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Well considering Annabel Goldie (leader of the Scottish conservative party) just lost her seat to the SNP, I would say the Tories are practically extinct in Scotland now.

It looks to me that Scotland just gave the big middle finger to Westminster. A great night for Alex Salmond and the SNP.

I smell Scottish independence in the air...

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I smell Scottish independence in the air...

I hope so. Then the rest of UK can move to European time and have nice long evenings when we get home from work whilst Scotland has it's own time zone.

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Sureley an independent Scotland would mean the end of Labour ? Seems half their party in Westminster are jocks...

(that's JOCKS with a J)

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And the Scottish oil!

I thought the North Sea was international.

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Well considering Annabel Goldie (leader of the Scottish conservative party) just lost her seat to the SNP, I would say the Tories are practically extinct in Scotland now.

Annabel wasn't a constituency member before so didn't lose her seat, she did fail to be elected as a constituency member. She was a list member before this election and may be again when the list results are worked out. The Tories will have a few seats in the new Scottish parliament, but certainly had a pretty bad result.

It looks to me that Scotland just gave the big middle finger to Westminster.

I'd like to think so.

A great night for Alex Salmond and the SNP.

Can't take that away from him and his party.

I smell Scottish independence in the air...

The SNP didn't push this over the last four years when they were the minority government. I wouldn't take this as a given.

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Remember NuLabour were forced to use the block vote from the Irn Bru swigging kilt wearers in order to impose things like tuition fees on English students, without them it would never have passed. It happened with countless other matters, like foundation hospitals in England. It looks like the West Lothian question may be answering itself.

It's the progressive minority innit. :lol:

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Labour are hopefully FINISHED now FOREVER!

(The 5-year council-tax freeze likely helped the SNP).

Before any call for independence I'd like to see financials and how we'd cope; what what happen with North Sea oil? How else can we bring money in? Hey... if we CAN'T afford it and it pushes through it can only mean cuts to excesses and being forced to live within our means - maybe that's a good thing. I don't know.

The END of Labour.

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my barnetts got a few split ends

i hope he can deliver on scottish independence. it would be good for both england and scotland to be independent. they can then fund their own schemes like free prescriptions, free university fees etc. england should also vote for independence or devolution at least so that scottish mps cannot vote on english policies. i am sure someone will say that scotland is net contributor etc etc. i dont know. but they want independence (supposedly) and i am happy if the likes of gorderon dont have any influence on my life in england. hope wales follows suit too

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And the Scottish oil!

Well, most of that has already been and gone. Add 5 more years till actual independence and most of the rest will be gone. In 20 years or so, Scotland will be an oil importer..

Which could have interesting consequences. You could easily imagine a 10-year boom following independence, suddenly turning into a nightmare as the oil ran out but entitlements stayed in place.

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i hope he can deliver on scottish independence. it would be good for both england and scotland to be independent. they can then fund their own schemes like free prescriptions, free university fees etc. england should also vote for independence or devolution at least so that scottish mps cannot vote on english policies. i am sure someone will say that scotland is net contributor etc etc. i dont know. but they want independence (supposedly) and i am happy if the likes of gorderon dont have any influence on my life in england. hope wales follows suit too

im not sure how independence could happen whilst the Scottish banks still exist, i cant see how there could ever be a politically acceptable agreement as to who was on the hook for what from either side on them. Perhaps they could use the Duckworth Lewis Formula

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Personally I think that is exactly why Salmond no longer pushes for full independence - but for 'more powers'. I think he realises what a lucky escape they had falling back on the largesse of the English taxpayer.

Having a referendum on independence in the next parliament was part of the SNP manifesto for this election.

Labour used to rely the support of working class voters. After spending 13 years undermining them, it's no surprise that they are losing support. What needs to happen now is for a new party to emerge in England. The current "big 3" are spent.

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Rather amusingly, the BBC News headline is "Lib Dems suffer election losses". I think "Labour & Lib Dems suffer losses" would have been a little bit more accurate.

Currently:

Labour -12

Lib Dems -7

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What's the Scottish time zone? 1975?

2075 house prices though.

This might be the opportunity for Scotland and England to go their own way though. I'm not opposed to it. I assume they would get most of the tax revenue from oil, however would have to support their socialist policies out if it, and take responsibility for RBS etc.. They could join the EURO and get a bail out from the ECB!

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Having a referendum on independence in the next parliament was part of the SNP manifesto for this election.

After the debacle of the AV referendum I don't think many fringe elements will be calling for new plebiscites for a while yet.

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I am an American (who's husband is Scottish), I have lived for 5 years in Scotland (Edinburgh) and the last 3 years in England (London).

The little England elitist mentality never ceases to amaze me. May I just say, Scotland is a far better "country" to live in.

Alex Salmond is a brilliant man, and I suspect a referendum on FULL independence for Scotland will be on the agenda in the next year. Personally, I think this will be wonderful for Hollyrood to be able to take control of ALL political and economic decisions. I would much rather reside in the nation where Mr. Salmond is at the helm, than the likes of Cameron/Osborne.

We are heading back to Edinburgh in July. I can't wait.

Ciao "Little" England!

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I am an American (who's husband is Scottish), I have lived for 5 years in Scotland (Edinburgh) and the last 3 years in England (London).

The little England elitist mentality never ceases to amaze me. May I just say, Scotland is a far better "country" to live in.

Alex Salmond is a brilliant man, and I suspect a referendum on FULL independence for Scotland will be on the agenda in the next year. Personally, I think this will be wonderful for Hollyrood to be able to take control of ALL political and economic decisions. I would much rather reside in the nation where Mr. Salmond is at the helm, than the likes of Cameron/Osborne.

We are heading back to Edinburgh in July. I can't wait.

Ciao "Little" England!

Spot on

The income taxes from Glasgow alone should be enough to pay for Free eductation / Health or a Twix

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I am an American (who's husband is Scottish), I have lived for 5 years in Scotland (Edinburgh) and the last 3 years in England (London).

The little England elitist mentality never ceases to amaze me. May I just say, Scotland is a far better "country" to live in.

Alex Salmond is a brilliant man, and I suspect a referendum on FULL independence for Scotland will be on the agenda in the next year. Personally, I think this will be wonderful for Hollyrood to be able to take control of ALL political and economic decisions. I would much rather reside in the nation where Mr. Salmond is at the helm, than the likes of Cameron/Osborne.

We are heading back to Edinburgh in July. I can't wait.

Ciao "Little" England!

I think you have a bit of doublethink going on with "little" Scotland and where their funding comes from, don't the SNP want a local country for local people?

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I am an American (who's husband is Scottish), I have lived for 5 years in Scotland (Edinburgh) and the last 3 years in England (London).

The little England elitist mentality never ceases to amaze me. May I just say, Scotland is a far better "country" to live in.

Agreed , too many immigrants in england these days , scotland must be too cold for them or summat.

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