Jump to content
House Price Crash Forum
Sign in to follow this  
RichM

People With Norman Names Wealthier Than Other Britons

Recommended Posts

Someone yesterday posted on a land thread that the Normans stole all our land back in the day.

Im sure if you added up all the chavs with names like javon, chantelle etc you'd find, shock horror, theyre poorer than average.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Put a tax on Norman names.

When it was discovered that children with 12 or more books at home did better than others, some of the nulabour gurus suggested (seriously) that everyone else be given books to take home in order to improve their exam results.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I find the outcome surprising.. when you consider how many Carpenters must have married Lacys and vice-versa.

Even if wealth had survived in certain privileged circles.. you would think that plenty of handsome male Carpenters would have married aesthetically challenged Lacys resulting in wealth transfer between surnames, even if it remained in similar families.

It is amazing there is any correlation left at all after 1000 odd years.

It is interesting to discover though that I am patently not from a privileged class having never met a single Balliol, Baskerville, Bruce, Darcy, Glanville, Lacy, Mandeville or Venables in my life.

Perhaps it is just a small pool of names resulting in a statistical anomaly?

Edited by libspero

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If you've always had family with access to land (i.e. seized a thousand years ago), then you'll do better in life, presumably because you'll always be housed more cheaply than others.

Of course, there's been plenty of interbreeding over the years, but things like the Act of Enclosure (I think? happy to be corrected on this) have cemented the rights of land owners so the advantage was always there. Then the good old 1947 Town and Country Planning Act really skewered things for those without inherited wealth.

It does seem staggering. I'm all pro-land ownership, property rights etc etc, but some of this takes the michael. It could be undone as well if the 1947 was radically overhauled.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest The Relaxation Suite

Errr doesn't say a lot for social mobility in the UK, does it? 1000 years of privilege and still going strong.

An argument I have made over and over again. The elite in Britain are the world's most refined specialists in stealing property off the people. Look at this - 1000 years of locked-in inherent birth-right privilege maintained by gross nepotism and corruption. Look at the Enclosures Acts when nearly a quarter of the country was stolen from the people. Today a tiny fraction of a percentage of British residents own practically everything.

I'll add that my wife had a Norman/French aristocratic surname - and she was as poor as I am so not everyone with these sorts of names is rolling in it...!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Normans stole my Family`s vast areas of land they owned leaving my future ancestors scratching a living. :rolleyes:

Oh, "vast areas of land", eh? Oh, very nice... And how'd they get that, eh? By exploiting the workers! By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society! If there's ever gonna be any progress in our society...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Oh, "vast areas of land", eh? Oh, very nice... And how'd they get that, eh? By exploiting the workers! By hanging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society! If there's ever gonna be any progress in our society...

Old woman! Or should we just call you Denis?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have a Norman family name.

In the last three generations, the wealth of my family has fluctuated from lots, to nothing, to lots, to near bankruptcy, to lots, to well on the way to even more, which I will almost certainly get around to losing at some point.

I suspect there is a lot more mobility out there than the poor and ignorant care to recognise, other examples, Ian Fleming and John Milton.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
People With Norman Names Wealthier Than Other Britons

There's definitely something in this, y'know, just look at Norman Wisdom, Norman Tebbitt and Norman Lamont. None of them could be described as poor.

(One of them was a wise man, the other two are clowns).

PS I understand that my ancestors' family name used to be Norman, but in 1066 that got stolen from them too!

Edited by Dave Spart

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This 'research' was done by a professor of economics at the in California. That doesn't lend much credibility to it and certainly not in my eyes as someone who actually lives here and knows a thing or two about the country.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Errr doesn't say a lot for social mobility in the UK, does it? 1000 years of privilege and still going strong.

That they're only 10% better off now, as against 10,000,000% better off which they were, suggests social mobility, up and down, has had quite an effect.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The article says "Life expectancy is a strong indicator of socio-economic status"

Isn't it the other way round?! A comfortable lifestyle leads to higher life expectancy. What is the expectancy based on otherwise :blink:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • 312 Brexit, House prices and Summer 2020

    1. 1. Including the effects Brexit, where do you think average UK house prices will be relative to now in June 2020?


      • down 5% +
      • down 2.5%
      • Even
      • up 2.5%
      • up 5%



×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.