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Whilst no advocating actual hanging.

If it was not the bankers making fraudulent risks then...

Maybe it was the FSA being negligent.....

Or the politicians bankrupting the nation via manipulating inflation metrics so much that money became too cheap etc etc.

Or at the other end more politicians interfering in a free market and in essence putting debts from private institutions onto the tab of the normal jo public.

In there somewhere is a crime its just its such a large crime that unfortunately it suits most that it is swept under the carpet via inflation.....if that is indeed possible.

If it does come to pass that the country is FUBR and we do go down shit creek then maybe people will say when did this happen? Then start to see that 1.30 bread and 1.40 diesel is linked to house prices and the banking bailout.

The irony of it all is that once the banks are ok (ish) the rates will go up. There will be no bailout for the little guy in return for his generosity.

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This 10 O Clock shyt is about the only show on TV that makes Question Time look fair and balanced, id sooner hang the extremist leftwing audience who support borrow borrow borrow and spend spend spend and huge totalitarian govt. ... f'en students and poncy new generation London boys and girls i shyt em!

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Made a refreshing change from watching BBC 1 @10.

Found it frustrating watching this sketch. The pain and the misery this has caused to millions is anything but funny. I really feel that any opportunity like this should be fully leveraged to educate as many as possible as to what is going on. If I was on there, I would have repeated until somebody killed him the particulars of Goodwin's pension for starters. Keiser is great on his tv show, I just thought he got pigeon holed with the 'bonkers' tag a bit too easy, There is so much unfinished business here..

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Max Keiser is great. His Russia Today show is must watch late night TV. Some good insight and good guests.

In essence the crooks have won.

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This programme is terrible.

Even substituting Lauren Laverne with Lenny Henry wouldn't make it any less funny and tattooing 'Spare Part' on her forehead couldn't make the poor lass any more self-conscious she's the diversity element.

This is the sort of acerbic review I'd have expected Charlie Brooker to have spat out by now.

Except, somehow, he's managed to get himself embroiled in this sorry-ar5ed sixth form common room political witticism banter amongst the group of kids the teachers have very high hopes for in the Oxbridge entrance exams. The same group, that in lower school, the PE teacher had similar high hopes that one week they'd arrive for his lesson without a sick note from their mum. C0cks.

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This programme is terrible.

Even substituting Lauren Laverne with Lenny Henry wouldn't make it any less funny and tattooing 'Spare Part' on her forehead couldn't make the poor lass any more self-conscious she's the diversity element.

This is the sort of acerbic review I'd have expected Charlie Brooker to have spat out by now.

It's like the Guardian meets an ersatz 'That Was The Week That Was', it's so right on that I f***d right off after the second week or so. I'd only become funny if Charlie suffered some kind of Howard Beale air on meltdown and ripped into the show in some kind of meta paradox.

I guess it's interesting to those whose politics and naive world view has barely progressed beyond the 6th form common room, the ratings seem to indicate that there's only a limited number of such people out there; I guess they're the same people who voted for Clegg last year.

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He can be a buffoon, but he's our buffoon

As an aside, ive never seen anything wrong with capital punishment. People say its revenge, not justice, as if thats a bad thing. Revenge is a very human emotion, to deny that emotion is to deny the very thing that makes us human

Hang em high, i say.

Put their heads on pikes for all to see, reptillian filth.

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Very interesting.

"They started using debt as a casino" said Max, and "cancerous bankers in the system corrupting the system, yet no-one is willing to jail them"..

James Max did not seem to agree.

Worth watching here for hpc'ers who missed it.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/10-oclock-live

I just scrolled through that bunch of crap and realised the episode of today is not on there yet.

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I just scrolled through that bunch of crap and realised the episode of today is not on there yet.

Channel4+1 is (was) your friend when you see a thread about something 'on C4 now' appearing here.

Keiser made some very good points but went too OTT from the start enabling the ex-GS guy and the fat buffoon (who has previously been positioned by the media as an ex-banker 'dissident') to pidgeonhole him as a conspiracy theory kook. He could have done a lot better by being lower key instead of playing to the studio crowd of morons.

The ex-GS guy was creepy as hell; Clearly very intelligent but utterly cold and calculating. And at least we learned where the the other ex-investment banker stood - sort of the 'Jeremy Clarkson' of banking critics, being ostensibly outspoken but very much part of the clique when it comes down to it.

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Channel4+1 is (was) your friend when you see a thread about something 'on C4 now' appearing here.

Keiser made some very good points but went too OTT from the start enabling the ex-GS guy and the fat buffoon (who has previously been positioned by the media as an ex-banker 'dissident') to pidgeonhole him as a conspiracy theory kook. He could have done a lot better by being lower key instead of playing to the studio crowd of morons.

The ex-GS guy was creepy as hell; Clearly very intelligent but utterly cold and calculating. And at least we learned where the the other ex-investment banker stood - sort of the 'Jeremy Clarkson' of banking critics, being ostensibly outspoken but very much part of the clique when it comes down to it.

GS is the ultimate beneficiary of the systemic bailout, their bets were so large that they bankrupted their competitors, the biggest insurer in the world and all the other pasties they managed to offload their liabilities on to (like RBS). What's the point of winning when you've bankrupted the bookie? Thankfully their political links meant they were able to find another set of mugs to bear the losses, all in the best interests of all concerned, of course.

It's no conspiracy, it all occurred quite legally in plain sight.

They interviewed Keiser on CH4? Nice one!

I wouldn't call it that, he came across as a ranting mad man.

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GS is the ultimate beneficiary of the systemic bailout, their bets were so large that they bankrupted their competitors, the biggest insurer in the world and all the other pasties they managed to offload their liabilities on to (like RBS). What's the point of winning when you've bankrupted the bookie? Thankfully their political links meant they were able to find another set of mugs to bear the losses, all in the best interests of all concerned, of course.

It's no conspiracy, it all occurred quite legally in plain sight.

I wouldn't call it that, he came across as a ranting mad man.

In a mad world, wouldnt the only sane man left be considered a mad man?

We should be incandescent with rage. Gordon Brown shouldnt be able to step out his front door without being pelted with rotten fruit. Banksters should be in fear of their lives.

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In a mad world, wouldnt the only sane man left be considered a mad man?

We should be incandescent with rage. Gordon Brown shouldnt be able to step out his front door without being pelted with rotten fruit. Banksters should be in fear of their lives.

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I f***d right off after the second week or so.

I never made it that far.

Keiser made some very good points but went too OTT from the start

He does have a tendency to do that on "The Kaiser Report" and "On the Edge". The points he makes can get a bit lost in the histrionics (at least to the average C4 viewer).

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Very interesting.

"They started using debt as a casino" said Max, and "cancerous bankers in the system corrupting the system, yet no-one is willing to jail them"..

James Max did not seem to agree.

Worth watching here for hpc'ers who missed it.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/10-oclock-live

Thanks.

To spare you all the whooping kidults, numerous scenes of Jimmy Carr laughing backwards and a variety of sketches and routines so weak they make "Game for a Laugh" look sophisticated, you can fast forward to 15:35 to see the bit that'll actually interest you.

David Mitchell is seriously wasted on this dross.

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David Mitchell is seriously wasted on this dross.

I've now just watched it and all I can say is "Max Keiser is too".

If he'd not started with "hang the bankers" and instead delivered a concise piece featuring the key points he regularly states on his show, then I think his young audience would have learned an awful lot more about how the banking system really works, why we're in the current dire state and how all of their futures have been mortgaged to pay for it.

I'm afraid to say that Richard Sharp of Goldman Sachs came off better... although look at his face @ 20:00 when Keiser says "the government is owned by the banks". There's a poker face if ever I saw one.

This all said, Keiser did manage to get in "Stockholm Syndrome", "financial terrorists" and, of course, "the government is owned by the banks". He also concluded with a fantastic trump on the obnoxious James Max. There was also some reassuring applause that some of the audience had actually heard of Max Keiser.

10 O'clock Live is still shit though.

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"They started using debt as a casino" said Max, and "cancerous bankers in the system corrupting the system, yet no-one is willing to jail them"..

James is a VI up to his ears in BTL and a big mortgage on his primary residence, as he's admitted to on his LBC show in the past.

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There is a remorseless logic to the idea that bankers should be lynched, despite Keiser's occasional tendency to rant his point

1. If someone burgles you/ robs you, you call the police

2. If the police come, nick stuff off you and allow the robber to continue stealing from you, you may appeal to the judicial/ regulatory authorities or take your case to the media

3. If the judiciary/ regulatory authorities have been captured by your robber, you then end up with no choice but to defend yourself and your property. Depending on the persistence and violence of the robber, this may involve killing him

From a utilitarian perspective

1. One hopes the rule of law will be upheld

2. If a small privileged sector of society are allowed to frequently break the rule of law, it will enrage others, particularly if they use that freedom from the law to steal from others

3. To avoid moral hazard, the extra-judicial murder of these thieves by a lynch mob may well be the kindest most utilitarian outcome. It would actively incentivise other thieves to stop, lawmakers to ensure there are consequences for their actions (ie punish them and break up their companies) and regulators and investigators to do their jobs. Once the lives of those in power is imperilled, the political calculus instantly changes. Lynch 'em pour encourager les autres.

Our civilisation drone bombs and murders civilians in AfPak in pursuit of alleged anti-terrorist goals. Drone bombing and murdering the small group of terrorist senior bankers who have executed this coup against G7 economies would involve far fewer civilian fatalities and deliver far better outcomes for all concerned.

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Unless Im watching all the wrong Channels, Keiser seems to be completely on his own out there in T.V Land. Amongst a sea of Vested Interests.

That's the first time I've seen VI James Max.

What a W@nker.

http://www.channel4....oclock-live/4od

Starts at 15:21 in.

Anyone care to extrapolate Max Keisers point at 22:30.

Max says the Banks stole money. James Max says the banks didnt steal anything.

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If Max kEiser reads this - good effort!

But no point was made about "BANKER BONUSES!"

How can millions be thrown out of work, when Bob Diamond receives £9m in bounuses!

That would have torpedoed them.

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"while the slave masters cheer for slavery, they get a freakish thrill making the slave cheer for slavery"

Haven't seen the show, just wanted to share the above quote, from "The Greatest" by Mr M. Ali. Seems to sum up the past few years for me.

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Thanks.

To spare you all the whooping kidults, numerous scenes of Jimmy Carr laughing backwards and a variety of sketches and routines so weak they make "Game for a Laugh" look sophisticated, you can fast forward to 15:35 to see the bit that'll actually interest you.

David Mitchell is seriously wasted on this dross.

And yet,

David Mitchell was more than happy to do the voiceovers for the Barclays investment adverts. Did he mention that in the show?

No? - Didn't think so.

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