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First, the incriminating evidence:

1: overview of two apparent incidents over the last month, marked with my arrows:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv131/electroweak/radfra3.jpg

2: zoomed-in view of Blayais:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv131/electroweak/radfra2.jpg

To verify this for yourself, go here:

http://eurdepweb.jrc.ec.europa.eu/PublicEurdepMap/Default.aspx

On the right, change "Last Value" to "Maximum Value".

Also change Timeframe from "1 Day" to "1 Month".

You will see then a PURPLE dot near the power station. Also if one zooms in, a red dot appears too.

The PURPLE dot is >400 nSv/h, BUT IT'S THE HIGHEST READING POSSIBLE - i.e. it is greater than the ability of the equipment's ability to measure it.

Who is watching this? Should I forward to Friends of the Earth or Greenpeace?

Ok, so here she is (Blayais):

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=le+montalipan&aq=&sll=45.244195,-0.686131&sspn=0.073848,0.15398&gl=uk&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=le+montalipan&ll=45.262805,-0.692482&spn=0.147648,0.307961&t=h&z=12

And the Wiki entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blayais_Nuclear_Power_Plant

Operated by EDF. (I am switching to scottish hydro!)

You can also see it looks like something happened in Luxembourg too...

See top right arrow here:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv131/electroweak/radfra3.jpg

and Zoomed-in:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv131/electroweak/radfra5.jpg

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First, the incriminating evidence:

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Why have you posted in this particular forum? This is "house prices and the economy". If you feel this has anything to do with this forum, please provide analysis related to house prices and the economy. Thanks.

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Why have you posted in this particular forum? This is "house prices and the economy". If you feel this has anything to do with this forum, please provide analysis related to house prices and the economy. Thanks.

Not good for house prices in France or South East England I suppose! ;)

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Not good for house prices in France or South East England I suppose! ;)

If true, well yes - but by how much? If you look at it that way, you could almost say everything is related to house prices...

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Yes, just ask the Daily Express

Yes from the Daily Express's perspective, everything is related to house prices, provided they go up!

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If true, well yes - but by how much? If you look at it that way, you could almost say everything is related to house prices...

Out here on Dartmoor, radiation levels (from the granite) are permanently off the scale of nuclear industry levels. What does that do for house prices?

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Out here on Dartmoor, radiation levels (from the granite) are permanently off the scale of nuclear industry levels. What does that do for house prices?

Would the correct answer be: "absolutely nothing"?

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Cool website, I never knew that existed!

Anyway, there are about 5 purple dots on the map, that are not near powerstations ...

- west coast of latvia

- middle of romania

- France Swiz border

- North france (brittiny i think)

Could be radon gas or something?

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Out here on Dartmoor, radiation levels (from the granite) are permanently off the scale of nuclear industry levels. What does that do for house prices?

Rather depends on how well adapted they are to prevent the build up of Radon gas which I was interested to read is the second biggest risk factor for lung cancer after smoking.

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Would the correct answer be: "absolutely nothing"?

Of course it has an effect on the economy and house prices. Just look at Japan!

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Of course it has an effect on the economy and house prices. Just look at Japan!

I don't think the "purple dots" are on the same scale as what's happening in Japan. As another poster has said, levels in the West Country are far higher than the "purple dots" and as far as I can see, house prices seem to be unaffected - it's not exactly a nuclear wasteland is it?

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First, the incriminating evidence:

1: overview of two apparent incidents over the last month, marked with my arrows:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv131/electroweak/radfra3.jpg

2: zoomed-in view of Blayais:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv131/electroweak/radfra2.jpg

To verify this for yourself, go here:

http://eurdepweb.jrc.ec.europa.eu/PublicEurdepMap/Default.aspx

On the right, change "Last Value" to "Maximum Value".

Also change Timeframe from "1 Day" to "1 Month".

You will see then a PURPLE dot near the power station. Also if one zooms in, a red dot appears too.

The PURPLE dot is >400 nSv/h, BUT IT'S THE HIGHEST READING POSSIBLE - i.e. it is greater than the ability of the equipment's ability to measure it.

Who is watching this? Should I forward to Friends of the Earth or Greenpeace?

Ok, so here she is (Blayais):

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=le+montalipan&aq=&sll=45.244195,-0.686131&sspn=0.073848,0.15398&gl=uk&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=le+montalipan&ll=45.262805,-0.692482&spn=0.147648,0.307961&t=h&z=12

And the Wiki entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blayais_Nuclear_Power_Plant

Operated by EDF. (I am switching to scottish hydro!)

You can also see it looks like something happened in Luxembourg too...

See top right arrow here:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv131/electroweak/radfra3.jpg

and Zoomed-in:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv131/electroweak/radfra5.jpg

Good post, thanks.

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Rather depends on how well adapted they are to prevent the build up of Radon gas which I was interested to read is the second biggest risk factor for lung cancer after smoking.

Where did you read that? I'd expect, for example, road traffic fumes to be a much bigger danger. But of course much harder to sample: we're all exposed to it. And less over-vi-researched, because chemical pollution isn't as sexy as radiation.

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Where did you read that? I'd expect, for example, road traffic fumes to be a much bigger danger. But of course much harder to sample: we're all exposed to it. And less over-vi-researched, because chemical pollution isn't as sexy as radiation.

Cancer Research UK says

"Cancer Research UK scientists have found that exposure to radon accounts for only 1% of all cancer deaths in the UK, mainly from lung cancer.

...

A study published in the Lancet, a top medical journal, estimated that outdoor air pollution affects 3% of lung cancer cases in the UK. Many of these cases happen in workers who spend a lot of time on the road and are exposed to large amounts of diesel exhaust.

...

Smoking causes up to 90% [of lung cancer cases in the UK]."

It depends what demographic group you belong to. If you don't smoke, don't work on the roads and don't live in an area with high radon levels, you'll probably die of something other than lung cancer (I'm discounting asbestos here). If you don't smoke and don't work on the roads, but do live in an area with high radon levels and no radon proofing in your home, then it is a small risk to you.

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First, the incriminating evidence:

1: overview of two apparent incidents over the last month, marked with my arrows:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv131/electroweak/radfra3.jpg

2: zoomed-in view of Blayais:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv131/electroweak/radfra2.jpg

To verify this for yourself, go here:

http://eurdepweb.jrc.ec.europa.eu/PublicEurdepMap/Default.aspx

On the right, change "Last Value" to "Maximum Value".

Also change Timeframe from "1 Day" to "1 Month".

You will see then a PURPLE dot near the power station. Also if one zooms in, a red dot appears too.

The PURPLE dot is >400 nSv/h, BUT IT'S THE HIGHEST READING POSSIBLE - i.e. it is greater than the ability of the equipment's ability to measure it.

Who is watching this? Should I forward to Friends of the Earth or Greenpeace?

Ok, so here she is (Blayais):

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=le+montalipan&aq=&sll=45.244195,-0.686131&sspn=0.073848,0.15398&gl=uk&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=le+montalipan&ll=45.262805,-0.692482&spn=0.147648,0.307961&t=h&z=12

And the Wiki entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blayais_Nuclear_Power_Plant

Operated by EDF. (I am switching to scottish hydro!)

You can also see it looks like something happened in Luxembourg too...

See top right arrow here:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv131/electroweak/radfra3.jpg

and Zoomed-in:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv131/electroweak/radfra5.jpg

These figures apear to be in nano Sv ie. x10-9, I think you need to get into mS (x10-3) or uS (x10-6) before you get into short term exposure problems, the following quote from the wiki illustrates this, funnily its always quite warm in Dungeness :o)

In the older steel pressure vessel design, boilers and gas ducting are outside the concrete biological shield. Consequently this design emits a significant amount of direct gamma and neutron radiation, termed direct "shine", from the reactors. For example the most exposed members of the public living near Dungeness Magnox reactor in 2002 received 0.56 mSv, over half the International Commission on Radiological Protection recommended maximum radiation dose limit for the public, from direct "shine" alone.[6] The doses from the Oldbury and Wylfa reactors, which have concrete pressure vessels which encapsulate the complete gas circuit, are much lower.

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