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Things are really coming home to roost. I still don't understand how the UK economy can be planned to "grow."

Self-delusional old farts in BoE and numerous government-sponsored future prediction bodies just keep on mumbling.

The sooner we shake off consumerism and imperial snobbery the better is our chance for survival.

We may still carve out a reasonably good niche in the second world countries ranking but even this need humility and hard work.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12885271

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Weren't house prices going to cost a million soon, according to previous extrapolations? <_<

Who knows what will happen, but drawing a straight line and calling it the future is unconvincing.

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Hey great. US and European companies can start ripping off Chinese intellectual property. Actually, that might be a bit hard as there's hardly any Chinese IP of any value -- the Chinese are just cross-referencing their own second-rate research in their own journals in order to get this one statistic increased.

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So apart from the compass, gunpowder, water clock...what did the Chinese ever discover?

(cue list)

Too right! Just because they discovered paper they think they own all the money in the world....wait on :huh:

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some interesting things .

the bank note, belt drive, blast furnace, borehole drilling, bristle toothbrush, bulkhead partition. guess what letter im currently looking at on..... :)

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Trouble is - they hadn't thought to invent the 'patent'. So they've decided to ignore them.

http://en.wikipedia....nese_inventions

EDIT: Indeed, I don't think they were too happy when we nicked some tea plants and set up a rival plantation in India and the secret of making high quality ceramics to the potteries (hence all those Chinese patterns). Long memories this lot.

Yeah, but they managed to undercut our Indian opium in the end.....not that they mention that fact much ;)

The Chinese have been tremendously creative throughout their history. This was partly to do with Confucianism as Confucius advocated the study of the Six Arts which led to Chinese men aspiring to being somewhat similar to our idea of a Renaissance man. This was lost later on, leading to the Chinese decline. A good synopsis can be found below

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Arts

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the problem was, they became too insular and shut themselves out from the rest of the world so they fell behind, they are only just starting to open up again.

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Trouble is - they hadn't thought to invent the 'patent'. So they've decided to ignore them.

http://en.wikipedia....nese_inventions

EDIT: Indeed, I don't think they were too happy when we nicked some tea plants and set up a rival plantation in India and the secret of making high quality ceramics to the potteries (hence all those Chinese patterns). Long memories this lot.

So apart from the compass, gunpowder, water clock...what did the Chinese ever discover?

(cue list)

The below is more rescently

Wu's Method by Wu Wenjun

Wu's Method is selected because it infuses vigor into traditional Chinese mathematics.

Wu Wenjun is the creator of Wu's Method, a computerized method for geometrical theorem proving. He inherits and carries forward the traditions of China's ancient mathematics, and turns to studies of mechanical proof of geometrical theorems. His study has completely changed look of the field.

Wu's method has revived "traditional Chinese mathematic thoughtways". Western mathematics has gained upper hand since Newton invented calculous, and the traditional Chinese mathematics has been marginalized. Inspired by ancient Chinese mathematics, by linking up theories of computer, Wu invented "Wu's Method".

Comment: Wu's Method has not come up with any major fruits though it is a ground-breaking method. A mathematic method ought to be of practical use.

Hybrid rice by Yuan Longping

Yuan's hybrid rice is selected because it is hailed as "the second green revolution" and helps solve the global food problems.

Hybrid paddy rice is named "oriental magic rice" in the West. Yuan's achievement not only solves the food problem for Chinese people, but is regarded as a magic weapon to solve the global food problems in next century. The hybrid rice is hailed as the fifth great invention of China and the "second green revolution".

Yuan Longping's hybrid rice is innovation on the shoulders of forerunners, because foreign scientists had conducted researches of hybrid wheat before. Yet Yuan's contribution to hybrid rice is indisputable.

Synthesized crystalline bovine insulin, a collective work

Synthesized crystalline bovine insulin is selected because it is the first time that human have synthesized living body.

Chinese scientists succeeded in synthesizing crystalline bovine insulin on Sept 17, 1965, signifying a crucial step in the course of understanding life and exploring life's secrets.

This is the first time that zoetic protein has been synthesized by human in history. In the past it is a universal belief that man can by no means synthesize living body.

Comment: Other countries have carried out similar researches and synthesized a lot of living materials. China has lost the lead in this regard.

Land facies oil-forming theory by Li Siguang

The land facies oil-forming theory is selected because it brings "oil deficiency" in China to an end.

The land facies oil-forming theory plays a crucial role in construction of China's Daqing, Dagang and Shengli oilfields.

Before the theory was created, people believed that big oil fields can only be formed in sea facies stratum. This is the reason why westerners thought China was oil deficient.

Chinese scientists set forth the theory that big oil fields can be formed in land facies stratum if conditions are appropriate. The breakthrough in fundamental theory enabled Chinese people to discover the oil and gas reserves beneath their feet.

Comment: Compared with sea facies oil-forming, the theory contributes much less to utilization of oil because great majority of oil fields in the world are still sea facies strata.

Commentator: Wang Yusheng, curator of China Science and Technology Museum, an expert on history of science and technology.

By People's Daily Online

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I read recently that almost two thirds of UK graduates of some engineering disciplines cannot get work after graduating. Many many thousands.

That at a time when they saying more and more young people should go into engineering and there's a terrible shortage of engineers. The same old story that they've been claiming it seems since almost forever.

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Trouble is - they hadn't thought to invent the 'patent'. So they've decided to ignore them.

http://en.wikipedia....nese_inventions

EDIT: Indeed, I don't think they were too happy when we nicked some tea plants and set up a rival plantation in India and the secret of making high quality ceramics to the potteries (hence all those Chinese patterns). Long memories this lot.

And you telling me that UK is a lot better.

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at least the UK is still third on the list which is a good thing.

now we just need a system to put some of it into use, its that second phase making something tangible out of ideas, that we lack.

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