News reports May house hunting subdued due to Icelandic volcano Ash clouds disrupting buyers. Read all about it... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_ichikawa Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 ? Erm its the BBC state propaganda blaming everything but the actual causes. Snow in winter caused record bad sales for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erranta Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Eerie. Wasn't the start of the end of the world supposed to happen today? Eerie is a Scottish Eagle's nest! And Scientists have Equipment/sensors that supposedly can sense a volcanic erruption days/weeks in advance too! Why not this one? News released on 22.5.11 NASA Sensors Providing Rapid Estimates of Iceland Volcano Emissions04.07.10A NASA research team is using the latest advances in satellite artificial intelligence to speed up estimates of the heat and volume of lava escaping from an erupting volcano in Iceland. On March 20, 2010, Iceland's Eyjafjallajökull volcano (pronounced "Aya-fyatla-jo-kutl,") awakened for the first time in 120 years, spewing still-active lava fountains and flows. That day, a NASA "sensor web" -- a network of sensors on the ground and aboard NASA's Earth Observing-1 satellite, alerted researchers to this new volcanic "hot spot." The eruption was detected by autonomous "sciencecraft" software aboard the satellite, which is known as EO-1. Sciencecraft software enables the spacecraft to analyze science data onboard to detect scientific events and respond by sending alerts, producing scientific products and/or re-imaging the event. The software is typically able to notify researchers on the ground within 90 minutes of detecting events, and then rapidly sets up the satellite to observe them. In the case of the Iceland volcanic event, EO-1 was able to take advantage of recently uploaded "smart" software that allows the spacecraft to react quickly to an event and to rapidly downlink the data for processing by ground personnel in less than 24 hours. That process used to take three weeks for researchers working manually. The artificial intelligence software directed EO-1's Hyperion and Advanced Land Imager instruments to target the volcano on its next passes over Iceland, which occurred on March 24, 29 and 30. After image data were transmitted to a ground station at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., computers automatically analyzed them and created maps and estimates of heat loss and eruption flow rate. "Use of autonomous systems in this way represents a new way of doing science, where spacecraft can think for themselves and react to dynamic and often transient events," explained Ashley Davies, lead scientist for NASA's New Millennium Program-Space Technology 6 Autonomous Sciencecraft Experiment at JPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urdur Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 This is the highest ashplume seen in Iceland since 1947..It's currently at 66.000 ft.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliegog Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 (edited) Eerie is a Scottish Eagle's nest! And Scientists have Equipment/sensors that supposedly can sense a volcanic erruption days/weeks in advance too! Why not this one? News released on 22.5.11 I think that is eyrie but eerie all the same - sorry to be pedantic Edited May 22, 2011 by olliegog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Didn't they suddenly find it was safe to fly through ash clouds last time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erranta Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Didn't they suddenly find it was safe to fly through ash clouds last time? The scientists sent out to test Rolls Royce guesstemate about max particle size and ash cloud density actually missed the dust cloud and failed their 'test' mission. So peoples lives are still on the line thru potential engine failure and not restarting.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generation jones Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 This blog is very good on Iceland's volcanoes http://www.jonfr.com/volcano/ and this one too - link to volcano webcams on right of screen http://bigthink.com/blogs/eruptions/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corevalue Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Eerie is a Scottish Eagle's nest! And Scientists have Equipment/sensors that supposedly can sense a volcanic erruption days/weeks in advance too! Why not this one? News released on 22.5.11 Erranta, try reading your own quotes! It doesn't say anything about prediction, just that the new space-borne systems can remotely sense and analyse the data almost in real-time, whereas before, it took three weeks or so to do the analysis. I was sat next to a vulcanologist at a dinner the other day. His field of study was the path taken by lava flows; as for prediction of eruptions, he said they have absolutely no idea. All guesswork, other than the historical periodicity of the events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormymonday_2011 Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 (edited) Didn't they suddenly find it was safe to fly through ash clouds last time? Wrong kind of ash? From what I am reading on the volcano blogs Grimsvotn normally produces heavy coarse ash that rarely blows far beyond Iceland. They do add the caveat that ash types can change within and between eruptions so nothing is certain. The size of the plume suggests this is a major eruption by Icelandic standards. Edited May 22, 2011 by stormymonday_2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashConnoisseur Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 Didn't they suddenly find it was safe to fly through ash clouds last time? Recently published research has validated the imposition of the no-fly zone... 'Novel Ash Analysis Validates Volcano No-Fly Zones' [April 2011]: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110426091124.htm Grounding planes proven to be well foundedVolcanic ash could crash planes if the particles are small enough to travel high and far, if they are sharp enough to sandblast the windows and bodies of airplanes, or if they melt inside jet engines. The ash from the Eyjafjallajökull eruption was dangerous on all counts, so the authorities certainly made the right decision in April 2010. That's one conclusion from the Copenhagen/Iceland paper but Professor Stipp thinks the team's most important contribution is a method for quickly assessing future ash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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