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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361165/Britain-freezes-aid-16-countries-inquiry-finds-longer-poverty.html

Britain is to stop giving aid to 16 countries after a major review found they were no longer in poverty.

Countries such as Russia, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Moldova and Serbia will be stripped of millions of pounds a year, following the inquiry ordered by International Development Secretary Andrew Mitchell.

Aid to India - which can afford its own space programme - will also be frozen.

But vast amounts of extra money - 30 per cent of the entire aid budget - will be pumped into unstable terrorist hotspots such as Yemen and Somalia, in a bid to help them to crack down on citizens exporting violence.

So they'll be buying UK arms then with the money given to them?

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Apparently they've frozen india's money (same amount but no increase on previous years as I understand it).

Should they not be taking the amount last year, subtract the amount of money India spend on nuclear weapons, then give them the balance?

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Foreign aid is a scam on the British taxpayer by Britsh corporations. The money "given" to some poor country is always linked to some project where then a British corporation does the work (at hugely inflated costs), therefore indirectly scamming the taxpayer.

Most of the time these projects are typical "cathedrals in the desert", i.e. completely useless to improve the lives of the poor people.

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Working for an international NGO, there is so much evidence I could provide here as anecdotals for either side of the argument as to the effectiveness of aid.

China has singlehandedly lifted more people out of poverty (as defined by the dollar a day standard) in the last two decades than all the aid given to poor countries over that period combined.

What is needed in targeted and intelligent giving, without strings. This is such a complex issue and involves a huge understanding of local cultures too. I have heard about local handicraft projects being set up, creating a hundred plus jobs in an impoverished village. One of the best local workers was trained up to become the manager and handed a series of overseas contracts. The NGO patted itself on the back and pulled out. Five years later, the factory was closed and the village had become addicted to alcohol. They got into booze while the factory was booming, having never been able to afford alcohol before. Once the beer turned up, then standards at the factory dropped, staff turned up hungover, if at all, and the writing was on the wall.

Similarly, another NGO trained and hired local people to build a road which made it much easier for them to get their agricultural produce to market. The community was trained in how to maintain the road too, in theory creating a lasting win-win solution. Ten years later, the road was unfit for vehicles to pass, having not been maintained once. When local people were pressed as to why they had not put their training into practice, they stated that they were waiting for a bunch of white people to turn up and pay them to fix the road...

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Working for an international NGO, there is so much evidence I could provide here as anecdotals for either side of the argument as to the effectiveness of aid.

China has singlehandedly lifted more people out of poverty (as defined by the dollar a day standard) in the last two decades than all the aid given to poor countries over that period combined.

What is needed in targeted and intelligent giving, without strings. This is such a complex issue and involves a hige understanding of local cultures too. I have heard about local handicraft projects being set up, creating a hundred plus jobs in an impoverished village. One of the best local workers was trained up to become the manager and handed a series of overseas contracts. The NGO patted itself on the back and pulled out. Five years later, the factory was closed and the village had become addicted to alcohol. They got into booze while the factory was booming, having never been able to afford alcohol before. Once the beer turned up, then standards at the factory dropped, staff turned up hungover, if at all, and the writing was on the wall.

Similarly, another NGO trained and hired local people to build a road which made it much easier for them to get their agricultural produce to market. The community was trained in how to maintain the road too, in theory creating a lasting win-win solution. Ten years later, the road was unfit for vehicles to pass, having not been maintained once. When local people were pressed as to why they had not put their training into practice, they stated that they were waiting for a bunch of white people to turn up and pay them to fix the road...

Very interesting post, thanks.

It doesn't surprise me at all; my sense is that what will pull people out of poverty long term is if they act to advance themselves, and the best help that can be given is to facilitate that process. In that sense it doesn't surprise me that the Chinese are the most effective as they will be acting out of enlightened self interest rather than a guilt-ridden moral crusade.

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They truly thought these countries were poor until the International Development Secretary decided to visit The North whilst on half-term recently, suddenly a bombed out village in Kosovo looked positively palatial by comparison ;)

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The aid budget will actually increase by £4billion in the next four years. Vast amounts of extra money – 30 per cent of the budget – will be pumped into unstable hotspots such as Yemen and Somalia, to help them crack down on terrorism.

Critics will question whether that is prudent, as there will be no way for Britain to check whether the money is being spent wisely, or being embezzled by officials.

Britain’s aid budget is one of the few areas protected from cuts, unlike defence, education and the police, which are having to make deep savings.

The total spent on aid will rise from £7billion to £11billion by 2015 – at the same time as front-line public services at home are being slashed.

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It doesn't surprise me at all; my sense is that what will pull people out of poverty long term is if they act to advance themselves, and the best help that can be given is to facilitate that process. In that sense it doesn't surprise me that the Chinese are the most effective as they will be acting out of enlightened self interest rather than a guilt-ridden moral crusade.

The impact of Western TV has had an electrifying effect on the populace of developing nations. Now they can see what they haven't got, which is why more and more of them board rickety boats to get to 'the promised land'.

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The impact of Western TV has had an electrifying effect on the populace of developing nations. Now they can see what they haven't got, which is why more and more of them board rickety boats to get to 'the promised land'.

We all the know about the Somalian gangsterlords commanding the pirates. But one of those rare reporting progs got thru a while ago which was a bit of an eye opener.

Some of the 'pirates' were interviewed and they all said they used to earn a decent living as fishermen. But European/Asian first nations had been dumping toxic/radioactive waste into their ungoverned, unprotected seas.

What little sea life that is caught off their coast is contaminated and people started developing high incidences of cancers etc

Next overfishing by huge Japanese and other countries, modern, uber- efficient fishing boats had previously wiped out all the fish stocks thru over fishing in the coastal Somalian seas.

Which is why the fisherman were forced to risk their lives further by pirating for the overlords - as the only income left.

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The impact of Western TV has had an electrifying effect on the populace of developing nations. Now they can see what they haven't got, which is why more and more of them board rickety boats to get to 'the promised land'.

Quite kind of further increases the incentive for us to help them achieve their aims without having to be washed up on our coast in their rickety boats!

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The impact of Western TV has had an electrifying effect on the populace of developing nations. Now they can see what they haven't got, which is why more and more of them board rickety boats to get to 'the promised land'.

They've obviously never watched EastEnders or Corrie.

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They've obviously never watched EastEnders or Corrie.

Oh but they have! And that's the point. Even rough places in the UK look a lot better when compared to the lot most people in developing nations have. When they get bored of Corrie, they flip the channel and see a football game in England full of players from South America and Africa. That also gives them ideas...

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Quite, never have agreed with giving money as aid.

What they should do is identify the requirements generators/prefabs/farm machinery whatever, then we should build them and supply the finished article. Throwing money at a problem with no dicernable plan never rectified any problem.............DID IT MERV!!!!!

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