SarahBell Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 http://royaldutchshellplc.com/tag/fracking/ And there’s a formation, known as Bowland Shale, near Blackpool in North West England, that US company Cuadrilla Resources wants to start fracking this month. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/01/earthquake-shakes-blackpool The British Geological Survey recorded a tremor with a magnitude of 2.2 – rated as a minor earthquake. The epicentre was located between Carleton and Poulton industrial estate. (Tremor of 2.2 magnitude topples traffic lights, cracks railway bridge and prompts fears of burglary) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigantic Purple Slug Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 http://royaldutchshellplc.com/tag/fracking/ And there’s a formation, known as Bowland Shale, near Blackpool in North West England, that US company Cuadrilla Resources wants to start fracking this month. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/01/earthquake-shakes-blackpool The British Geological Survey recorded a tremor with a magnitude of 2.2 – rated as a minor earthquake. The epicentre was located between Carleton and Poulton industrial estate. (Tremor of 2.2 magnitude topples traffic lights, cracks railway bridge and prompts fears of burglary) Fracking technology is relatively new, so it's probably correct to say the full consequences of it are yet to be understood. However, I think it's very unlikely that it can cause earthquakes before the process actually starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 is this some kind of april fools joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicestersq Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 http://royaldutchshellplc.com/tag/fracking/ And there’s a formation, known as Bowland Shale, near Blackpool in North West England, that US company Cuadrilla Resources wants to start fracking this month. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/01/earthquake-shakes-blackpool The British Geological Survey recorded a tremor with a magnitude of 2.2 – rated as a minor earthquake. The epicentre was located between Carleton and Poulton industrial estate. (Tremor of 2.2 magnitude topples traffic lights, cracks railway bridge and prompts fears of burglary) Any hope of a tsunami? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted April 1, 2011 Author Share Posted April 1, 2011 Fracking technology is relatively new, so it's probably correct to say the full consequences of it are yet to be understood. However, I think it's very unlikely that it can cause earthquakes before the process actually starts. Has it not yet started? The article I posted was in March - and other items I've found said they did some fracking earlier in the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patfig Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Has it not yet started? The article I posted was in March - and other items I've found said they did some fracking earlier in the year. You cant beat a good frack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) Any hope of a tsunami? Saturday 3 weeks time, 3.00 kick off. Edited April 1, 2011 by Goat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigantic Purple Slug Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Has it not yet started? The article I posted was in March - and other items I've found said they did some fracking earlier in the year. Oh when you said this month I thought you meant April. Are you sure it shouldn't read fracking produces fear of buggery ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosh Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Saturday 3 weeks time, 3.00 kick off. I see what you did there .. Did Rodney Marsh?? lose his job on Sky Sports for a witty Sue Nami joke a few years ago. All the best Frack Lampard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/local/earthquake_no_barrier_to_jobs_1_3802365 The company had only been fracking – sending water and chemicals thousands of feet underground to break rock and release gas – a month when the earthquake struck Poulton and the process had to be suspended. So they had started fracking when the quake happened!! So does fracking cause quakes? The company has revealed it expects controversial shale gas drilling to bring hundreds of jobs and millions of pounds to the area’s economy – and CEO Mark Miller is confident the on-going investigation would not have an impact. Mr Miller said: “We assembled a team of specialists to look into the earthquake and they’ve spent most of the summer looking at all data available and assessing it. “We expect that report to be in a form ready to submit to Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC) by early October and, as soon as they’ve had a chance to look at it, it will be made public" Not a vested interest at all. What will happen to house prices in Fracking areas (What has happened in the states - I assume the poisoned ground water problems don't do much!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffy666 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 http://royaldutchshellplc.com/tag/fracking/ And there’s a formation, known as Bowland Shale, near Blackpool in North West England, that US company Cuadrilla Resources wants to start fracking this month. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/01/earthquake-shakes-blackpool The British Geological Survey recorded a tremor with a magnitude of 2.2 – rated as a minor earthquake. The epicentre was located between Carleton and Poulton industrial estate. (Tremor of 2.2 magnitude topples traffic lights, cracks railway bridge and prompts fears of burglary) Topples temporary traffic lights, if they are particularly unstable.. I'm generally dubious about shale gas, on the general grounds that there are cheaper and cleaner ways to generate electricity, but much of the negative stuff about Fracing seems completely fantasy-based.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffy666 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Fracking technology is relatively new, so it's probably correct to say the full consequences of it are yet to be understood. However, I think it's very unlikely that it can cause earthquakes before the process actually starts. Well.. Fracking was first used in primitive form in the 1800s.. by dropping a stick of dynamite down the well (usually oil at that time). Things have moved on a bit since then. The only possible dangers are: - If you are fracking fairly close to the surface, AND using aquifers close to the formation, then there is a small chance of cross contamination. - The whole process of shale gas extraction produces a fair amount of dirty water (IIRC) which needs careful disposal. Most old coal mining areas get frequent earthquakes of this kind of magnitude triggered by the collapse of old mine workings. It is not cause to run around with your hands in the air wailing 'WEEERRRREEEE ALLLLL DOOOMMMMED', although feel free if that floats your boat. Many seem to enjoy it.. (Ref: Fukushima..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzb Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 The man from the Global Warming Policy Foundation said yesterday this was the best news for the north-west region for 30 years. Whether he meant untold of wealth, or being finally finished off by massive earthquakes was not clear. However, it is said to be a massive resource near Blackpool, a really big find. Gas prices in the US collapsed after they got fracking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzb Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Vast reserves of shale gas revealed in UK The huge scale of a natural gas field discovered under the north-west of England has been revealed, potentially revolutionising the UK's energy outlook and creating thousands of jobs, but environmental groups are alarmed at the controversial method by which the gas is extracted. Preliminary wells drilled around Blackpool have uncovered 200 trillion cubic feet of gas – equal to the kind of recoverable reserves of big energy exporting countries such as Venezuela, according to Cuadrilla From the Grauniad http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/sep/21/gas-field-blackpool-dallas-sea Wonder if it is in any way true -the scale of the resource I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 "it's like a mini earthquake" Well there you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJay Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 The oil and gas prices are dropping through the floor. At the moment it's not a viable consideration. Once it's back to 120/140 barrel and gas at 4.5-5 then it will make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl1 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Vast reserves of shale gas revealed in UK The huge scale of a natural gas field discovered under the north-west of England has been revealed, potentially revolutionising the UK's energy outlook and creating thousands of jobs, but environmental groups are alarmed at the controversial method by which the gas is extracted. Preliminary wells drilled around Blackpool have uncovered 200 trillion cubic feet of gas – equal to the kind of recoverable reserves of big energy exporting countries such as Venezuela, according to Cuadrilla From the Grauniad http://www.guardian....pool-dallas-sea Wonder if it is in any way true -the scale of the resource I mean. Any experts on here care to answer this question? I'm intrigued as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cells Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 The oil and gas prices are dropping through the floor. At the moment it's not a viable consideration. Once it's back to 120/140 barrel and gas at 4.5-5 then it will make sense. It seems fracking in the states is viable at their $4 /mbtu while in europe we pay closer to $10 so it should be more than viable here As for quakes, it cant cause them that is done by the stored energy, it can release them which is more like a safety feature. if you could frack a large area cheaply it would be a way to stop earthquakes from happening in an area. so frack it once every quater to give you a mag 3 quake rather than let it build up for 50 years and get a mag 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cells Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Any experts on here care to answer this question? I'm intrigued as well. The amount of gas trapped in shale is vast, a LOT more than "conventional" gas. Question is how do you get to that gas at an affordable price. Luckyly the yanks figured a way & the likely progress of tech will mean more and more shale gets accessable with time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skomer Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) The amount of gas trapped in shale is vast, a LOT more than "conventional" gas. Question is how do you get to that gas at an affordable price. Luckyly the yanks figured a way & the likely progress of tech will mean more and more shale gets accessable with time I'm a bit wary but the estimates from the Bowland Basin are way above expectations if they prove to be correct ... If so and 5.6 trillion cubic metres is recoverable economically then what would be the effect on the UK's balance of trade and our ability to repay our debt? Anyone know how much the imports of LNG or gas from Norway cost us at the moment? This could be a game changer ? Perhaps the biggest news of the week for the UK - yet i have not seen much mention in the media or on here about it http://www.icis.com/heren/articles/2011/09/21/9494141/cuadrilla-claims-game-change-in-uk-shale-gas-reserves.html "...... The number mentioned is staggering, but until recoverable reserves have been estimated and production rates have been calculated there is no way you can tell what effect it will have on the market," one NBP trader said. "At those figures they are above the UK current demand level [around 100 billion cubic metres/year] if they produce for 50 years from that site. This really could alter the market in the way that it did in the [uS]," another said. Edited September 23, 2011 by skomer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Lorne Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 ...Blackpool rock takes on a (w)hole new meaning..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walton Goggins Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Question is, do you ever want to be able to drink the tapwater again?? CSI Las Vegas had an excellent episode about the dangers of fracking, fitting really, being Blackpool is the Vegas of the north, well, kinda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 CSI Las Vegas had an excellent episode about the dangers of fracking, fitting really, being Blackpool is the Vegas of the north, well, kinda. They did! But maybe the feeling is you could do an awful lot to Blackpool before people noticed it was getting worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northwestsmith2 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) And again, for those who didn't see it (zoom to 2m 20s)... How is that related to fracking? Edited October 3, 2011 by northwestsmith2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hun Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Question is, do you ever want to be able to drink the tapwater again?? The tap water in the north west comes from rain water in reservoirs doesn't it? I don't even know if groundwater is a major source in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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