200p Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 We get a lot of guff about, "audit trails", "networks", "frameworks", "compliance", "assessments", "assurance statements", "safeguards", "governance" and 100s of new acronyms, which all slow down the process of getting the job done, and adds considerable cost and time when one small detail is missed. No wonder 30 profit driven big businesses signed a letter backing the austerity cuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19 year mortgage 8itch Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Doesn't this have something to do with birds being punted off Income Support onto JSA? So no wonder the number is rising? Pointed out by several people already today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphmalph Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/8447783/Number-of-women-claiming-Jobseekers-Allowance-reaches-15-yr-high.html 'The so-called claimant count increased by 700 last month to 1.45 million, including 462,300 women, the highest figures since October 1996, according to the Office for National Statistics. Analysts said women were suffering higher unemployment levels because of public sector cuts where they tend to represent a higher proportion of the work force Vicky Redwood, an economist at Capital Economics, said: “It reflects the job cuts in the public sector as women are vulnerable to these. And that is even before the public sector cuts have really got going.” She added: “More women may also be looking for work as they need to help pay higher household bills.” TUC General Secretary Brendan Barber said: “While today’s unemployment figures are a welcome relief after a slew of poor economic data, not everyone will be sharing in the jobs cheer. Female unemployment has been rising many months. “What’s particularly worrying is that these figures come before public sector job losses really start to bite. “With hundreds of thousands of jobs set to go in local government alone – where three quarters of staff are female – there are real fears that rising female joblessness could increase in pace. ' Holy smoly,didn't realsie the females of the species predominated so much in the public sector.Does make you wonder why councils who are so right on about positive discrimination,get away with having so few blokes on the payroll. Good pulling odds,3-1. Both the above two are incorrect in there analysis it was discussed in the thread this morning when the figures were released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interestrateripoff Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I'll be slightly stereotypical here, the number of jobless women won't skyrocket as they will have partners/husbands meaning at most they will be on the jobless figures for 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copydude Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Oh dear. They have based the whole economy, tax revenue, house prices etc on two people working. But now there aren't enough jobs. Older couples will now have a child that can't even afford the fees to go to school while he's unemployed. It's all kinda unravelling, isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahoma Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Christ. Imagine the legions of entitled, brittle, incompetent clipboard wielding bints about to be let loose on the jobs 'market'. Maybe they can all become each other's life coaches. Or maybe, just maybe, the market is going to quietly but firmly inform them of their actual worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ayatollah Buggeri Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 If women account for 75% of public sector employees, this means that they had an unfair advantage in the jobs market during the boom, with preferential treatment for the jobs that are more secure, have better pensions etc. than their private sector counterparts. Therefore it's only fair that they share the pain proportionally to that in a downturn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Bear Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Christ. Imagine the legions of entitled, brittle, incompetent clipboard wielding bints about to be let loose on the jobs 'market'. Maybe they can all become each other's life coaches. Or maybe, just maybe, the market is going to quietly but firmly inform them of their actual worth. You don't hear much about 'life coaching' any more. I wonder why that is? Anything to do with people hesitating to pay someone £75 an hour to tell them to do the things they know they should be doing anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Women have had an unbelieveable ADVANTAGE in the workplace for many years now, despite the wailing protests of sex dscrimination feminists. As a man who wants equality for my gender I won't be happy until 50% of claimants are are made up of women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherProle Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) edit: image fail Edited April 14, 2011 by JustAnotherProle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 You don't hear much about 'life coaching' any more. I wonder why that is? Anything to do with people hesitating to pay someone £75 an hour to tell them to do the things they know they should be doing anyway? Do you think there was a life coaching bubble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffneck Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Do you think there was a life coaching bubble? There is certainly a nail salon/beauty parlour bubble , in this part of the world anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gardener Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Women have had an unbelieveable ADVANTAGE in the workplace for many years now, despite the wailing protests of sex dscrimination feminists. As a man who wants equality for my gender I won't be happy until 50% of claimants are are made up of women. +1 As a man, try asking for flexible working and see what happens. Goodbye career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Do you think there was a life coaching bubble? I think that bubbles are pretty much the entire content of most 'life coaches' heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buccaneer Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Do you think there was a life coaching bubble? There is certainly a nail salon/beauty parlour bubble , in this part of the world anyway. They can all sell cupcakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tricksters Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Hunter gatherers. Ideally, man goes out to work. Woman stays home looks after home and family. All right, fair enough - no chance, it's not going to happen any more, is it. But it's swung the other way now. Seems men don't get a look in, sometimes. Schools, for example, are awash with women, especially primary schools where it is common for nary a single male to be seen, and unusual if there is more than one, out of a staff of ten or fifteen or twenty or more. If that was reversed, think of the howls of "discrimination". The feminisation of our schools has wrought havoc. Women seem to loom large in the media as well - pretty, lightweight, twenty something clones who are so uncontroversial as to be bland, presenting weather or news and the rest of it, seem to far outnumber male counterparts. No doubt plenty of other examples. But the women's lib movement got their wretched "equality" for women and now they can fight for jobs along with men in the work place. How nice for them. All seems like a pile of poo to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notMyName Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Schools, for example, are awash with women, especially primary schools where it is common for nary a single male to be seen, and unusual if there is more than one, out of a staff of ten or fifteen or twenty or more. If that was reversed, think of the howls of "discrimination". The feminisation of our schools has wrought havoc. I can't help but wonder if this is one of the reasons for a lot of the trouble caused by young people in the poorer areas, with a high amount of single mothers. They come from a home with no male role model, and then go to school, and spend their formative years, without any male role models in school. By the time they get to high school, it's probably too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northwestsmith2 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 It reflects the job cuts in the public sector Which haven't happened "yet" afaik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash2006 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Which haven't happened "yet" afaik. You can reduce government spending by sacking married female workers, as most will not be able to sign up on JSA, if you sack a married guy you have a higher chance he'll sign on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 We get a lot of guff about, "audit trails", "networks", "frameworks", "compliance", "assessments", "assurance statements", "safeguards", "governance" and 100s of new acronyms, which all slow down the process of getting the job done, and adds considerable cost and time when one small detail is missed. No wonder 30 profit driven big businesses signed a letter backing the austerity cuts. ...if you don't have audit trails you don't have financial control of the company, most companies can't survive without computer networks, while without compliance your business will be out of control and not fit for purpose ..... HBOS RBS and NR all had their governance queried....these and the other terms you quoted are not guff ...just all key elements of doing business successfully today..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Woods? Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 ...if you don't have audit trails you don't have financial control of the company, most companies can't survive without computer networks, while without compliance your business will be out of control and not fit for purpose ..... HBOS RBS and NR all had their governance queried....these and the other terms you quoted are not guff ...just all key elements of doing business successfully today..... The problem arises when more time is spent on audit trails and gaming the system than actually doing work. Some companies I have worked would be a lot more efficient (I suspect) with less time spent counting whose pennies are whose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_duke_of_hazzard Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Hunter gatherers. Ideally, man goes out to work. Woman stays home looks after home and family. All right, fair enough - no chance, it's not going to happen any more, is it. But it's swung the other way now. Seems men don't get a look in, sometimes. Schools, for example, are awash with women, especially primary schools where it is common for nary a single male to be seen, and unusual if there is more than one, out of a staff of ten or fifteen or twenty or more. If that was reversed, think of the howls of "discrimination". The feminisation of our schools has wrought havoc. Women seem to loom large in the media as well - pretty, lightweight, twenty something clones who are so uncontroversial as to be bland, presenting weather or news and the rest of it, seem to far outnumber male counterparts. No doubt plenty of other examples. But the women's lib movement got their wretched "equality" for women and now they can fight for jobs along with men in the work place. How nice for them. All seems like a pile of poo to me. Primary schools are desperate to hire men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone baby gone Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 If women account for 75% of public sector employees, this means that they had an unfair advantage in the jobs market during the boom, with preferential treatment for the jobs that are more secure, have better pensions etc. than their private sector counterparts. Therefore it's only fair that they share the pain proportionally to that in a downturn. If women account for 75% of public sector employees, sounds like local and central government need to be brought to heel using the sexual equality legislation, as women certainly don't make up 75% of the total available workforce. Calling HPC's very own diversity consultant - Bloo Loo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricor mortis Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 If women account for 75% of public sector employees, sounds like local and central government need to be brought to heel using the sexual equality legislation, as women certainly don't make up 75% of the total available workforce. Calling HPC's very own diversity consultant - Bloo Loo... A lot of these jobs are part time and attract more female applicants. Having said that, I have had a feeling for a long time that there is discrimination against men in various fields, including retail for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarman001 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Hunter gatherers. Ideally, man goes out to work. Woman stays home looks after home and family. All right, fair enough - no chance, it's not going to happen any more, is it. But it's swung the other way now. Seems men don't get a look in, sometimes. Schools, for example, are awash with women, especially primary schools where it is common for nary a single male to be seen, and unusual if there is more than one, out of a staff of ten or fifteen or twenty or more. If that was reversed, think of the howls of "discrimination". The feminisation of our schools has wrought havoc. Women seem to loom large in the media as well - pretty, lightweight, twenty something clones who are so uncontroversial as to be bland, presenting weather or news and the rest of it, seem to far outnumber male counterparts. No doubt plenty of other examples. But the women's lib movement got their wretched "equality" for women and now they can fight for jobs along with men in the work place. How nice for them. All seems like a pile of poo to me. It's a bit of a cancer, isn't it? Some broad was on BBC News this morning... her job title was 'feminist'... wtf!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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