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A friend of mine is a Polish woman with a 5 year old son by a british guy. She tried to make a go of it but the guy was violent and extremely possessive ( I will let you guess what cultural background he has). Anyway under fear of her life she fled back to Poland. He harassed her for two years and eventually attempted to strangle her. He got away with a suspended prison sentence, I think because as a British Non WASP convicted of beating up polish women, his life expectancy would have been about 1 week in a polish prison.

Since then he has been served with restraint orders. He had most of his parental rights removed because he was rightly viewed as a danger to his son (who is also disabled).

My friend has pursued him in the polish courts winning a maintenance order, getting this registered in the UK, only to find the Central Accounting Office of HMCS are so utterly useless the claim will never be enforced. He has disowned his son and will never pay a penny because his disability brings[i] shame and dishonour on the family[/i]

This guy is actually a University Lecturer so its not like he is poor or without intelligence.

Anyway my friend has a pile of documents and pictures and thinking of making a Facebook page with them all and then sending friends requests to all his Uni work contacts, family, friends, and so on.

Providing all the documents are true and anything stated can be substantiated can anyone see a legal reason why this might be dodgy?

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Rules for getting away from bad people.

1) Get away

2) Stay away.

The lady needs therapy to resolve her "I want to get my head kicked in" issues, fwiw.

Legally I have no idea, but as an idea in and of itself it's completely mental.

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Rules for getting away from bad people.

1) Get away

2) Stay away.

The lady needs therapy to resolve her "I want to get my head kicked in" issues, fwiw.

Legally I have no idea, but as an idea in and of itself it's completely mental.

I agree with you in principle and in an ideal world yes.

However she feels she has to do something to hit back or possibly embarass him into meeting the maintenance order. Much of the blame here lies with the UK courts and Admin that are simply useless and do not enforce civil maintenance orders

For her though she is now living off less than £200 a month, in a poverty trap because her sons disability at present prevents her from working. Charity of family has been exhausted along with friends. I buy the kid a lot of what he needs (clothes, medicine) but their situation is still desperate.

From Poland it is relatively safe for her to do this as their is an arrest warrant for this guy ready and waiting if he turns up in Poland.

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White Anglo Saxon Protestant.

Fixed.

There was a newspaper report last week about a facebook campaign to shame a wealthy arab who's the prime suspect in the murder of a Scandinavian girl in London last year. He fled back home and the investigation is in limbo. Apparently it's been energetic, although I'm not sure how you'd gauge its effectiveness. I think the report said his father's business had had large european contracts withdrawn on foot of the publicity.

Couldn't find it by googling.

This might be of use, just to see how the police go about a facebook campaign:

http://www.thisislon...nage-murders.do

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Rules for getting away from bad people.

1) Get away

2) Stay away.

The lady needs therapy to resolve her "I want to get my head kicked in" issues, fwiw.

Legally I have no idea, but as an idea in and of itself it's completely mental.

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

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All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

That is the other side of the coin. I don't think publicising his misdeeds will change the guy but at least he will feel he got a kick in the nuts in the worst possible way for him - humiliation in front of family, work colleagues, friends.

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Fixed.

There was a newspaper report last week about a facebook campaign to shame a wealthy arab who's the prime suspect in the murder of a Scandinavian girl in London last year. He fled back home and the investigation is in limbo. Apparently it's been energetic, although I'm not sure how you'd gauge its effectiveness. I think the report said his father's business had had large european contracts withdrawn on foot of the publicity.

Couldn't find it by googling.

This might be of use, just to see how the police go about a facebook campaign:

http://www.thisislon...nage-murders.do

Cheers

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Rules for getting away from bad people.

1) Get away

2) Stay away.

The lady needs therapy to resolve her "I want to get my head kicked in" issues, fwiw.

Legally I have no idea, but as an idea in and of itself it's completely mental.

I agree with Injin. This man is at best a nuisance and at worst a potential murder. Tell your friend to get every legal protection (barring him entry to Poland would be a really good start) but under no circumstances to provoke him. The best revenge, as they say, is living well. She needs to get on with her own life and put this unfortunate period behind her. There are millions of other men out there and she might just meet a good one.

Doubtless, he will continue to make a mess of his life all by himself. Maybe his next girlfriend will do him in, or have a brother who will.

Just adding that I don't think slagging him off on FB will have any impact in his own community. I have a friend from the community who was married to a very similar man. Even her parents wanted her to stay with him to avoid 'shame.' Your friend will just be dismissed as a bitter/mad slut who got what she deserved. His reputation will remain intact. Sad but true.

And your friend, as a single mother with a disabled child, is hardly in a position to be taking on the world and fighting a crusade. Her position is just too vulnerable. She should concentrate on keeping herself and her child safe and well.

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I agree with Injin. This man is at best a nuisance and at worst a potential murder. Tell your friend to get every legal protection (barring him entry to Poland would be a really good start) but under no circumstances to provoke him. The best revenge, as they say, is living well. She needs to get on with her own life and put this unfortunate period behind her. There are millions of other men out there and she might just meet a good one.

Doubtless, he will continue to make a mess of his life all by himself. Maybe his next girlfriend will do him in, or have a brother who will.

As I said before I agree entirely in principle but none of us are in her position.

For starters Poland does not have the social welfare system the UK has. She gets around £160 a month 'pension' in respect of having a disabled son. If she earns a penny she loses that and can only work part time as he needs regular physio, speech therapy and its all in the day time.

She has already been served notice to quit her flat

She is facing being cut off from electricity and gas

She is deeply in debt

Has no money for food, clothes or medicine (even childrens medicine has to be paid for in Poland)

Her mother and step father live in a 1 bed studio - there is no room for her and her son

Unlike in the UK the polish authorities do not keep the family together, the child will go into some sh1tty orphanage, the mother a homeless womens hostel.

Can you now understand her desire to hit back at the cause of her misery?

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As I said before I agree entirely in principle but none of us are in her position.

For starters Poland does not have the social welfare system the UK has. She gets around £160 a month 'pension' in respect of having a disabled son. If she earns a penny she loses that and can only work part time as he needs regular physio, speech therapy and its all in the day time.

She has already been served notice to quit her flat

She is facing being cut off from electricity and gas

She is deeply in debt

Has no money for food, clothes or medicine (even childrens medicine has to be paid for in Poland)

Her mother and step father live in a 1 bed studio - there is no room for her and her son

Unlike in the UK the polish authorities do not keep the family together, the child will go into some sh1tty orphanage, the mother a homeless womens hostel.

Can you now understand her desire to hit back at the cause of her misery?

I totally understand her desire to hit back and she has every right. However, I feel very concerned for her safety. I don't know if this is possible but can't she come back to the UK, to an area far, far away from her ex and work here. At least she'll get some state benefits to help her and her son survive.

She won't get anything from her ex. The best she can do is hide from him and hope to meet someone new.

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I totally understand her desire to hit back and she has every right. However, I feel very concerned for her safety. I don't know if this is possible but can't she come back to the UK, to an area far, far away from her ex and work here. At least she'll get some state benefits to help her and her son survive.

She won't get anything from her ex. The best she can do is hide from him and hope to meet someone new.

6 months to restablish habitual residence. In the mean time she has to support herself and she hasn't got a pot to piss in. Its all gone as bit by bit she has sold things off to make ends meet. The only reason her son had a new winter coat and shoes last November was because I paid for them.

As for meeting someone new, well difficult when all your time is spent with the child and you look like shit because you havent enough / the righ food, make up or clothes.

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6 months to restablish habitual residence. In the mean time she has to support herself and she hasn't got a pot to piss in. Its all gone as bit by bit she has sold things off to make ends meet. The only reason her son had a new winter coat and shoes last November was because I paid for them.

As for meeting someone new, well difficult when all your time is spent with the child and you look like shit because you havent enough / the righ food, make up or clothes.

Ok, you are her friend, you can help her. She can come back to the uk if she can find the right situation. How about sharing accommodation and childcare with another Polish single mother and her kids? This is how other women have survived in places where there's no safety net. There must be other Polish women in the uk, or who want to come to the uk, in a similar position. That way their housing costs are less and they can both work in shifts.

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Ok, you are her friend, you can help her. She can come back to the uk if she can find the right situation. How about sharing accommodation and childcare with another Polish single mother and her kids? This is how other women have survived in places where there's no safety net. There must be other Polish women in the uk, or who want to come to the uk, in a similar position. That way their housing costs are less and they can both work in shifts.

I now live in Saudi Arabia so any help beyond financial (which is not unlimited) is not really feasible

Other Polish women in her situation lose their children. In her case who is going to take on the burden of caring for a disabled child whilst she works. The kid is nice - but is hard work. In addition coming to the Uk - their is the cost of flights, deposits on houses.

She has exhausted virtually every option. The only option would be to put the child in care and come to Britain and work for a year.

Could you voluntarily do that to your kids?

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Would be interesting to hear the blokes version of events. One of the most important things I have learned in life - there are ALWAYS two sides to a story.

Not saying this bloke is not some sort of mentalist. He may well be. However I bet here is another side to this story. There always is.

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I now live in Saudi Arabia so any help beyond financial (which is not unlimited) is not really feasible

Other Polish women in her situation lose their children. In her case who is going to take on the burden of caring for a disabled child whilst she works. The kid is nice - but is hard work. In addition coming to the Uk - their is the cost of flights, deposits on houses.

She has exhausted virtually every option. The only option would be to put the child in care and come to Britain and work for a year.

Could you voluntarily do that to your kids?

As you say, her options are few. You say no one would take on her kid but there will be loads of women in exactly the same situation. She /you could place an advert on a Polish forum to see if there is any interest. I know a woman who's mother kept her family together exactly this way and the other woman had 4 kids! You could lend them the deposit for rent and know that you've performing a truly life-saving act for a friend who really deserves the help.

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Would be interesting to hear the blokes version of events. One of the most important things I have learned in life - there are ALWAYS two sides to a story.

Not saying this bloke is not some sort of mentalist. He may well be. However I bet here is another side to this story. There always is.

Oh yeah, attempting strangle your ex and abandoning your own son to live without heat/ meds and probably food because he's disabled. He's probably totally misunderstood. Shut up ccc! Sometimes your 'bloke's rights' are amusing but this time it's just sick.

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As you say, her options are few. You say no one would take on her kid but there will be loads of women in exactly the same situation. She /you could place an advert on a Polish forum to see if there is any interest. I know a woman who's mother kept her family together exactly this way and the other woman had 4 kids! You could lend them the deposit for rent and know that you've performing a truly life-saving act for a friend who really deserves the help.

Thats a good idea - I will suggest that. Her mother might have been a ble to look after the kid but she is too frail.

'lend' with no prospect of repayment :)

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Would be interesting to hear the blokes version of events. One of the most important things I have learned in life - there are ALWAYS two sides to a story.

Not saying this bloke is not some sort of mentalist. He may well be. However I bet here is another side to this story. There always is.

I'm sure like any woman she could be trying but this guy is off the scale.

This guy is a grade a nutter. I have been to court hearings where he has made claims that my friend is drugging the child to create his disability. This is in the face of Neurologists reports from both the UK and Poland. I have seen the emails - the guy has a very thin veneer of sanity which disguises a truely deranged pyschopath.

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Oh yeah, attempting strangle your ex and abandoning your own son to live without heat/ meds and probably food because he's disabled. He's probably totally misunderstood. Shut up ccc! Sometimes your 'bloke's rights' are amusing but this time it's just sick.

CCC would see two sides of the story in regard to Peter Sutcliffe ;)

My friend has the indignity of seeing this guy parade his regular foreign holiday snaps on facebook. Cancun last year. Last month the USA.

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Oh yeah, attempting strangle your ex and abandoning your own son to live without heat/ meds and probably food because he's disabled. He's probably totally misunderstood. Shut up ccc! Sometimes your 'bloke's rights' are amusing but this time it's just sick.

How do you know this ? Were you there ? That is all I am saying. And it has nothing to do with blokes or birds rights. I would say the same thing if the roles were reversed....:rolleyes:

I'm sure like any woman she could be trying but this guy is off the scale.

This guy is a grade a nutter. I have been to court hearings where he has made claims that my friend is drugging the child to create his disability. This is in the face of Neurologists reports from both the UK and Poland. I have seen the emails - the guy has a very thin veneer of sanity which disguises a truely deranged pyschopath.

Very possibly. However just saying keep an open mind to things. How many times are people 100% sure of something/someone - and then 10 years down the live realise - holy ****** - how wrong could we be ? All the time.

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Would be interesting to hear the blokes version of events. One of the most important things I have learned in life - there are ALWAYS two sides to a story.

Not saying this bloke is not some sort of mentalist. He may well be. However I bet here is another side to this story. There always is.

Despite what he has done my friend has until recently tried to get this guy to have some contact with his son. But it is always on all his terms or nothing.

Polish authorities view him as a danger to the child. When they were trying to diagnose him he went for an MRI, the asshole gave permission, waited until the boy was put under general anaethetic and then withdrew consent. This formed part of the evidence to limit his parents rights.

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How do you know this ? Were you there ? That is all I am saying. And it has nothing to do with blokes or birds rights. I would say the same thing if the roles were reversed....:rolleyes:

Very possibly. However just saying keep an open mind to things. How many times are people 100% sure of something/someone - and then 10 years down the live realise - holy ****** - how wrong could we be ? All the time.

When someone makes public claims in court in the face of medical specialists reports I think its fairly safe to conclude this story is one sided.

Or perhaps its all her fault - maybe she didnt have sex often enough, or cook the right meals......

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He is right though, there are always (at least) two sides to every situation.

She may well have been an awful partner but it doesnt justify attempting to strangle her and running a two year harassment campaign (of which resulted in various restraint orders) including 100's pages of emails and letters to her family and friends.

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