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We Should Vote The Lib/cons Out After The 2011Budget

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Shame they must have forgot, the budget was rubbish, it put the presure to pay back the debt onto the people, while allowing the rich to benefit from the new tax rules on housing, they are trying to keep up the price of land, didnt any of you read the link, they are trying to push up the cost of homes once big companies see the benefits you can forget about owning a home in this country.

so what?

they are funding their mates.

are they cracking out the credit cards and spending your children's future though?

I can't change anything. I don't like what is happening but I would rather the tories do what they are than have the champagne socialists buy votes with cash that my daughter wont have.

Fk labour, Fk the tories, Fk voting and Fk everyone that doesnt get that.

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It must be true 'cos an opinion poll said so. Thank God we the tories have Osborne, who is no way shifty and just like the average kind of old etonian bloke you'd find soliciting party donations on the yacht of a russian billionaire.

It is true. The Tories should be low twenties in the opinion polls at the moment. Student riots, worst cuts for a generation, etc, etc. Yet they are polling more than they polled at the GE.

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It must be true 'cos an opinion poll said so. Thank God we the tories have Osborne, who is no way shifty and just like the average kind of old etonian bloke you'd find soliciting party donations on the yacht of a russian billionaire.

Some people really do need to get a grip on this whole class hate thing.

It really shouldn't matter where someone goes to school whether it's Wycombe Abbey or a sink estate in Manchester. Quite sad really.

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Some people really do need to get a grip on this whole class hate thing.

It really shouldn't matter where someone goes to school whether it's Wycombe Abbey or a sink estate in Manchester. Quite sad really.

what?

ofcourse it matters.

not only is there a better standard of education but they are set on the old boys path.

It shouldnt matter but reality is very different. If Milliband went to blackpool comp do you think that you would know who he is now?

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so what?

they are funding their mates.

are they cracking out the credit cards and spending your children's future though?

I can't change anything. I don't like what is happening but I would rather the tories do what they are than have the champagne socialists buy votes with cash that my daughter wont have.

Fk labour, Fk the tories, Fk voting and Fk everyone that doesnt get that.

If you voted labour we would have hit the bottom, press the reset button, and your daughter would not have to pay it back but tories are in and its going to be a hard long ride for the working folks in the UK, and your daughter will never get to own a home now, once big companies see the benefit britian will turn to a nation of renters run by large coporations and you never be able to save.

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Some people really do need to get a grip on this whole class hate thing.

It really shouldn't matter where someone goes to school whether it's Wycombe Abbey or a sink estate in Manchester. Quite sad really.

Balls is a public school boy and then off to the elitist Oxford.

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If you voted labour we would have hit the bottom, press the reset button, and your daughter would not have to pay it back but tories are in and its going to be a hard long ride for the working folks in the UK, and your daughter will never get to own a home now, once big companies see the benefit britian will turn to a nation of renters run by large coporations and you never be able to save.

what?

we would have hit bottom because their wreckless spending on a bloated public sector would cause a bond strike?

How the fk would that mess would be better when the £ is at parity with the $?

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If you voted labour we would have hit the bottom, press the reset button, and your daughter would not have to pay it back but tories are in and its going to be a hard long ride for the working folks in the UK, and your daughter will never get to own a home now, once big companies see the benefit britian will turn to a nation of renters run by large coporations and you never be able to save.

I thought your OP was daft. This comment is worrying.

Simples (Squeek) :lol:

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what?

ofcourse it matters.

not only is there a better standard of education but they are set on the old boys path.

It shouldnt matter but reality is very different. If Milliband went to blackpool comp do you think that you would know who he is now?

You missed my point. Whether being privately educated makes him the best candidate (as you suggest) or not, it is a shame that a persons educational background (whether good or bad) should be used to judge the person doing the job over their actual ability.

And no, if I discovered that a politician went to Blackpool comp I would not treat them any differently.

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Balls is a public school boy and then off to the elitist Oxford.

Loads of people go to Oxford / Cambridge / UCL etc etc..

I am not bright enough to have been to any of those.. but I know people who have and they were not "Elite".. they were smart, hard-working, academic types.

Is it REALLY surprising that bright people from top universities end up getting top jobs?

I don't think it's quite as conspiratorial as you think.. :blink:

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I thought your OP was daft. This comment is worrying.

Simples (Squeek) :lol:

Mark my words iam right, have been since i join this forum, if you voting for tories you in for one long ride, its different to all other times, we live in a global market and labour is very expensive in this country. The chance of owning your home is this country has just got harder and the chances of you renting for large companies is almost a dead cert now. whats really worrying is that you can't even see whats going to happen, but then again 80% of people in this country are of lesser intelligence and have no understanding of what will happen.

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You missed my point. Whether being privately educated makes him the best candidate (as you suggest) or not, it is a shame that a persons educational background (whether good or bad) should be used to judge the person doing the job over their actual ability.

And no, if I discovered that a politician went to Blackpool comp I would not treat them any differently.

But it is their educational background that gets them selected. Not on merit but because of where they were educated. It is about money not ability. The wealthy families put their offspring through institutions like eton. They are set on a path, a path of greatness, the old boys path.

Wake up.

I dont agree with it either but at least I understand it.

I wouldnt expect you to treat the boy wonder Milliband any differently had he been educated at Blackpool comp but the point is that you wouldnt even know his name because there is no possibility of him reaching the upper echelons with such a background. He would be a nothing like the rest of us.

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I also don't really get the reputation amongst some on here for the Tories being massively fiscally responsible.

During the last time they were in charge we had a massive housing bubble and bust, a currency collapse, dodgy privatisations that have caused more harm than good, public services that were rubbish and the national debt increased every year.

Labour might have been shite but I've seen no evidence in past or current performance that shows they will be any better for the average person.

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I also don't really get the reputation amongst some on here for the Tories being massively fiscally responsible.

During the last time they were in charge we had a massive housing bubble and bust, a currency collapse, dodgy privatisations that have caused more harm than good, public services that were rubbish and the national debt increased every year.

Labour might have been shite but I've seen no evidence in past or current performance that shows they will be any better for the average person.

They inherited a mess. Labour took on a healthy economy and made a mess, again.

Labour have achieved all of the things that you list during their time. Maybe you need to look a little further back.

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Some people really do need to get a grip on this whole class hate thing.

It really shouldn't matter where someone goes to school whether it's Wycombe Abbey or a sink estate in Manchester. Quite sad really.

Wake up man! His position is solely due to his background, his connections and the school he went to, not his "ability to do the job". I'm not some chippy working class churl-I happen to be state-school educated, but also have a 1st class degree from Cambridge, and am a University Professor and am younger than Osbourne. I am iredeemingly middle class but it is clear as day to me that he is Chancellor primarily due to privilege not ability!

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Mark my words iam right, have been since i join this forum, if you voting for tories you in for one long ride, its different to all other times, we live in a global market and labour is very expensive in this country. The chance of owning your home is this country has just got harder and the chances of you renting for large companies is almost a dead cert now. whats really worrying is that you can't even see whats going to happen, but then again 80% of people in this country are of lesser intelligence and have no understanding of what will happen.

Perhaps you'd like to explain why we have spent the last 13 years making ourselves uncompetitive then.

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Perhaps you'd like to explain why we have spent the last 13 years making ourselves uncompetitive then.

We have become uncompetitive because of house prices, labour restricted building, pushed people that would have got social housing into the private sector pushing up demand etc.. now the cons are giving tax breaks to large companies in property same thing really, they both had /have big business interests over working people. Once you learn that you'll understand why No to vote for them in ie the top 3 parties are the same. 1980s con set the path, labour followed and now the cons are doing the same.

One thing they should do it cut any translation services thats a must, if you dont understand bring your friend etc.

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They inherited a mess. Labour took on a healthy economy and made a mess, again.

Labour have achieved all of the things that you list during their time. Maybe you need to look a little further back.

Oh... but of course. Actually the level of debt as a percentage of GDP was a lot lower in 2007 than it was in 1997. It's because of the bank bail out that it went pear shaped since. So... next time someone comes along and says, Labour inherited a healthy economy, OK - they got it even healthier, but the banks went and screwed it all up.

Oh yes, and one other thing. Go back to 1997 - go back to massive hospital waiting lists, go back to more crime if you want. Yes - it peaked in 1997, and Gordon was far from perfect. But don't tell me that the coalition will do a better job of it. Growth negative again? Unemployment en masse just around the corner? Have people really forgotten how bad things were under Thatcher? Well, time to wake up... because you'll be remembering it soon.

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Oh... but of course. Actually the level of debt as a percentage of GDP was a lot lower in 2007 than it was in 1997. It's because of the bank bail out that it went pear shaped since. So... next time someone comes along and says, Labour inherited a healthy economy, OK - they got it even healthier, but the banks went and screwed it all up.

Oh yes, and one other thing. Go back to 1997 - go back to massive hospital waiting lists, go back to more crime if you want. Yes - it peaked in 1997, and Gordon was far from perfect. But don't tell me that the coalition will do a better job of it. Growth negative again? Unemployment en masse just around the corner? Have people really forgotten how bad things were under Thatcher? Well, time to wake up... because you'll be remembering it soon.

really?

i cant even be bothered to reach the shift key and make my i a capital let alone find the figures.

waiting lists went down did they? was that at the same time as all of the targets were changed and no one could even get a doctors appointment in the same week?

crime - are you seriously trying to say that it improved rather than being fudged?

Thatcher closed mines that were bleeding the tax payer. She closed the mines because greedy miners were costing more than we could afford. She should have done it sooner than she did and used more police, that was her only mistake.

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Thatcher closed mines that were bleeding the tax payer. She closed the mines because greedy miners were costing more than we could afford. She should have done it sooner than she did and used more police, that was her only mistake.

In a Democracy we are free to have opinions. :rolleyes:

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No.

They had a chance, they blew it.

After that budget we know that they have every intention of selling out the country in order to re-establish feudalism.

I voted for the coalition, but never again.

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Wake up man! His position is solely due to his background, his connections and the school he went to, not his "ability to do the job". I'm not some chippy working class churl-I happen to be state-school educated, but also have a 1st class degree from Cambridge, and am a University Professor and am younger than Osbourne. I am iredeemingly middle class but it is clear as day to me that he is Chancellor primarily due to privilege not ability!

...sure ..sure...and Gordon Brown got there on ability....I thought you guys were clear thinkers....live in the real world.. . :rolleyes:

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