interestrateripoff Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/exclusive-the-great-university-clearance-sale-2282713.html Next year's university applications could be thrown into chaos after the minister in charge suggested students could get a cut-price degree at the last minute.The Universities minister, David Willetts, said in an interview with The Independent that universities would be allowed to slash fees or offer other incentives only weeks before lectures begin, to fill courses during the clearing process. It raises the prospect of students holding off from accepting places and a mad scramble for the cheapest courses, as universities lower fees to attract students. I was expecting pay your year 1 and 2 year fees get the 3rd free type deals, looks like that is what will happen but only on the courses that aren't popular and at the Universities no one wants to attend. Although will this be enough to save the likes of Leeds Met? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Einstein71 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 So you could get people in a lecture theatre who are paying £7000 and others who only paid £3000. Surely that would create major resentment amongst students? This is starting to sound like Budget Airlines !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ingermany Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 So you could get people in a lecture theatre who are paying £7000 and others who only paid £3000. or nothing at all if their parents live in Scotland Quote Link to post Share on other sites
winkie Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 So you could get people in a lecture theatre who are paying £7000 and others who only paid £3000. Surely that would create major resentment amongst students? This is starting to sound like Budget Airlines !!! ...I'm sure the foreign students won't mind paying more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rw42 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Erm how does that tie in with the narrative about the increase in tuition fees being down to increased course costs? Do the lecturers reduce their pay when no one signs up on the same scale? ;p Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_w_ Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 http://www.independe...le-2282713.html I was expecting pay your year 1 and 2 year fees get the 3rd free type deals, looks like that is what will happen but only on the courses that aren't popular and at the Universities no one wants to attend. Although will this be enough to save the likes of Leeds Met? What a farce! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
winkie Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Erm how does that tie in with the narrative about the increase in tuition fees being down to increased course costs? Do the lecturers reduce their pay when no one signs up on the same scale? ;p What is stopping a private entity for quality training teaching the skills of the future, linked to well known reputable employers in the area to provide the employees with the skills they are short of...say fees £3000 per year three days study two days work experience...with a high chance of a job at the end of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MC Fur Q Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 So you could get people in a lecture theatre who are paying £7000 and others who only paid £3000. Surely that would create major resentment amongst students? This is starting to sound like Budget Airlines !!! Sounds like Money Supermarket need to get a degree search page written Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cashinmattress Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) I think you will see a lot of universities and colleges within common geographical regions buying each other out and creating super-sized Uni's. There is just not enough money in it for what is a ridiculous number of 'universities' in Britain, which tops 300 in number, and who knows how many colleges. That is what I would call a very feasible rumour, from the horses mouth (a Dr I will not name). Edited May 12, 2011 by cashinmattress Quote Link to post Share on other sites
interestrateripoff Posted May 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I think you will see a lot of universities and colleges within common geographical regions buying each other out and creating super-sized Uni's. There is just not enough money in it for what is a ridiculous number of 'universities' in Britain, which tops 300 in number, and who knows how many colleges. That is what I would call a very feasible rumour, from the horses mouth (a Dr I will not name). Excellent and the bankers can all take their cut merging the businesses and giving advice...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oh Well :( Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 David Willetts is a knob. He seems to be one of those people who got an undeserved reputation for being clever - hence "two brains". Actually he is a dullard and not as funny as Peter Sellers in"BeingThere". I am sure he has never done anything as useful as gardening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name=Oh Well ' timestamp='1305231555' post='2985711] David Willetts is a knob. He seems to be one of those people who got an undeserved reputation for being clever - hence "two brains". Actually he is a dullard and not as funny as Peter Sellers in"BeingThere". I am sure he has never done anything as useful as gardening. It's far worse. You should read his book called "The Pinch" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
howarden Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 http://www.independe...le-2282713.html I was expecting pay your year 1 and 2 year fees get the 3rd free type deals, looks like that is what will happen but only on the courses that aren't popular and at the Universities no one wants to attend. Although will this be enough to save the likes of Leeds Met? It's all going to plan though, undersubscribed courses and unpopular universities will have to close unless they're really cheap. The government couldn't face the prospect of having bureaucrats determine which courses stay or go, so they got students to choose instead. 5 years from now I'd expect much fewer people going to University and those that do will only choose courses that are likely to lead to improved employment prospects unless the course is really cheap. I think this is a good idea, University is a very expensive way to prepare the next generation of workers and should only really be used where it is the most efficient method. I'd like to see the institutions that can't survive as Universities restructure quickly to provide more appropriate services than 3 year full-time courses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
porca misèria Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 What is stopping a private entity for quality training teaching the skills of the future, linked to well known reputable employers in the area to provide the employees with the skills they are short of...say fees £3000 per year three days study two days work experience...with a high chance of a job at the end of it. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4fd0a6bc-07a2-11e0-a568-00144feabdc0.html A good company, too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
enrieb Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Are the tuition fees actually paying for the cost of tuition or are they being used to pay for the PFI schemes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RufflesTheGuineaPig Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Are the tuition fees actually paying for the cost of tuition or are they being used to pay for the PFI schemes? No, Pension liabilites left over from when the boomers had their free uni. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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