GordonBrownSpentMyFuture Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 This link needs recommending http://www.guardian.co.uk/discussion/comment-permalink/9887285 Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbone Glover Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 DO you really want to be tied to this country the way its going at the moment? I don't. In fact, having read the Germany love-in thread earlier, I'm going to brush up on my German and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milton Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) The Government know they have performed massive corrupt polices, theft, fraud...... Like their unofficial spokesperson, Mervyn King said, 'I am surprised there is not more anger at bankers.' They are sitting around twiddling their thumbs staring out the windows wondering why the molotov cocktails are not smashing the glass..... Then they realise, that the British Public are like Dodo's, and other extinct 'flightless birds' ....... We dont know how to complain................And we dont realise that governments themselves are the enemy................Much like the monarchy was centuries ago. And when the sh1t finally does hit the fan, they will wish they had 'done the right thing' when they had a chance to do so. **The truth is that they do have options available to them, to spread the deficit fairly, and allow FTB to work and pay for a house, if they really wanted to. There are workable ideas. But obviously just do not want to. They are happy to carry on stealing from us. And then lying to us. Edited March 9, 2011 by Dan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonBrownSpentMyFuture Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 GrantShapps 9 March 2011 3:45PM All, it looks like we're out of time but if we can organise it with the Live Q&A admins at The Guardian then I'd like to run through some of the outstanding points and go ahead and post answers over the next day or two. Thanks for taking part and for the very many questions. Look forward to repeating the exercise on another occasion. Grant. Interesting. Let's see how, and if, he responds to some of the more pointed questions. Once he's run them by the press office, of course. I think this will continue to be one to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timebandit Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 God this gets me angry, Grant avoided answering the majority of questions. I did post an invitation for him to pop along to our site for a mor emeaningful Q&A. Fubra/mods how about sending out an further invite please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tired of Waiting Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 God this gets me angry, Grant avoided answering the majority of questions. I did post an invitation for him to pop along to our site for a mor emeaningful Q&A. Fubra/mods how about sending out an further invite please? + 1 Very good idea. Actually I think you should start a thread on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milton Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I did post an invitation for him to pop along to our site for a mor emeaningful Q&A. Fubra/mods how about sending out an further invite please? +1 Oh was that you? I liked that. And TOW's comment...[welcome to the blacklist lol] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Missed it. Went out. Ah well - the comments all look fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tired of Waiting Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 +1 Oh was that you? I liked that. And TOW's comment...[welcome to the blacklist lol] Thanks. Proudly! BTW, I bumped into this info there before, and it reminded me of you, and your comments about them: Q: How do I become a moderator? A: We advertise open Community Moderator (and other) positions within the community team when they come up, both online at http://www.guardianjobs.co.uk and in the paper. If you're interested in applying, it might be worth setting up a job alert on that site so you'll be the first to know when a new role is advertised. http://www.guardian.co.uk/community-faqs#102 You should try, and "infiltrate" them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Reading between the lines, nothing is going to change, the high prices will be supported by whatever means necessary. Glad I didnt waste anytime asking this twirp any questions. he did say there was no money...so I suspect SMI will be altered and curtailed....that is the biggest single fly in the HPC ointment. The nonsense about small business not being able to borrow clearly illustrates the sate of our useless banking system....they are incapable of putting capital to entreprenuers unless there is a get out House att he end of the tunnel. and the SMI also stops banks cashing in their security when they should. Joined up thinking would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tired of Waiting Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 (...) And TOW's comment...[welcome to the blacklist lol] They haven't deleted this one yet, surprisingly: @GrantShapps "prices moving very rapidly in either direction makes life very difficult for aspirant home buyers." I'm sorry but that was either stupid or dishonest. Prices moving very rapidly downwards will make life much easier for aspirant home buyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milton Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) They haven't deleted this one yet, surprisingly: @GrantShapps "prices moving very rapidly in either direction makes life very difficult for aspirant home buyers." I'm sorry but that was either stupid or dishonest. Prices moving very rapidly downwards will make life much easier for aspirant home buyers. Yes, well done to everyone who took the time to post, and thankyou. I think we can conclude that the government are on the backfoot. Personally, I do have 'spikes' of real anger but its very nice to know that I am not alone, and we are all in it together. Edited March 9, 2011 by Dan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19 year mortgage 8itch Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) They haven't deleted this one yet, surprisingly: @GrantShapps "prices moving very rapidly in either direction makes life very difficult for aspirant home buyers." I'm sorry but that was either stupid or dishonest. Prices moving very rapidly downwards will make life much easier for aspirant home buyers. It doesn't help me and you due to what would happen to the availability of finance in a crashing market as we'll still need mortgages even if they are sensible ones. However, things would improve once we had crashed which is the point 'they' don't get. We want the crash now so we can move on, they just want to prevent the crash bit in the belief it will be more stable. Those with something to lose don't want to scare the horses. Edited March 9, 2011 by daiking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Those with something to lose don't want to scare the horses. Nor did the Yanks or the Fish and Chips, but the horses bolted just the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19 year mortgage 8itch Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) Nor did the Yanks or the Fish and Chips, but the horses bolted just the same. Did they stuff their horses full of K like we seem to have? I cannot remain solvent long enough for the market to revert to normality Edited March 9, 2011 by daiking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Did they stuff their horses full of K like we seem to have? I cannot remain solvent long enough for the market to revert to normality You must try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1zard Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Can Shapps actually provide an answer to the golden question about prices still being unaffordable if they remain where they are and the big gap in real wages? I personally do not believe he can openly answer this without having to admit that house price falls will be required to close the gap. There's no way he will be allowed to state house prices need to fall until they are realigned with wages. He does go as far as saying house prices trailing behind wages would be his idea of a healthy housing market but has to leave out the action to reach that scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timebandit Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Thread started, well it could happen http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=160831&pid=2921189&st=0entry2921189 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tired of Waiting Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Well, what else did you expect? It's one thing thinking it, but there was no way your comment was ever going to be on there for long. Thanks for the "info" FG, though I was expecting it. That " " was an ironic . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sossij Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I liked this post... from someone on here? "mikebus 9 March 2011 2:33PM Dear Mr Shapps, Why is it possible to purchase our national housing stock using a trust or Company, normally based in an offshore tax haven, thereby removing the purchaser from CGT and Inheritance Tax? Often done by Non British who therfore have a tax advantage in holding our residential housing stock over the local population! Surely better for such purchasers to nominate a 'person of residence' to the Land Registry. When ownership or the 'person of residence' changes or dies then CGT (if not main residence) and Inheritance tax applies. Any 'person of residence' who nominates the house as their main residence, therby avoiding CGT, is automatically domiciled for tax purposes. (how can your main residence be in the UK when the UK is not your 'home'!?) It may alienate your donating chums though. Remove the ceiling on Council Tax for any home un-occupied for more than 90 days a year ie it could double or triple. Benefits are that rental property will not sit empty, second homes will not be vacant during the week resulting in ghost villages. Locals can set the tax to regulate the amount of 'second home owners' they want in their local area. A truely Conservative grass roots initiative. Lees weekenders will mean more B&B business, small hotels, employment, to cater for the tourists. It may alienate some of your supporters, but, will gain the mass support from the population in those 'holiday' areas affected by ghost villages." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sossij Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 yoboboy 9 March 2011 3:03PM Your brother was in Big Audio Dynamite, your first cousin is Mick Jones. a) what happend to you? why don't you feel ashamed to be part of a government that is making the poor pay for the mistakes of the rich? c) it is a modest ambition for a person to want affordable secure housing, why are your government's policies moving us further away from that goal? Wow - really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venger Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Puuhleese, house prices moving rapidly downwards would make life very easy for aspirant home buyers Mr Shapps. Same, but Shapps prefers to be "delighted" in getting new schemes to try and lend FTBs extra debt, Taylor Wimpey Take 5 or the Lloyds Lend a Hand. He wants stable prices and definitely not rapid falls back from the rapid and massive increases upon increases upon increases in house prices through the years. From yesterday's Guardian. Guardian Thursday 31 March 2011 A few weeks ago, housing minister Grant Shapps took part in a live Q&A. Due to time restraints he didn't get to answer all your questions so we put some them to him after the discussion. Here we bring you his responses and round up the questions and answers from the day. http://www.guardian.co.uk/housing-network/2011/mar/31/grant-shapps-housing-minister-your-questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonBrownSpentMyFuture Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 GrantShapps9 March 2011 3:45PM All, it looks like we're out of time but if we can organise it with the Live Q&A admins at The Guardian then I'd like to run through some of the outstanding points and go ahead and post answers over the next day or two. Thanks for taking part and for the very many questions. Look forward to repeating the exercise on another occasion. Grant. Interesting. Let's see how, and if, he responds to some of the more pointed questions. Once he's run them by the press office, of course. I think this will continue to be one to watch. And needless to say he never did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinzano Bianco Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 And needless to say he never did. Email him and ask why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonBrownSpentMyFuture Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Email him and ask why? We know why but it won't be for the reasons he would bother to give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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