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Breaking now on BBC website.

Seems that the yoof are not so dumb as to pay money to do cr1p uni courses with no hope of employment.

Any link? I can't find this.

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Breaking now on BBC website.

Seems that the yoof are not so dumb as to pay money to do cr1p uni courses with no hope of employment.

for a while now I have actually wondered whether this was actually the real objective of the increased tuition fees - a way to gid rid of these pointless places without abolishing them. Probably giving too much credit to the PTB

http://bloggerall-point.blogspot.com/2011/01/kids-are-all-right.html

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Here's their current list. Fill yer boots.

Accounting BA Hons

Accounting & Finance BA Hons

Accounting and Banking BA Hons

Accounting and Business BA Hons

Accounting Information Systems BA Hons

Advertising & Marketing Communication BA Hons

Advertising & Marketing Communication and Public Relations BA Hons

American Studies BA Hons

Animation BA Hons

Anthropology BSc Hons

Applied Biomedical Science BSc Hons

Arabic Studies BA Hons

Architectural Studies BA Hons

Architecture BA Hons

Architecture & Interior Design Extended Degree

Art, Media, Design BA Hons

Art, Media, Design Extended Degree

Arts Management BA Hons

Aviation Management BSc Hons

Aviation Management & Operations FDSc

Banking BA Hons

Banking & Finance BA Hons

Biochemistry BSc Hons

Biological Sciences BSc Hons

Biomedical Science BSc Hons

Biomedical Sciences leading to MD BSc Hons

Business BA Hons

Business and Law BA Hons

Business and Marketing BA Hons

Business Computing BSc Hons (1 year top-up)

Business Economics BA Hons

Business Economics & Finance BA Hons

Business Information Technology FDSc

Business Information Technology BSc Hons

Business Law BA Hons

Business Law and International Business BA Hons

Business Management BA Hons

Business Psychology BA Hons

Business Skills Preparatory Certificate

Caribbean Studies BA Hons

Chemistry BSc Hons

Communications Systems BSc Hons

Community Nursing BSc Hons (Dip HE)

Community Sector Management BSc Hons

Computer Animation BSc Hons

Computer Forensics BSc Hons

Computer Games Modelling and Design BSc Hons

Computer Games Programming BSc Hons

Computer Networking BSc Hons

Computer Science BSc Hons

Computer Systems Engineering BEng Hons

Computing BSc Hons

Computing FDSc

Computing & Mathematics FDSc

Computing Extended Degree (Computing, Communications Technology, Mathematics) Extended Degree

Creative Technology (E-learning, Games, Multimedia) FDSc

Creative Writing BA Hons

Creative Writing and English Literature BA Hons

Criminological Psychology BSc Hons

Criminology BA Hons

Criminology and Law BA Hons

Criminology and Media Studies BA Hons

Criminology and Psychology BA Hons

Criminology and Sociology BA Hons

Criminology and Youth Studies * BSc Hons

Decision Science BSc Hons

Design BA Hons

Digital Art * BA Hons

Digital Media BA Hons

Early Childhood Studies BA Hons

Early Years Teaching BEd Hons

Economic Studies BA Hons

Economics BA Hons

Education Studies BA Hons

Electronic & Communications Engineering BEng Hons

Electronic & Computer Engineering BEng

Electronics BSc Hons

Embedded Systems MEng Hons

English Literature BA Hons

Entrepreneurship BA Hons

European Banking & Finance BA Hons

Events Management BA Hons

Events Management and Marketing BA Hons

Events Management and Music & Media Management BA Hons

Events Management and Public Relations BA Hons

Fashion Marketing BA Hons

Fashion Marketing and Textile Design BA Hons

Film & Broadcast Production BA Hons

Film Studies BA Hons

Film Studies and Theatre Studies BA Hons

Finance BSc Hons

Financial Economics BSc Hons

Financial Mathematics BSc Hons

Financial Services BA Hons

Fine Art BA Hons

Fine Art - Specialist Routes BA Hons

Forensic Science BSc Hons

Furniture & Product Design BA Hons

Furniture Making Foundation Degree FDA

Furniture Restoration Foundation Degree FDA

Furniture Restoration BA Hons (1 year top-up)

Game Studies BA Hons

Game Studies and Media Arts BA Hons

Graphic Design BA Hons

Health & Safety Certificate in Professional Development

Health & Social Care University Certificate

Health Studies BSc Hons

Health Studies and Social Policy BSc Hons

Herbal Medicinal Science BSc Hons

History BA Hons

Human Nutrition BSc Hons

Human Nutrition & Dietetics BSc Hons

Human Resource Management BA Hons

Illustration BA Hons

Individual & Community Empowerment Foundation Degree FDA

Industrial Relations Certificate in Professional Relations

Information & Communications Technology Support Foundation Degree FDSc

Interior Architecture & Design BA Hons

Interior Design Foundation Degree FDA

Interior Design & Technology BA Hons

International Business BA Hons

International Business BSc Hons

International Business Management BA Hons

International Business Management BA Hons (1 year top-up)

International Development BA Hons

International Development and International Relations BA Hons

International Economics BA Hons

International Economics & Finance BSc Hons

International Financial Services BA Hons (1 year top-up)

International Foundation Programme Preparatory Diploma

International Hospitality Management BA Hons

International Law & International Politics BA Hons

International Relations BA Hons

International Relations and Law BA Hons

International Relations and Peace & Conflict Studies BA Hons

International Relations and Politics BA Hons

International Tourism Management BA Hons

International Tourism Management and Travel Management BA Hons

Internet Computing BSc Hons

Investment BA Hons

IT Security BSc Hons

Jewellery BA Hons

Jewellery & Silversmithing BA Hons

Jewellery & Silversmithing Design Foundation Degree FDA

Journalism BA Hons

Labour & Trade Union Studies BA Hons

Labour & Trade Union Studies (Health and Safety) BA Hons

Law BA Hons

Law & Practice BA Hons (1 year top-up)

Leadership BA Hons

LLB LLB Hons

LLB (Business Law) LLB Hons

LLB Law (with International Development) LLB Hons

LLB Law (with International Relations) LLB Hons

Logistics & Supply Chain Management * BA Hons

Management BA Hons

Management & Leadership BA Hons

Marketing BA Hons

Marketing and Music & Media Management BA Hons

Mass Communications BSc Hons

Mathematical Sciences BSc Hons

Mathematics BSc Hons

Mathematics & Computer Science BSc Hons

Mathematics & Engineering Applications BSc Hons

Media Arts BA Hons

Media Business Management BA Hons

Media Studies BSc Hons

Medical Bioscience BSc Hons

Mobile & Satellite Communications MEng Hons

Mobile Computing BSc Hons

Motion Graphics BA Hons

Music & Media Management BA Hons

Music Education BA Hons

Music Technology (Audio Systems) BSc Hons

Music Technology (Sound for Media) BA Hons

Musical Instruments BSc Hons

Network Management & Security MEng Hons

Nurse Practitioner BSc Hons

Open Language Programme University Certificate or Optional Module

Peace & Conflict Studies BA Hons

Performing Arts BA Hons

Pharmaceutical Science BSc Hons

Pharmacology BSc Hons

Philosophy BA Hons

Politics BA Hons

Politics, Philosophy & Economy BA Hons

Polymer Engineering BEng Hons - Single

Polymer Technology * FDSc

Polymer Technology University Certificate Preparatory Award

Product Design BSc Hons

Promotional Media BA Hons

Psychology BSc Hons

Public Health & Social Care Foundation Degree FDA

Public Health (Occupational Health Nursing, Health Visiting, School Nursing, Public Health Nursing or non-professional route) BSc Hons (1 year top-up)

Public Relations BA Hons

Restoration & Conservation BSc Hons

Retail Management BA Hons

Sciences Extended Degree (Biology, Chemistry, Health, Psychology) BSc Sciences Preparatory Year

Small Business Enterprise & Entrepreneurship BA Hons

Social Policy BSc Hons

Social Work BSc Hons

Sociology BSc Hons

Software Engineering BSc Hons

Spanish & Latin American Studies BA Hons

Specialist Social Work (working with Adults) BSc Hons (1 year top-up)

Specialist Social Work (working with Children and Young People) BSc Hons (1 year top-up)

Sports & Dance Therapy BSc Hons

Sports Management BA Hons

Sports Psychology & Performance BSc Hons

Sports Science BSc Hons

Sports Science & Coaching BSc Hons

Sports Science & Physical Education BSc Hons

Sports Therapy BSc Hons

Statistics BSc Hons

Sustainable Communities Foundation Degree FDA

Taxation BA Hons

Telecommunications & Networks Engineering BEng Hons

Textile Design BA Hons

Theatre Studies BA Hons

Translation BA Hons

Travel Management BA Hons

Union Learning Certificate in Professional Development

Youth Studies BSc Hons

Youth Work BSc Hons

Edit to add: I expect most of the courses dropped will be the joint honours that combine two or more of the above - lots of costly admin involved with these but the same income per student.

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Didn't London Met have to repay a huge some of money a while back. Getting paid for non existent students or something?

Edited to add:

http://www.islingtontribune.com/news/2010/may/london-metropolitan-university-bosses-cleared-inquiry-no-involvement-financial-scandal

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Seems that the yoof are not so dumb as to pay money to do cr1p uni courses with no hope of employment.

In many cases the yoof won't pay for their courses. Bursaries for poor students and never earning enough to hit repayment thresholds will see to that.

I'm confused by the thread title which suggests 70% of courses may be cut. The Guardian article says 'Leaked documents reveal proposals by London Metropolitan University to cut 240 undergraduate courses by autumn 2012.' and 'A report sent to the academic board of London Metropolitan University proposes the institution reduces its number of undergraduate courses to just 160 by autumn 2012'.

Cutting 240 from 400 (160 + 240) is a 60% cut not a 70% cut in the number of courses.

Unfortunately, many of the crop of recent graduates can't do this sort of complex mental arithmatic. Hopefully it's the courses these graduates attended that will be cut.

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I think there's a lot of kids deluding themselves that they can still do one of these, and they'll escape the debt somehow because they'll be earning less than £21K for years to come.:huh:

£21K is not far below the 'average' wage. In ten years it could be double that.

Flip that back 30 years and my first wage was ~£4K and the 'average' was ~£5K. Meantime they are subject to punitive compound interest. CPI+3% or similar.

One of the accounting firms came up with some realistic figures for the lifetime of that 2012 onwards student debt and summarised it as £84K!

Paying £84K to nominally avoid the dole for three years. Kinell.

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Paying £84K to nominally avoid the dole for three years. Kinell.

You are missing the key point that you come out able to put the eye-wateringly impressive title of "Sports & Dance Therapy BSc Hons" after your name.

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You are missing the key point that you come out able to put the eye-wateringly impressive title of "Sports & Dance Therapy BSc Hons" after your name.

You may mock but many traditionally mundane jobs are upskilling dramatically. Nobody without a BA in Promotional Media would get a job delivering flyers these days.

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We're not thinking of the FUTURE!

We'll be sorry when a Klingon Bird of Prey starship has to come back in time to save the human race by transporting humpback whales to the future. We won't be able read the Klingon instructions on how to recharge the dilithium crystals that power the warp engines.

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You may mock but many traditionally mundane jobs are upskilling dramatically. Nobody without a BA in Promotional Media would get a job delivering flyers these days.

What a shambolic list of degree courses. I had to flip back to that list to see if you were being serious. A degree in Promotional media FFS half of those degrees on there would make an 'A' level blush.

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In many cases the yoof won't pay for their courses. Bursaries for poor students and never earning enough to hit repayment thresholds will see to that.

I'm confused by the thread title which suggests 70% of courses may be cut. The Guardian article says 'Leaked documents reveal proposals by London Metropolitan University to cut 240 undergraduate courses by autumn 2012.' and 'A report sent to the academic board of London Metropolitan University proposes the institution reduces its number of undergraduate courses to just 160 by autumn 2012'.

Cutting 240 from 400 (160 + 240) is a 60% cut not a 70% cut in the number of courses.

Unfortunately, many of the crop of recent graduates can't do this sort of complex mental arithmatic. Hopefully it's the courses these graduates attended that will be cut.

Let's hope these recent graduates have a better appreciation of materiality than you.

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I listened to a R4 piece today about how the fees rearrangement could cost the state alot more than they've pencilled in.

Basic point was that the state has guaranteed defaults, and with unis opting for higher fees the projected defaults will be higher than expected.

They mentioned Met Uni, which has 30,000 students and has gone for fees of £6000 - the government points out that, on average, this balances out the many small institutions that are maxing out on £9000. Either way, the cost to the taxpayer should be smaller, but not as small as promised.

Not sure I got the full point. The presenters were chummy and "amusing", and I was in the middle of an aggravating journey. Kept driving over flattened badger carcasses and raging at people who pay exact obedience to the temporary traffic lights at road-works.

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Accounting BA Hons

Accounting & Finance BA Hons

Accounting and Banking BA Hons

Accounting and Business BA Hons

Accounting Information Systems BA Hons

Advertising & Marketing Communication BA Hons

Advertising & Marketing Communication and Public Relations BA Hons

American Studies BA Hons

Animation BA Hons

Anthropology BSc Hons

Applied Biomedical Science BSc Hons

Arabic Studies BA Hons

Architectural Studies BA Hons

Architecture BA Hons

Architecture & Interior Design Extended Degree

Art, Media, Design BA Hons

Art, Media, Design Extended Degree

Arts Management BA Hons

Aviation Management BSc Hons

Aviation Management & Operations FDSc

Banking BA Hons

Banking & Finance BA Hons

Biochemistry BSc Hons

Biological Sciences BSc Hons

Biomedical Science BSc Hons

Biomedical Sciences leading to MD BSc Hons

Business BA Hons

Business and Law BA Hons

Business and Marketing BA Hons

Business Computing BSc Hons (1 year top-up)

Business Economics BA Hons

Business Economics & Finance BA Hons

Business Information Technology FDSc

Business Information Technology BSc Hons

Business Law BA Hons

Business Law and International Business BA Hons

Business Management BA Hons

Business Psychology BA Hons

Business Skills Preparatory Certificate

Caribbean Studies BA Hons

Chemistry BSc Hons

Communications Systems BSc Hons

Community Nursing BSc Hons (Dip HE)

Community Sector Management BSc Hons

Computer Animation BSc Hons

Computer Forensics BSc Hons

Computer Games Modelling and Design BSc Hons

Computer Games Programming BSc Hons

Computer Networking BSc Hons

Computer Science BSc Hons

Computer Systems Engineering BEng Hons

Computing BSc Hons

Computing FDSc

Computing & Mathematics FDSc

Computing Extended Degree (Computing, Communications Technology, Mathematics) Extended Degree

Creative Technology (E-learning, Games, Multimedia) FDSc

Creative Writing BA Hons

Creative Writing and English Literature BA Hons

Criminological Psychology BSc Hons

Criminology BA Hons

Criminology and Law BA Hons

Criminology and Media Studies BA Hons

Criminology and Psychology BA Hons

Criminology and Sociology BA Hons

Criminology and Youth Studies * BSc Hons

Decision Science BSc Hons

Design BA Hons

Digital Art * BA Hons

Digital Media BA Hons

Early Childhood Studies BA Hons

Early Years Teaching BEd Hons

Economic Studies BA Hons

Economics BA Hons

Education Studies BA Hons

Electronic & Communications Engineering BEng Hons

Electronic & Computer Engineering BEng

Electronics BSc Hons

Embedded Systems MEng Hons

English Literature BA Hons

Entrepreneurship BA Hons

European Banking & Finance BA Hons

Events Management BA Hons

Events Management and Marketing BA Hons

Events Management and Music & Media Management BA Hons

Events Management and Public Relations BA Hons

Fashion Marketing BA Hons

Fashion Marketing and Textile Design BA Hons

Film & Broadcast Production BA Hons

Film Studies BA Hons

Film Studies and Theatre Studies BA Hons

Finance BSc Hons

Financial Economics BSc Hons

Financial Mathematics BSc Hons

Financial Services BA Hons

Fine Art BA Hons

Fine Art - Specialist Routes BA Hons

Forensic Science BSc Hons

Furniture & Product Design BA Hons

Furniture Making Foundation Degree FDA

Furniture Restoration Foundation Degree FDA

Furniture Restoration BA Hons (1 year top-up)

Game Studies BA Hons

Game Studies and Media Arts BA Hons

Graphic Design BA Hons

Health & Safety Certificate in Professional Development

Health & Social Care University Certificate

Health Studies BSc Hons

Health Studies and Social Policy BSc Hons

Herbal Medicinal Science BSc Hons

History BA Hons

Human Nutrition BSc Hons

Human Nutrition & Dietetics BSc Hons

Human Resource Management BA Hons

Illustration BA Hons

Individual & Community Empowerment Foundation Degree FDA

Industrial Relations Certificate in Professional Relations

Information & Communications Technology Support Foundation Degree FDSc

Interior Architecture & Design BA Hons

Interior Design Foundation Degree FDA

Interior Design & Technology BA Hons

International Business BA Hons

International Business BSc Hons

International Business Management BA Hons

International Business Management BA Hons (1 year top-up)

International Development BA Hons

International Development and International Relations BA Hons

International Economics BA Hons

International Economics & Finance BSc Hons

International Financial Services BA Hons (1 year top-up)

International Foundation Programme Preparatory Diploma

International Hospitality Management BA Hons

International Law & International Politics BA Hons

International Relations BA Hons

International Relations and Law BA Hons

International Relations and Peace & Conflict Studies BA Hons

International Relations and Politics BA Hons

International Tourism Management BA Hons

International Tourism Management and Travel Management BA Hons

Internet Computing BSc Hons

Investment BA Hons

IT Security BSc Hons

Jewellery BA Hons

Jewellery & Silversmithing BA Hons

Jewellery & Silversmithing Design Foundation Degree FDA

Journalism BA Hons

Labour & Trade Union Studies BA Hons

Labour & Trade Union Studies (Health and Safety) BA Hons

Law BA Hons

Law & Practice BA Hons (1 year top-up)

Leadership BA Hons

LLB LLB Hons

LLB (Business Law) LLB Hons

LLB Law (with International Development) LLB Hons

LLB Law (with International Relations) LLB Hons

Logistics & Supply Chain Management * BA Hons

Management BA Hons

Management & Leadership BA Hons

Marketing BA Hons

Marketing and Music & Media Management BA Hons

Mass Communications BSc Hons

Mathematical Sciences BSc Hons

Mathematics BSc Hons

Mathematics & Computer Science BSc Hons

Mathematics & Engineering Applications BSc Hons

Media Arts BA Hons

Media Business Management BA Hons

Media Studies BSc Hons

Medical Bioscience BSc Hons

Mobile & Satellite Communications MEng Hons

Mobile Computing BSc Hons

Motion Graphics BA Hons

Music & Media Management BA Hons

Music Education BA Hons

Music Technology (Audio Systems) BSc Hons

Music Technology (Sound for Media) BA Hons

Musical Instruments BSc Hons

Network Management & Security MEng Hons

Nurse Practitioner BSc Hons

Open Language Programme University Certificate or Optional Module

Peace & Conflict Studies BA Hons

Performing Arts BA Hons

Pharmaceutical Science BSc Hons

Pharmacology BSc Hons

Philosophy BA Hons

Politics BA Hons

Politics, Philosophy & Economy BA Hons

Polymer Engineering BEng Hons - Single

Polymer Technology * FDSc

Polymer Technology University Certificate Preparatory Award

Product Design BSc Hons

Promotional Media BA Hons

Psychology BSc Hons

Public Health & Social Care Foundation Degree FDA

Public Health (Occupational Health Nursing, Health Visiting, School Nursing, Public Health Nursing or non-professional route) BSc Hons (1 year top-up)

Public Relations BA Hons

Restoration & Conservation BSc Hons

Retail Management BA Hons

Sciences Extended Degree (Biology, Chemistry, Health, Psychology) BSc Sciences Preparatory Year

Small Business Enterprise & Entrepreneurship BA Hons

Social Policy BSc Hons

Social Work BSc Hons

Sociology BSc Hons

Software Engineering BSc Hons

Spanish & Latin American Studies BA Hons

Specialist Social Work (working with Adults) BSc Hons (1 year top-up)

Specialist Social Work (working with Children and Young People) BSc Hons (1 year top-up)

Sports & Dance Therapy BSc Hons

Sports Management BA Hons

Sports Psychology & Performance BSc Hons

Sports Science BSc Hons

Sports Science & Coaching BSc Hons

Sports Science & Physical Education BSc Hons

Sports Therapy BSc Hons

Statistics BSc Hons

Sustainable Communities Foundation Degree FDA

Taxation BA Hons

Telecommunications & Networks Engineering BEng Hons

Textile Design BA Hons

Theatre Studies BA Hons

Translation BA Hons

Travel Management BA Hons

Union Learning Certificate in Professional Development

Youth Studies BSc Hons

Youth Work BSc Hons

What a bunch of crap!

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What a bunch of crap!

Not all of them, but a lot of them..yes...Sorry for being a luddite, but WTF is Peace & Conflict Studies?

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Not all of them, but a lot of them..yes...Sorry for being a luddite, but WTF is Peace & Conflict Studies?

I know I was going to filter the few good ones out but couldn't be arsed and didn't think they deserved my effort.

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