Brave New World Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 A sea of unreality, people jeering any measures to save - the same idiots that will pass on a life of toil to their children and their children's children. Pretend and Extend. Pretend and Extend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Self Employed Youth Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 Nationalize the lot and up the dole. Bring in a 30 hour week to have the amount of labour required create enough jobs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Si1 Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 sounded like Question time - labour schills - cheering as the votes came in however, presenter said that the audience is demographically selected but they could well be demographically selected from inner city London (or is it from Birmingham?) and might be a left-leaning audience due to geographical selectivity??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brave New World Posted March 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 sounded like Question time - labour schills - cheering as the votes came in however, presenter said that the audience is demographically selected but they could well be demographically selected from inner city London (or is it from Birmingham?) and might be a left-leaning audience due to geographical selectivity??? Would be great if C4 did one of their Fact Checks on their own audiance demographics for this programmme. The whole programme was whimsical at best. Terminal debt as mid evening entertainment. Surprised Endemol hadn't produced it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrhappy Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I was really looking forward to this but it was completely ruined by the audience, you could see by the look on Krishnan's face at the end it had turned into a complete farce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SNACR Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 One of those debates like Climate Change - impossible to have any sensible discussion involving facts, logic and reason without being drowned out by 'you want to selfishly kill the planet, polar bears etc.'. Similarly, no reasonable discussion on public spending can be entered into without a cacophony of 'Bankers', 'Fat Cats', 'Mp's Expenses', 'Posh Tory Boys stamping on the downtrodden masses'. Can't even rule out a 'Fatcher destroyed our industry' pointless jibe. A contribution you can only assume means the antidote to the current woes can be found by jumping into a Delorean travelling back to the eighties, deposing the then Prime Minister and allowing Labour to start their incontinent public spending spree nearly two decades earlier. I suggest manufacturing cereal bowls of a curvature exactly mirroring the Laffer curve. That way when those who advocate the Viv Nicholson school of economic policy have finally totally impoverished the country they can serve their children their morning gruel with a heavy dose of irony. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim123 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 A sea of unreality, people jeering any measures to save - the same idiots that will pass on a life of toil to their children and their children's children. Pretend and Extend. Pretend and Extend. The format was ridiculous: 1) Should we sell off things that we own but don’t use, of course we damn well should 2) Should we sell off AND leaseback things that we do use. Absolutely no way Jose! 3) Should we sell off things that we currently provide out of taxes to companies who will then charge people to use them, perhaps. (Though keeping them in government ownership and running them more commercial should be considered as well). But they didn't ask that, they asked, should a (e.g.) local council do: all of 1, 2 & 3, or none of them, unsurprisingly the result was "none of them" tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GordonBrownSpentMyFuture Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I was really looking forward to this but it was completely ruined by the audience, you could see by the look on Krishnan's face at the end it had turned into a complete farce. His gameshow host suit didn't help. I'm afraid that Dispatches has gone the way of Panorama and World in Action (now called "Tonight"). Watered down McReporting for the ignorant masses. Fortunately I missed most of it only to tune in at the end. What was that chap ranting about over Krishnan at the end? No doubt moaning about the Liberal Democrats and student tuition fees. Smokescreened d!ckhead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
200p Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I want all the pavements sold to my family, so we can charge rent for generations to come. Oligarchy here I come! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Si1 Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 I was really looking forward to this but it was completely ruined by the audience, you could see by the look on Krishnan's face at the end it had turned into a complete farce. the pseudo-intellectual statist bullies (I try to avoid using the word socialist as I know that isn't its intention) pressure groups are getting pathetic - they may have control over the labour party but they lost the election pretty badly and the average bloke doesn't fall for this sh*te, transparent, no wonder Thatcher just sodded it and went about her work ignoring the f*ckers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Loblaw Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Caught a bit of the programme and it just brought home how screwed we are. Absolutely decimating the armed forces would save 14bn and selling off all Crown Estates would bring in 21bn. So these two together would bring in less than a quarter of this years deficit. Also I thought it was mildly annoying that a discussion about selling off Britain was hosted by someone called Krishna, aided by his sidekick Faisal and with a good proportion of the audience being what looked like recent immigrants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperduck Quack Quack Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) How much would the Argentinians pay for the Falklands? When the government has sold off assets in the past there have always been questions raised as to who actually owns them, but that never got in the way of the sales. On that basis I think the following sales could be considered: Auction the sovereignty rights over Australia, New Zealand and Canada to the highest bidders. Chances are the people of those countries would try to outbid the Chinese or Gulf states or anyone else, driving the price up. What we have now is an emerging brand of 'punk Toryism' that's saying 'up yours' to the British people, as though it's our fault that Gordon Brown trashed the economy. It's like New Labour mugged the people and now the Torylition has imposed a fine on us as punishment for being mugged by Gordon Brown and the banks. Edited March 8, 2011 by Hyperduck Quack Quack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SNACR Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) How much would the Argentinians pay for the Falklands? When the government has sold off assets in the past there have always been questions raised as to who actually owns them, but that never got in the way of the sales. On that basis I think the following sales could be considered: Auction the sovereignty rights over Australia, New Zealand and Canada to the highest bidders. Chances are the people of those countries would try to outbid the Chinese or Gulf states or anyone else, driving the price up. What we have now is an emerging brand of 'punk Toryism' that's saying 'up yours' to the British people, as though it's our fault that Gordon Brown trashed the economy. It's like New Labour mugged the people and now the Torylition has imposed a fine on us as punishment for being mugged by Gordon Brown and the banks. You seem to be suggesting that Gordon Brown and the rest of the Labour party government were dropped off by extra-terrestrials. My recollection is New Labour swept to power to the strains of 'things can only get better'. It quickly became apparent their Prime Minister had a penchant for illegal wars and foreign policy grandstanding. His Chancellor's poison was flogging off the nation's gold, mobile telephone licences, to raise revenue to then incontinently spend on public services. Not content with that he then maxed out the country's credit card. The poor people, who are now being 'punished', by the incumbent government - in your view, were so outraged by all this that they democratically elected them back into government at every opportunity for the next 10 years. Edited March 8, 2011 by Soon Not a Chain Retailer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Self Employed Youth Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Caught a bit of the programme and it just brought home how screwed we are. Absolutely decimating the armed forces would save 14bn and selling off all Crown Estates would bring in 21bn. So these two together would bring in less than a quarter of this years deficit. Also I thought it was mildly annoying that a discussion about selling off Britain was hosted by someone called Krishna, aided by his sidekick Faisal and with a good proportion of the audience being what looked like recent immigrants. If non smokers smoked, we would have a surplus due to the extra tax collected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperduck Quack Quack Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 You seem to be suggesting that Gordon Brown and the rest of the Labour party government were dropped off by extra-terrestrials. My recollection is New Labour swept to power to the strains of 'things can only get better'. Yes, and at the time there was every reason to believe they could get better, and indeed they did for a while.But I see no difference now. The unelected Torylition has launched an attack on the fabric of society . I say 'unelected' because it's can only stay in power because the Liberal Democrats turned their backs on their voters to support a Tory minority government. And David Cameron is beginning to sound a bit Blairish over Libya. Do we really want to find ourselves in a war that could engulf North Africa and the Middle East, where all sides would be our enemies? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Riedquat Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yes, and at the time there was every reason to believe they could get better, and indeed they did for a while. But I see no difference now. The unelected Torylition has launched an attack on the fabric of society . I say 'unelected' because it's can only stay in power because the Liberal Democrats turned their backs on their voters to support a Tory minority government. And David Cameron is beginning to sound a bit Blairish over Libya. Do we really want to find ourselves in a war that could engulf North Africa and the Middle East, where all sides would be our enemies? And the really depressing thing? It still looks like every other possible outcome of the election would've been even worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GordonBrownSpentMyFuture Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 And the really depressing thing? It still looks like every other possible outcome of the election would've been even worse. Or, indeed, exactly the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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