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Got stuck on the A31 in Dorset today - woman jumped from a bridge onto the eastbound dual carriageway at 4:30am. Struck by a vehicle when she landed. Awful death.

The road was closed immediately. I came along at 9am, 3 mile traffic jam took 80 mins to get through. The road was still closed at lunchtime.

I'm at a loss to understand why the police would keep a major road closed for that length of time. I assumed they were investigating on suspicion of murder, but the newspaper reports make it clear she was seen jumping on her own. Something similar on a railway line would be dealt with in a few hours at most.

I've googled about, found no explanation - and I know you lot are full of obscure insights.

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Because suicides from jumping are not like the movies, people really do splat and body parts become detached. Also with dead bodies it isn't simply a case of get a big spatula and scrape them off the road.

Human remains are considered a biological hazard for good reason to what with tons of diseases floating around. Thus you need specialist teams to clean up the remains and to decontaminate the area. Cars going over unclean patches can spread any contaminants in the corpse. Hell I ran over a rabbit once on Strines moor, I found lots of blood in my front mud guard.

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Because suicides from jumping are not like the movies, people really do splat and body parts become detached. Also with dead bodies it isn't simply a case of get a big spatula and scrape them off the road.

Human remains are considered a biological hazard for good reason to what with tons of diseases floating around. Thus you need specialist teams to clean up the remains and to decontaminate the area. Cars going over unclean patches can spread any contaminants in the corpse. Hell I ran over a rabbit once on Strines moor, I found lots of blood in my front mud guard.

There are about 5 different images here which I wish I could unthink.....

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Because suicides from jumping are not like the movies, people really do splat and body parts become detached. Also with dead bodies it isn't simply a case of get a big spatula and scrape them off the road.

Human remains are considered a biological hazard for good reason to what with tons of diseases floating around. Thus you need specialist teams to clean up the remains and to decontaminate the area. Cars going over unclean patches can spread any contaminants in the corpse. Hell I ran over a rabbit once on Strines moor, I found lots of blood in my front mud guard.

I understand the horrible impact, but 9 hours to clear the destruction?

I'm wondering if police protocol on road incidents is different to railway incidents. To be honest, I spent alot of time listening to a crap radio station for traffic updates, and my steering wheel got punched about a bit. So I need closure on this experience.

Not getting into the comparison between humans and roadkill. The logic would be ... distasteful.

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I think it is good that in our country the loss of a Human life is so thoroughly investigated.

To add to the other comments, perhaps they had to wait until it was light, perhaps they then needed specialists to arrive on the scene.

I suspect they had to investigate whether it was a murder - pushed rather than jumped.

I fee very sorry for her, for the drivers who drove over her and the people who had to investigate the scene. It is a tragedy that any Human Being gets so isolated, lonely and desperate that he or she takes their own life.

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That driver will never forget that experience...Its like when a tube driver hits someone falling off the platform...they often need months of counselling..

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A friend who lived in london for a while reckoned someone died on the Tube tracks almost every day. Especially during the 'crunch.' Some jumped, some possibly pushed?!?!

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Got stuck on the A31 in Dorset today - woman jumped from a bridge onto the eastbound dual carriageway at 4:30am. Struck by a vehicle when she landed. Awful death.

HPC Hints and Tips, don't go for lane 1 thinking the the HGV will end it all, they have really good brakes and you end up with 2 broken legs.

I'm at a loss to understand why the police would keep a major road closed for that length of time. I assumed they were investigating on suspicion of murder, but the newspaper reports make it clear she was seen jumping on her own. Something similar on a railway line would be dealt with in a few hours at most.

Seen by who, the person who pushed her :) and nope to the railway, the last person who used the gatwick express for this purpose apparently left a "splash" along the whole train and parts absolutely everywhere.

P.S Suicides come in threes, expect more on the same road.

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Seen by who, the person who pushed her :) and nope to the railway, the last person who used the gatwick express for this purpose apparently left a "splash" along the whole train and parts absolutely everywhere.

P.S Suicides come in threes, expect more on the same road.

Agree, always a rush to a clean up before the magpies and foxes get a tasty morsel. It's a shame in a civilised society, humans decide on a horrific end. Helium would be my end of life choice if required, google Dr Philip Nitschke.

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I did once witness someone jump in front of a high speed train passing at full speed while I was waiting on the platform. This was at about 4pm and the station remined closed for the rest of the day (after giving a statement to the police I had to spend the following night in a local hotel). Therefore I'm not totally convinced about the suggestion that railways tend to be closed for shorter periods than roads following such an incident. I do agree that the police tend to close roads for ridiclously long times following minor accidents and incidents (e.g. rear-endings that don't even cause any injuries), presumably to gather all the evidence needed to satisfy insurers and ambulance-chasing lawyers; but I can understand why they need to be closed for quite some time following an incident that causes death and/or serious injury.

From personal experience, I can second others' comments that the sight of a human body after it's been hit by a fast-moving vehicle bears little resemblance to its representation in film and TV. Having seen the real thing is a big part of the reason why I don't use trains if I can possibly avoid it, despite the irrationality of that (because rail travel is a lot safer than road).

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Network rail have a system to record delay minutes, bonuses depend on meeting these. Compensation for the delay minutes is also paid to toc's in suicide events as.it is considered NR are best placed to prevent them.

NR have financial motives for doing it quickly and often end up in conflict with police who couldn't give a toss.

Who loses when a road is closed?

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There are about 5 different images here which I wish I could unthink.....

I investigated a fatality at a riding stables - a woman was kicked in the head by a horse and was almost decapitated. Gruesome and every since I have stayed well clear of equine posteriors.

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Helium would be my end of life choice if required.

The film 'Hot Shots' was on Film 4 this evening. There is a film in it where Charlie Sheen inhales helium before talking.

I was surprised to see subtitles appear warning of the life-threatening dangers of inhaling helium - seen the film countless times before and never saw it with those subtitles.

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The film 'Hot Shots' was on Film 4 this evening. There is a film in it where Charlie Sheen inhales helium before talking.

I was surprised to see subtitles appear warning of the life-threatening dangers of inhaling helium - seen the film countless times before and never saw it with those subtitles.

Predator at 9pm was so much better.

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Helium would be my end of life choice if required,

Go out on a high ?

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I think it is good that in our country the loss of a Human life is so thoroughly investigated.

To add to the other comments, perhaps they had to wait until it was light, perhaps they then needed specialists to arrive on the scene.

I suspect they had to investigate whether it was a murder - pushed rather than jumped.

I fee very sorry for her, for the drivers who drove over her and the people who had to investigate the scene. It is a tragedy that any Human Being gets so isolated, lonely and desperate that he or she takes their own life.

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I think it is good that in our country the loss of a Human life is so thoroughly investigated.

To add to the other comments, perhaps they had to wait until it was light, perhaps they then needed specialists to arrive on the scene.

I suspect they had to investigate whether it was a murder - pushed rather than jumped.

I fee very sorry for her, for the drivers who drove over her and the people who had to investigate the scene. It is a tragedy that any Human Being gets so isolated, lonely and desperate that he or she takes their own life.

Yes. But why a 9 hour closure?

Thanks for all the comments.

Once again HPC delivers obscure insights, weird humour ... and no answer!

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Yes. But why a 9 hour closure?

Thanks for all the comments.

Once again HPC delivers obscure insights, weird humour ... and no answer!

I reckon it is everything above I said, and that you don't get bio hazard cleaners and investigators just sat around waiting for these things to happen, not to mention they have to travel by road to the place through the traffic as well.

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I reckon it is everything above I said, and that you don't get bio hazard cleaners and investigators just sat around waiting for these things to happen, not to mention they have to travel by road to the place through the traffic as well.

Hedgefunded's answer:

Spade. Hose. Dettol.

30 mins max.

Quite simply the filth love to inconvenience motorists.

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HPC Hints and Tips, don't go for lane 1 thinking the the HGV will end it all, they have really good brakes and you end up with 2 broken legs.

Seen by who, the person who pushed her :) and nope to the railway, the last person who used the gatwick express for this purpose apparently left a "splash" along the whole train and parts absolutely everywhere.

P.S Suicides come in threes, expect more on the same road.

Remember reading about that; spectacular even by the standards of these things, by all accounts.

A guy I know who witnessed something similar said that surprisingly the smell was actually worse than the visuals - akin to an abattoir but with a discernible "human" quality. Nice.

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