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Work For Prisoners And Unemployed - Fight The Cheap Labour Costs In Asia

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Work for prisoners and unemployed - fight the cheap labour costs in Asia

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/03/prisoners-help-build-patriot-missiles/

But what makes those eye-popping sums even more shocking is that some of the workers manufacturing parts for those Patriot missiles are prisoners, earning as little as 23 cents an hour. (Credit Justin Rohrlich with the catch.)

The work is done by Unicor, previously known as Federal Prison Industries. It’s a government-owned corporation, established during the Depression, that employs about 20,000 inmates in 70 prisons to make everything from clothing to office furniture to solar panels to military electronics.

One of the company’s high-tech specialties: Patriot missile parts. “UNICOR/FPI supplies numerous electronic components and services for guided missiles, including the Patriot Advanced Capability (PAC-3) missile,” Unicor’s website explains. “We assemble and distribute the Intermediate Frequency Processor (IFP) for the PAC-3s seeker. The IFP receives and filters radio-frequency signals that guide the missile toward its target.”

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It's what powers America.

Been discussed before either here or on QI.

:)

It's a great idea.

No, it's a terrible idea.

As well as slavery being utterly evil, it gives the authorities a vested monetary interest in making up new crimes to get their hands on more cheap labour.

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No, it's a terrible idea.

As well as slavery being utterly evil, it gives the authorities a vested monetary interest in making up new crimes to get their hands on more cheap labour.

LOL, exactly my thoughts, they have reintroduced slavery by the back door. It reminds me of nazi work-camps, but then that's not really surprising given that the US is hell bent on becoming a fascist nation.

Furthermore this is just another way of taking away jobs from the common people.

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No, it's a terrible idea.

As well as slavery being utterly evil, it gives the authorities a vested monetary interest in making up new crimes to get their hands on more cheap labour.

Right thats 20 years hard labour for you for telling the truth!!

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No, it's a terrible idea.

As well as slavery being utterly evil, it gives the authorities a vested monetary interest in making up new crimes to get their hands on more cheap labour.

Most people in US jails are for non violent drug offences, which isn't a crime in my eyes

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No, it's a terrible idea.

As well as slavery being utterly evil, it gives the authorities a vested monetary interest in making up new crimes to get their hands on more cheap labour.

... only if the costs of the trial and the prison and the prison guards and feeding and clothing and housing the prisoners amounts to less than simply paying staff NMW ;)

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... only if the costs of the trial and the prison and the prison guards and feeding and clothing and housing the prisoners amounts to less than simply paying staff NMW ;)

The prison guards, judges and feeding and clothing the prisoners is paid for by the taxpayer.

The profits go to private hands.

Privatised profits, socialised losses.

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The prison guards, judges and feeding and clothing the prisoners is paid for by the taxpayer.

The profits go to private hands.

Privatised profits, socialised losses.

so it is better to keep prisoners idle .... logic fails me ... :(

apparently it costs about £40k a year to imprison somebody ... not sure why only the tax payer should pay for it and the prisoner can not help at all ...

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so it is better to keep prisoners idle .... logic fails me ... :(

apparently it costs about £40k a year to imprison somebody ... not sure why only the tax payer should pay for it and the prisoner can not help at all ...

No, it's better to have a lot less prisoners in the first place.

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No, it's a terrible idea.

As well as slavery being utterly evil, it gives the authorities a vested monetary interest in making up new crimes to get their hands on more cheap labour.

Police and prison officers are already motivated to get more "customers" ... nothing new here ...

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Police and prison officers are already motivated to get more "customers" ... nothing new here ...

They don't make the laws - the shareholders of these companies will.

how many new laws under labour?

How many of them needed?

And who profits?

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They don't make the laws - the shareholders of these companies will.

how many new laws under labour?

How many of them needed?

And who profits?

interestingly it does not effect US at all ...

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Never thought you would be an advocate for capital punishment.

I'm not.

I'm an advocate for laws based on facts, if we are to have laws at all, and no law whatsoever would be the obvious logical ideal.

This would mean if we just go with law for a moment to avoid controversy, that drink driving was no longer an offence, nor would be taking drugs. Drink crashing would be an offence, however.

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I'm not.

I'm an advocate for laws based on facts, if we are to have laws at all, and no law whatsoever would be the obvious logical ideal.

This would mean if we just go with law for a moment to avoid controversy, that drink driving was no longer an offence, nor would be taking drugs. Drink crashing would be an offence, however.

hmm ... the words fail me ... I would not like to live in your sociaty ....

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I'm not.

I'm an advocate for laws based on facts, if we are to have laws at all, and no law whatsoever would be the obvious logical ideal.

This would mean if we just go with law for a moment to avoid controversy, that drink driving was no longer an offence, nor would be taking drugs. Drink crashing would be an offence, however.

What about DUI where you cause others to crash but don't crash yourself? Would that be an offence? What about missing someone by millimetres and scaring them silly whilst drunk in your car. Would that be an offence?

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They don't make the laws - the shareholders of these companies will.

how many new laws under labour?

How many of them needed?

And who profits?

it is the citizens responsibility who is making the laws ... not yours ....

if people are happy with Labour or Tories in power you will have to accept it ...

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What about DUI where you cause others to crash but don't crash yourself? Would that be an offence? What about missing someone by millimetres and scaring them silly whilst drunk in your car. Would that be an offence?

Injin, next time you fly for a holliday ask for a drunk pilot ... it can solve your problems for ever ..

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More deranged ill thought out fantasies from the rabid right.

If Prisoners can have the right to vote, they’ll get the right to earn mw for their labour. This kind of defeats the objective of enforced slave labour (and rightly so).

Dream on.

:lol:

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More deranged ill thought out fantasies from the rabid right.

If Prisoners can have the right to vote, they'll get the right to earn mw for their labour. This kind of defeats the objective of enforced slave labour (and rightly so).

Dream on.

:lol:

OK, but then they will have to pay for their accommodation and food too ...

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OK, but then they will have to pay for their accommodation and food too ...

At what rate? How many hours would they have to work to make this scheme financially worthwhile to the tax payer? What if the 'prison factory' wins a contract putting another factory already operating out of business?

I’m not sure you've thought this one through.

You're free to dream about a world with 100% employment by all means, but I'm afraid it will never become a reality.

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At what rate? How many hours would they have to work to make this scheme financially worthwhile to the tax payer? What if the 'prison factory' wins a contract putting another factory already operating out of business?

I'm not sure you've thought this one through.

You're free to dream about a world with 100% employment by all means, but I'm afraid it will never become a reality.

the point is that it works pretty well in US for some time without any major negative side effects ...

you are trying to find a whatever reason to keep prisoners idle .... why?

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the point is that it works pretty well in US for some time without any major negative side effects ...

There have been cases in the US of local judges taking kickbacks from privatised prisons to give out longer sentences.

Makes sense if your business model is utilising convict labour- but does inject perverse incentives into sentencing policy.

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