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GF is lucky enough to have a company car that is due change and the list is pretty impressive,the best of the list are :

Audis:A5 Sportback 140 or 170 BHP TDI, A6 TDI, A4 saloon or Avant both 140 or 170 BHP varients.

BMW 520D saloon or touring, 320D saloon or touring both with M sport packs.

Volvo S60/V60/V70

Car tax (BIK) is pretty much the same +/- £15 per month.

Head says 520D Touring with M pack, Manual 6 speed box, heart says A5 Sportback S line170BHP 6 speed manual......Anyone got one of these 2 and like to add a review.

BMW comes with the dreaded run flats not to sure about the Audi.

Current vehicle is a 08 Passat 140 BHP TDI Sport (235/45/17) with 6 speed box 3years old and 96K miles

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GF is lucky enough to have a company car that is due change and the list is pretty impressive,choice of the best are:

Audis:A5 Sportback 140 or 170 BHP TDI, A6 TDI, A4 saloon or Avant both 140 or 170 BHP varients.

BMW 520D saloon or touring, 320D saloon or touring both with M sport packs.

Volvo S60/V60/V70

Car tax (BIK) is pretty much the same +/- £15 per month.

Head says 520D Touring with M pack, Manual 6 speed box, heart says A5 Sportback S line170BHP 6 speed manual......Anyone got one of these 2 and like to add a review.

BMW comes with the dreaded run flats not to sure about the Audi.

Current vehicle is a 08 Passat 140 BHP TDI Sport (235/45/17) with 6 speed box 3years old and 96K miles

Perhaps I can advise

We have Audi A4 2.0 T FSI turbo Quattro special edition. Nice car. Also a 3 series M diesel with M pack. The Beamer is a dog, quite why people think it's the ultimate drivers car befuddles me. The ride is dreadful, way worse than the quattros (which is stiffened, uprated and running 235/18/40's). Quite how they managed that remains to be seen. Ok so it's not too bad going around corners, but the audi kicks it's ass there too (probably due to quattro). So I really am struggling to see anything the beamer is better at.

On build quality, well you have to pay a LOT of money to get an interior that's better put together than an audi, and then you have the 'door close' test, which feels like you're trying to slam the tin off a pilchard lid back in when you close the bmw - very very cheap feel. Dreadful thing it is, we're going to sell it and upgrade it to a golf. (no, really we are).

Plus, all bmw drivers are cocks that are 'indicatorially-challenged'. And whilst i'll admit there lure of the 4 rings has dragged a few chavs into the brand of late, there's still a way to go until audi reaches the pomposity of the wunderbar munich wagon.

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Get the Audi. My wife also has a company car (VW Golf), could have been an Audi however they have a four door only policy and they drive like tanks so we went with the lightest, quickest and most economical (company car tax) we could get our hands on - bottom of the list. The BMW 520 was also on the list at the top so naturally everybody else went for the prestige of the BMW and they spend most of their days in the workshop. Audi/VW are more fun, more reliable etc etc

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Get the Audi. My wife also has a company car (VW Golf), could have been an Audi however they have a four door only policy and they drive like tanks so we went with the lightest, quickest and most economical (company car tax) we could get our hands on - bottom of the list. The BMW 520 was also on the list at the top so naturally everybody else went for the prestige of the BMW and they spend most of their days in the workshop. Audi/VW are more fun, more reliable etc etc

I'd go Audi as well.

Don't touch the BMW 520 with a barge pole, it will be grossly underpowered. I had a 523 for a while (company car) before changing jobs and it was awful.

On moving I bought a second hand A8 4.2FSi having escaped the limits of the company car scheme. A car the size of the 520 really needs a 3 litre engine as a minimum

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I'd go for one of the efficient dynamics BMWs for maximum savings on tax. The good thing is you can drive it like an angel if diesel gets super expensive or drive it like a hooligan when you fancy.

I don't think Audi have anything to touch it in the CO2 for performance arena and the VW blue motions are a bit low powered in comparison.

Forgot the BMW drivers are cocks image, it's Audi drivers now.

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If you want it this year go for a BMW. The delay stories I've heard on all diesel VW marquee cars (Audi, VW, Seat and Skoda) are ridiculous.

However if you can get one quickly or don't mind waiting go for the A5 Sportback 170.

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If you want it this year go for a BMW. The delay stories I've heard on all diesel VW marquee cars (Audi, VW, Seat and Skoda) are ridiculous.

However if you can get one quickly or don't mind waiting go for the A5 Sportback 170.

Three points: Mercedes,Mercedes or Mercedes

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GF is lucky enough to have a company car that is due change and the list is pretty impressive,the best of the list are :

Audis:A5 Sportback 140 or 170 BHP TDI, A6 TDI, A4 saloon or Avant both 140 or 170 BHP varients.

BMW 520D saloon or touring, 320D saloon or touring both with M sport packs.

Volvo S60/V60/V70

Car tax (BIK) is pretty much the same +/- £15 per month.

Head says 520D Touring with M pack, Manual 6 speed box, heart says A5 Sportback S line170BHP 6 speed manual......Anyone got one of these 2 and like to add a review.

BMW comes with the dreaded run flats not to sure about the Audi.

Current vehicle is a 08 Passat 140 BHP TDI Sport (235/45/17) with 6 speed box 3years old and 96K miles

A5 looks nice but bit impotent at 170bhp. I have a S3 210bhp, thinking of upgrading to a 260. I reckon in the much heavier A5 you'd want 220+ to make it into a decent drivers car.

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I can't help but think that with 30k+ miles per year I'd want an auto and wouldn't touch a S-line or M-Sport with a barge pole.

Comfort > Posing

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I can't help but think that with 30k+ miles per year I'd want an auto and wouldn't touch a S-line or M-Sport with a barge pole.

Comfort > Posing

+1.

Mrs Clubs had a similar choice to make and went for the Volvo option. Stealthy and comfy. Several M Sport/S Line driving colleagues are beginning to understand why.

The Profit knows of what he speaks re MB (as long as it's not the abominable CLC thing).

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Three points: Mercedes,Mercedes or Mercedes

Yeah, if you don't want to feel like you're connected to anything that might be part of the car! Might as well drive a video game for all the feedback you get.

I'm reminded of the old saying: Buy a BMW if you're poor but want people to think you have money. Buy a Merc if you're rich and you want people to know you have money. Buy an Audi if you can't be arsed what people think and just want a good car.

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Yeah, if you don't want to feel like you're connected to anything that might be part of the car! Might as well drive a video game for all the feedback you get.

I'm reminded of the old saying: Buy a BMW if you're poor but want people to think you have money. Buy a Merc if you're rich and you want people to know you have money. Buy an Audi if you can't be arsed what people think and just want a good car.

And what if you want a good car but only have 12k? Anyone know anything about the Seat Exeo? (one year old) (yes I know it's based on the previous A4 and has the dash from a cabriolet but is it any good?)

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Yeah, if you don't want to feel like you're connected to anything that might be part of the car! Might as well drive a video game for all the feedback you get.

I'm reminded of the old saying: Buy a BMW if you're poor but want people to think you have money. Buy a Merc if you're rich and you want people to know you have money. Buy an Audi if you can't be arsed what people think and just want a good car.

Or if you want real bang for your buck and are not into posing, buy a Ford ;). Current quick offering is the Focus RS.

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I went through this difficult process six months ago with the big 3 Germans being the choice my company gave me:

To me it came down to the BMW or the Merc, to be honest I couldnt squeeze a fag paper between them, depends on your personal preference.

Audi ended up way down the list owing to a) the RHD conversion sucks, all the controls are offset. Try driving for a few hours and see how much that's going to hurt. b: In stuff like the A5 I felt like I was sitting on the floor yet my head was still banging on the ceiling (I'm 6'3) whereas my wife couldnt see over the dash. and c: The local dealer was a total twunt and all of their people obviously had better things to do than spend time with a potential customer when I went to visit.

I'd go for the Merc, I hear they've caught up on BMW on the ED front with their 2 liter deisel, plus a bigger boot, although you get a lower spec for your money. I actually went for the BMW320d because I'm pussy-whipped. Go for a pack like the business edition, much cheaper than racking up the options separately.

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I went through this difficult process six months ago with the big 3 Germans being the choice my company gave me:

To me it came down to the BMW or the Merc, to be honest I couldnt squeeze a fag paper between them, depends on your personal preference.

Audi ended up way down the list owing to a) the RHD conversion sucks, all the controls are offset. Try driving for a few hours and see how much that's going to hurt. b: In stuff like the A5 I felt like I was sitting on the floor yet my head was still banging on the ceiling (I'm 6'3) whereas my wife couldnt see over the dash. and c: The local dealer was a total twunt and all of their people obviously had better things to do than spend time with a potential customer when I went to visit.

I'd go for the Merc, I hear they've caught up on BMW on the ED front with their 2 liter deisel, plus a bigger boot, although you get a lower spec for your money. I actually went for the BMW320d because I'm pussy-whipped. Go for a pack like the business edition, much cheaper than racking up the options separately.

I agree Mercs are generally better than BMWs - though possibly slightly more old gittish. The E270 diesel was a cracking car..

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I agree Mercs are generally better than BMWs - though possibly slightly more old gittish. The E270 diesel was a cracking car..

What can I say? I'm an old git: Just look at my avatar.

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Or if you want real bang for your buck and are not into posing, buy a Ford ;). Current quick offering is the Focus RS.

in my experience though, Fords have 2 main problems. The first is the resale value, they may be cheaper to buy but you don't get anything like the expected residual of a decent German car. And secondly the dealerships are chuffin dreadful, they're the estate agents of car sales. Useless, inexperienced and only after your cash.

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in my experience though, Fords have 2 main problems. The first is the resale value, they may be cheaper to buy but you don't get anything like the expected residual of a decent German car. And secondly the dealerships are chuffin dreadful, they're the estate agents of car sales. Useless, inexperienced and only after your cash.

Not always....

http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=159996&view=findpost&p=2904714

I loved my Cosworths, there wasn't much that could live with them. I was stopped by the police late one night for an ownership check as so many were getting stolen. The copper said he'd nearly melted his engine trying to keep up with me and it was obvious I was just cruising. He said he'd never have caught up with me if I hadn't come up behind a "slowcoach" and he switched on his blue light in the hope I'd see it in the distance and stop for him, which I did.

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I can't help but think that with 30k+ miles per year I'd want an auto and wouldn't touch a S-line or M-Sport with a barge pole.

Comfort > Posing

+1

You get the same engine and brakes just with a body kit and bigger wheels, stiffened suspension. All of which are pointless

and about looks and not driving appeal.

As for Mercs their build quality was atrocious for a while, the whole 1990-2000 decade have all vanished form the roads.

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As for Mercs their build quality was atrocious for a while, the whole 1990-2000 decade have all vanished form the roads.

I disagree. The W201's (190's) I had were totally solid reliable vehicles. Many are still on the road and used every day. Same goes for the W124 (E Class). Both these models were produced in that decade. Do a quick search on ebay or Autotrader and see how many Merceds produced between 1990 and 2000 are available for sale. Speak to some of the specialists who sell these vehicles.

But tell me how does the car I drive change my personality? Do I change into different person because I'm driving my Mercedes, and then change when I get into my BMW, and then change again when I get into my Aston, and then change again when I get into my Alfa. I don't see it.

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And what if you want a good car but only have 12k? Anyone know anything about the Seat Exeo? (one year old) (yes I know it's based on the previous A4 and has the dash from a cabriolet but is it any good?)

it's a lot of car for the money. The audi cab dash is a bonus compared to usual SEAT offerings but the base car (B6 A4?) is rather decrepit now although engines are thankfully the modern ones. I would be interested too but not had a good look over one. Also doesn't seem to be much in the way of auto/dsg available.

People will mock but I have a sneaking suspicion that used buys make a lot of sense.

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it's a lot of car for the money. The audi cab dash is a bonus compared to usual SEAT offerings but the base car (B6 A4?) is rather decrepit now although engines are thankfully the modern ones. I would be interested too but not had a good look over one. Also doesn't seem to be much in the way of auto/dsg available.

People will mock but I have a sneaking suspicion that used buys make a lot of sense.

Yes, and thanks. I haven't been inside one yet either but love they way the nose sticks out and the smart interior. I've also heard that the handling is up to the standard of the newest bodied A4.

10k for a nearly new focus or 12k for a nearly new Exeo? That would take some thinking about....ok thinking over, I'd go for the Seat.

No auto/dsg? Not a problem to me.

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Not always....

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I loved my Cosworths, there wasn't much that could live with them. I was stopped by the police late one night for an ownership check as so many were getting stolen. The copper said he'd nearly melted his engine trying to keep up with me and it was obvious I was just cruising. He said he'd never have caught up with me if I hadn't come up behind a "slowcoach" and he switched on his blue light in the hope I'd see it in the distance and stop for him, which I did.

But its a sad fact that Ford don't build anything like the Cosworths any more.

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