sowhat Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 bbc news 64 year old eric with his voluntary redundancy has 'dropped on' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Creation Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 bbc news 64 year old eric with his voluntary redundancy has 'dropped on' I'd keep about six of that lot. I'm sure the rest will be absorbed by the private sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantnrave Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 The Harpers sound a bit worried... We have just bought a decrepit house to renovate. This was a big decision, and a big risk, given we both work in the public sector, which faces huge cuts. The falling euro is eroding our profit on the sale of our property abroad, the UK housing market is stagnant, and the cost of our renovation project is increasing. We are wondering if we have made the right decision or should have just sat tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Claire Lee25 Biology teacher I have an MSc, Diploma in Education, classroom assistant experience and a mortgage and wedding to pay for. My concerns include increased classroom sizes with fewer support assistants, fewer opportunities for promotion, and limited funding for practical experiments. Increased pension payments, pay freezes and limitations regarding satisfactory work life balance are a personal worry. my heart bleeds Christopher Denson 29 Physics teacher, Tile Hill Wood School It's likely to be very difficult for Coventry as a whole. The government is using the fact that we had a budget deficit to attack the workers in the public sector. The speed at which changes are being made is frightening. Our school is in the process of applying for academy status, which will have a disastrous effect not only on our pupils, but also on the most deprived students from across the city. you too Alayna May-Browne, 34, Policy Co-ordination Manager at Becta what is a policy co-ordination manager and how much does it earn?? one thing that stands out, or seems to, is that the younger they are, the greater sense of entitlement comes out in their writing, especially teachers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 The Harpers sound a bit worried... We have just bought a decrepit house to renovate. This was a big decision, and a big risk, given we both work in the public sector, which faces huge cuts. The falling euro is eroding our profit on the sale of our property abroad, the UK housing market is stagnant, and the cost of our renovation project is increasing. We are wondering if we have made the right decision or should have just sat tight. what is it with teachers and property speculation? I've seen this quite a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepLurker Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 To be fair, teaching does seem like holding a sh!tty stick nowadays - I know a primary school teacher who has got to handle 60 rugrats. She's got "teaching assistants" to help her, but it's still no way to bring up our future. But never mind, the number of P@n!s Enhancing Porsche Cayennes is increasing, so we've still got our priorities right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12751298 I think that it's safe to say that, without an enforced exit from what was a successful career that I was happy in, how can you call something succesful when it is entirely surplus to requirements? this reminds me of some Yes Minister episodes where there were whole hospitals and offices without any work to do - but they were terribly efficient Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 To be fair, teaching does seem like holding a sh!tty stick nowadays - I know a primary school teacher who has got to handle 60 rugrats. She's got "teaching assistants" to help her, but it's still no way to bring up our future. But never mind, the number of P@n!s Enhancing Porsche Cayennes is increasing, so we've still got our priorities right I'd have little problem with teachers earning a decent salary, better than they did before 2000, certainly, but the troughing from teachers has been one of the most overt elements of the public sector boom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Monk Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I like this comment. I am a poet, father, community activist, and union rep cum Data Protection Officer at the Skills Funding Agency. I will be a Green Party candidate for Coventry Council in May. These cuts are unnecessary. The simple answer is that there is no value added by this person's job. There is nothing earned by UK PLC through it. People who once did productive work are now stood idle and paying no taxes, so this person's job cannot be afforded any more. The situation reminds me of that when I lived in Russia in the 1990s, when hotels would employ a ferocious old woman on each floor of the hotel, every escalator on the Metro had people employed to monitor their use, and road bridges had a booth at each end with someone employed to check whether the German army was about to march over it, all simply to create pretend jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I like this comment. The simple answer is that there is no value added by this person's job. There is nothing earned by UK PLC through it. People who once did productive work are now stood idle and paying no taxes, so this person's job cannot be afforded any more. The situation reminds me of that when I lived in Russia in the 1990s, when hotels would employ a ferocious old woman on each floor of the hotel, every escalator on the Metro had people employed to monitor their use, and road bridges had a booth at each end with someone employed to check whether the German army was about to march over it, all simply to create pretend jobs. nothing like a bit of Diversity management to help Coventry become World leaders http://www.coventry.gov.uk/info/344/equal_opportunities_information/855/equality_and_community_cohesion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantnrave Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 To be fair, teaching does seem like holding a sh!tty stick nowadays - I know a primary school teacher who has got to handle 60 rugrats. She's got "teaching assistants" to help her, but it's still no way to bring up our future. I wouldn't mind teaching kids who actually wanted to learn - but that's the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I wouldn't mind teaching kids who actually wanted to learn - but that's the problem. The consequence I'm afraid of taxing the productive out of existance whilst paying the uneducated to breed like rabbits: classrooms full of kids just marking time until they're old enough to sign on for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clocker Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 what is it with teachers and property speculation? I've seen this quite a bit Teachers would be too smart to speculate on property - wouldn't they ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikthe20 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Teachers would be too smart to speculate on property - wouldn't they ?? I thought Les Dawson was dead?! And who's that bloke sitting down wearing the burgundy jacket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Creation Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I like this comment. The simple answer is that there is no value added by this person's job. There is nothing earned by UK PLC through it. People who once did productive work are now stood idle and paying no taxes, so this person's job cannot be afforded any more. The situation reminds me of that when I lived in Russia in the 1990s, when hotels would employ a ferocious old woman on each floor of the hotel, every escalator on the Metro had people employed to monitor their use, and road bridges had a booth at each end with someone employed to check whether the German army was about to march over it, all simply to create pretend jobs. Yeah, old Merle sounds a delight. What were you doing in Russia, Harry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 my heart bleeds you too what is a policy co-ordination manager and how much does it earn?? one thing that stands out, or seems to, is that the younger they are, the greater sense of entitlement comes out in their writing, especially teachers Interesting to note that not one teacher appears to have defended themselves on this site. Perhaps they haven't the time to post 11600 posts of bitter inverted snobbery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xurbia Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 (edited) You would have thought that Sunairah Miraj, the Employment advisor to Coventry City Council, would have been safe. TOP MISERYGUTS POSTING: Flo Swann & Simon Harper: We have just bought a decrepit house to renovate. This was a big decision, and a big risk, given we both work in the public sector, which faces huge cuts. The falling euro is eroding our profit on the sale of our property abroad, the UK housing market is stagnant, and the cost of our renovation project is increasing. We are wondering if we have made the right decision or should have just sat tight. How terrible. Their profit is eroding on their overseas property. Yes it was a big risk you dimwits. Merle Gering, 62, Data Protection Officer, Skills Funding Agency: I am a poet, father, community activist, and union rep cum Data Protection Officer at the Skills Funding Agency. I will be a Green Party candidate for Coventry Council in May. These cuts are unnecessary. More than £120bn pounds a year could be raised by going after taxes that are avoided and evaded. Why should we pay tax and lose our jobs, while others get off free? This guy is a complete sausage jockey. What the hell is a community activist? It sounds like someone who needs to be beaten up. The country could have saved 120billion pounds by not wasting public money on w@nkers like him in the first place. The council must have a random job title generator. Edited March 28, 2011 by Xurbia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xurbia Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 (edited) Interesting to note that not one teacher appears to have defended themselves on this site. Perhaps they haven't the time to post 11600 posts of bitter inverted snobbery. Yes, they probably don't have the time to fit it during the 6 months' of holiday and having sex with the pupils. Edited March 28, 2011 by Xurbia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy_renting Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 What is the point of these BBC pages? Why are they comparing public sector workers with private companies instead of private sector workers? Do they report here on the personal hardships of private sector workers over the past few years? No. The resultant unemployed? No. Most companies will put a positive spin on their outlook in order to boost the confidence of their clients and suppliers. Most of the upper civil servants & ministers would put a positive spin on the performance and outlook of their organisations too, but theyaren't asked for comparison. Are they going to complain that the growth of the private sector is to be envied and restricted, even though it will be essential in order to fund and sustain the public sector? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xurbia Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) What is the point of these BBC pages? Why are they comparing public sector workers with private companies instead of private sector workers? Do they report here on the personal hardships of private sector workers over the past few years? No. The resultant unemployed? No. Most companies will put a positive spin on their outlook in order to boost the confidence of their clients and suppliers. Most of the upper civil servants & ministers would put a positive spin on the performance and outlook of their organisations too, but theyaren't asked for comparison. Are they going to complain that the growth of the private sector is to be envied and restricted, even though it will be essential in order to fund and sustain the public sector? The BBC are public employees and are effectively Labour supporters. They have been well paid over the last 14 years for wasting taxpayer monies. Now that the trough is empty they want to attribute the blame to the coalition. I don't remember the BBC doing anything to stop the outsourcing of private jobs. All I remember is the BBC capitulating the whole corporation to Blair after the Dr David Kelly (R.I.P.) debacle. Here in the USA everyone thinks the BBC is unbiased but I'd suggest it is very left-wing. Edited March 29, 2011 by Xurbia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Relaxation Suite Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 The BBC are public employees and are effectively Labour supporters. They have been well paid over the last 14 years for wasting taxpayer monies. Now that the trough is empty they want to attribute the blame to the coalition. I don't remember the BBC doing anything to stop the outsourcing of private jobs. All I remember is the BBC capitulating the whole corporation to Blair after the Dr David Kelly (R.I.P.) debacle. Here in the USA everyone thinks the BBC is unbiased but I'd suggest it is very left-wing. It's not "very left-wing" but I agree there is a bias. It seems obvious to me anyway. I mean very left-wing is Stalin or Pol Pot. The BBC has a more Euro-centric social-democrat thing going on because of who constitute its staff. I'm not so opposed to this any more anyway, although I still remain opposed to media bias of any form - like the preposterous Fox News in the US for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xurbia Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 It's not "very left-wing" but I agree there is a bias. It seems obvious to me anyway. I mean very left-wing is Stalin or Pol Pot. The BBC has a more Euro-centric social-democrat thing going on because of who constitute its staff. I'm not so opposed to this any more anyway, although I still remain opposed to media bias of any form - like the preposterous Fox News in the US for example. Fox news is awful crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Relaxation Suite Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Fox news is awful crap. It really is. I like France 24 but it's very hard to follow if you're not a good French speaker. I rate BBC news as well despite the bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xurbia Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) It really is. I like France 24 but it's very hard to follow if you're not a good French speaker. I rate BBC news as well despite the bias. I watch BBC America occasionally but my opinion of the BBC will always be tainted by the Dr David Kelly murder. The BBC capitulated to Labour after Blair's WMD nonsense. They could have destroyed Labour after the truth emerged. Perhaps they were all bribed or threatened? When I was growing up, the BBC represented the truth. They spin the stories just like Labour spun the truth. The BBC should just get back to making decent drama and reporting the facts. The licence fee (tax) should not be used to spout political bias. I think BBC should keep one radio channel for news and get rid of all the rest. I've never understood why the radio stations are free (paid via the licence fee). It's all waste in my opinion, especially Radio 1. FOX news is comical and openly ridiculed in Seattle. I prefer to watch local news channels. CNN is okay but they like to make every story sensational. Edited March 29, 2011 by Xurbia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Relaxation Suite Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) I watch BBC America occasionally but my opinion of the BBC will always be tainted by the Dr David Kelly murder. The BBC capitulated to Labour after Blair's WMD nonsense. They could have destroyed Labour after the truth emerged. Perhaps they were all bribed or threatened? When I was growing up, the BBC represented the truth. They spin the stories just like Labour spun the truth. The BBC should just get back to making decent drama and reporting the facts. The licence fee (tax) should not be used to spout political bias. I think BBC should keep one radio channel for news and get rid of all the rest. I've never understood why the radio stations are free (paid via the licence fee). It's all waste in my opinion, especially Radio 1. FOX news is comical and openly ridiculed in Seattle. I prefer to watch local news channels. CNN is okay but they like to make every story sensational. I agree about Kelly. Obviously I don't know the facts about any of it (who does?) but it all seems very murky to me and I know they're not above it. Did you see the Michael Cockerell programmes about the British political establishment? In one of them Joe Haines, Harold Wilson's press secretary claimed quite openly that Wilson's doctor - a Joseph Stone offered to murder Marcia Williams, Wilson's head of political office because she had too much power over Wilson. At first I thought they were talking about getting rid of her as in firing her, but then it was made clear they meant killing her because he said he would write a dodgy death certificate. We only have Haines's word for this, but it wouldn't surprise me. I mean, if someone had nodded their heads to this suggestion she would have been knocked off, just like that, I suppose. Edited March 29, 2011 by Tecumseh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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