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Thinking of biting the bullet and buying a pre-reg Kia Ceed. 1.6 deisel, although a bit wheezy with only 89bhp on tap. Would be kkeeping it for the full 7 years to get the most out of the warranty.

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How much are they asking?

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I am really having a bad run with feebay and it is well worth considering

in the past i have bought many motors from feebay, no hassle.

but this time, I found one that was well overdue a £750 cam belt, one that kept stalling, one that had tappet issues and sounded like crap and I am awaiting the fourth.....

never have I ever had a bad car from feebay or experienced this before. It may be that the past has gone and feebay is now only an avenue for selling junk and dodgy motors. I think that the scrappage scheme had a lot to answer for.

be careful people, lots of chit bags out there trying to turn around auction junk. If you meet a white seller then please make a not of it and list him on the following site

fukmeawhiteblokesellingacheapdodgycar.com

I posted a couple of links on the other car thread - auction cars from insolvency auctions are quite good - they are not cars that have been entered for sale and if they were on the books of a compnay then the chances are that what you see is more likely what you get.

Having said that anything form an car auction that is sold all good gives a resonable degree of cover for what should be a cheaper buy than elsewhere anyway.

Scrappage - nothing more than a disgusting waste of money and resources.

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I am really having a bad run with feebay and it is well worth considering

As we enter this recession (that we have just left?), the deals are becoming dodgier and dodgier!

You have to be very careful nowadays! :huh:

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Just over £13k, with a reasonable trade-in on our C200. Don't expect to get much back on it after 7 years in our 'care', but with £30 a year road tax, and the saving on fuel/insurance, I reckon it'll save us around £500 a year over the merc.

Will have to have a test drive though, never run a diesel smaller than 2ltr up until now

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Just over £13k, with a reasonable trade-in on our C200. Don't expect to get much back on it after 7 years in our 'care', but with £30 a year road tax, and the saving on fuel/insurance, I reckon it'll save us around £500 a year over the merc.

Will have to have a test drive though, never run a diesel smaller than 2ltr up until now

I didn't know you had a Merc,puts a bit of a different complexion on it.If you have had it seven years and presumably know the car inside out there is no way that I would giver that up .I presume it must be a petrol because my C220CDi does 60mpg on a run,even the previous C230 Kompressor did 40+.TBH if you have to change I would go for a current model C200CDi. £13k should get you a 3year old 50k model, a manual one will only cost £120 a year tax, a small price to pay to sit behind the three pointed star!

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Just over £13k, with a reasonable trade-in on our C200. Don't expect to get much back on it after 7 years in our 'care', but with £30 a year road tax, and the saving on fuel/insurance, I reckon it'll save us around £500 a year over the merc.

Will have to have a test drive though, never run a diesel smaller than 2ltr up until now

Test drove one of those recently - it was the 113bhp SW version. Power was OK, wasn't sure about the steering at low speed. Not as much fun as the Mondeo, plus the salesman didn't seem to understand the term 'haggle'.

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I didn't know you had a Merc,puts a bit of a different complexion on it.If you have had it seven years and presumably know the car inside out there is no way that I would giver that up .I presume it must be a petrol because my C220CDi does 60mpg on a run,even the previous C230 Kompressor did 40+.TBH if you have to change I would go for a current model C200CDi. £13k should get you a 3year old 50k model, a manual one will only cost £120 a year tax, a small price to pay to sit behind the three pointed star!

Looked at a newer Merc (I do like a gunsight on me bonnet!) but reliability seems to have wandered a bit? Lot's of problems with newer models reported on the net, and the JD Power survey's have been scathing recently? If I were to stay with 'prestige motoring' I'd maybe look at a Jag....

TBH, I'm getting too old to be clambering under motors, and am really just looking for 7 years of taking it back if it goes wrong!

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Looked at a newer Merc (I do like a gunsight on me bonnet!) but reliability seems to have wandered a bit? Lot's of problems with newer models reported on the net, and the JD Power survey's have been scathing recently? If I were to stay with 'prestige motoring' I'd maybe look at a Jag....

TBH, I'm getting too old to be clambering under motors, and am really just looking for 7 years of taking it back if it goes wrong!

I've heard all these reports of unreliabilty and lower build quality on the three pointers.All I can say is that in the last 19 years I have had a 190E, C200,C230 Kompressor, E270CDi,SLK200 and now a C220CDi. I knocked the back box off the C200 hitting floodwater,had a heated seat element replaced under warranty on the SLK,and a new battery on the C220. The E270CDi got written off in a head-on with a yob six weeks after I got it- got a bruise from the seatbelt.

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Test drove one of those recently - it was the 113bhp SW version. Power was OK, wasn't sure about the steering at low speed. Not as much fun as the Mondeo, plus the salesman didn't seem to understand the term 'haggle'.

Seem's to be par for the course. Not much room on price for me either, but got the trade in price up a bit (probably to the figure he had in mind in the first place!). The only test drive available was the 113bhp version at the dealership, and I can't help suspecting this is because the lower power engine doesn't cut it.

As a car, I thought the Megane and the Astra were better, but 3 year warranty doesn't do it for me. Don't mind taking the first 3 years of high depreciation, as long as I can get the next 4 years under warranty as well!

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I've heard all these reports of unreliabilty and lower build quality on the three pointers.All I can say is that in the last 19 years I have had a 190E, C200,C230 Kompressor, E270CDi,SLK200 and now a C220CDi. I knocked the back box off the C200 hitting floodwater,had a heated seat element replaced under warranty on the SLK,and a new battery on the C220. The E270CDi got written off in a head-on with a yob six weeks after I got it- got a bruise from the seatbelt.

None of the 'C group' type cars come close to any of the mercs, granted. It's a balancing act, isn't it. 8 weeks left on the MOT. I'll need to make a decision soon!

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As a car, I thought the Megane and the Astra were better, but 3 year warranty doesn't do it for me. Don't mind taking the first 3 years of high depreciation, as long as I can get the next 4 years under warranty as well!

A new or recent network q astra will have a lifetime or 100,000 mile warranty.

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A new or recent network q astra will have a lifetime or 100,000 mile warranty.

Have Vauxhall confirmed the cost of the annual inspection yet? The local Arnold Clark dealership couldn't confirm what this cost will be, or if it can be added to an annual service.

If free, then I agree that the Astra could be a better bet. If it's a couple of hundred quid a year, then that tips it for me.

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Like all these deals that look too good to be true,and usually turn out to be so the devil is in the detail.What does the "lifetime" guarantee cover and what does it say in the small print. I sell a lot of 80,000 miles 3-5yr old cars and most of the work we do on them under warranty would be termed "wear and tear".

To give an example: If Vauxhall insist that all the work is done by their dealers then you can look forward to some pretty big bills.We replace brake discs quite regularly and a pair of discs and pads cost us £70-£80 typically for a Focus/Astra. A main dealer will charge you up to £400 +VAT depending on how they feel.A cambelt replacement that costs us £100,again £400+VAT. Believe me company accountants on six figure salaries will hjave worked this out and guess who will be paying them.

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Like all these deals that look too good to be true,and usually turn out to be so the devil is in the detail.What does the "lifetime" guarantee cover and what does it say in the small print. I sell a lot of 80,000 miles 3-5yr old cars and most of the work we do on them under warranty would be termed "wear and tear".

To give an example: If Vauxhall insist that all the work is done by their dealers then you can look forward to some pretty big bills.We replace brake discs quite regularly and a pair of discs and pads cost us £70-£80 typically for a Focus/Astra. A main dealer will charge you up to £400 +VAT depending on how they feel.A cambelt replacement that costs us £100,again £400+VAT. Believe me company accountants on six figure salaries will hjave worked this out and guess who will be paying them.

Yeah, the guarantee scam seems to be growing. I've recently bought a new camera, so phoned Nikon to get the guarantee upgraded to 2 years. The Welsh girl on the other end tried to sell me a 3 guarantee, seemed most surprised when I told her I wasn't interested.

As for cars; find yourself a good mechanic who works without VAT and will charge even less than normal back street garages.

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As for cars; find yourself a good mechanic who works without VAT and will charge even less than normal back street garages.

Problem is that today's cars are getting to the point where non-franchise dealers can't work on them.

Some are coming with covers over the engine that require special tools to remove - you can buy them but the cost becomes prohibitive if you need a different one for each model.

Perhaps P.O.D can elabourate.

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Problem is that today's cars are getting to the point where non-franchise dealers can't work on them.

Some are coming with covers over the engine that require special tools to remove - you can buy them but the cost becomes prohibitive if you need a different one for each model.

Perhaps P.O.D can elabourate.

Yes, I was forgeting I'm still living in 1995. My other car is a Nissan Serena which is really using 70's technology, the engine is based on a Perkins design apparently.

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Problem is that today's cars are getting to the point where non-franchise dealers can't work on them.

Some are coming with covers over the engine that require special tools to remove - you can buy them but the cost becomes prohibitive if you need a different one for each model.

Perhaps P.O.D can elabourate.

I share my sales site with a non-franchise Peugeot/Citroen specialist. They have spent several thousand pounds on diagnostic equipment but the manufacturers quite deliberately introduce fresh hurdles so that only their dealers can do the business.This is going to get interesting when Tesco enter the market because I have heard on the QT that any car emanating from them will run up a very big bill at a dealership.So Tesco had better think about setting up their own repair centres too.

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I share my sales site with a non-franchise Peugeot/Citroen specialist. They have spent several thousand pounds on diagnostic equipment but the manufacturers quite deliberately introduce fresh hurdles so that only their dealers can do the business.This is going to get interesting when Tesco enter the market because I have heard on the QT that any car emanating from them will run up a very big bill at a dealership.So Tesco had better think about setting up their own repair centres too.

Or is it possible that Tesco might be big enough to out bully the manufacturers?

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I share my sales site with a non-franchise Peugeot/Citroen specialist. They have spent several thousand pounds on diagnostic equipment but the manufacturers quite deliberately introduce fresh hurdles so that only their dealers can do the business.This is going to get interesting when Tesco enter the market because I have heard on the QT that any car emanating from them will run up a very big bill at a dealership.So Tesco had better think about setting up their own repair centres too.

That's really a disgrace. For computerised stuff, you should really be able to plug in a laptop with a USB cable to get all the diagnostics. Ideally you'd get a full service history with notes stored there as well.. but car electronics always seem to lag about 10 years behind the rest of the world. Took forever to start putting CD players in as standard..

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I share my sales site with a non-franchise Peugeot/Citroen specialist. They have spent several thousand pounds on diagnostic equipment but the manufacturers quite deliberately introduce fresh hurdles so that only their dealers can do the business.This is going to get interesting when Tesco enter the market because I have heard on the QT that any car emanating from them will run up a very big bill at a dealership.So Tesco had better think about setting up their own repair centres too.

I would imagine a giant like Tesco would have the ability to just buy a chain of repair centres! Or at least a controlling interest. Or sue dealerships that they can prove are screwing them.

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I've had a bit of a bangernomics dilemma today. My W-reg Polo, which I've owned for five years and has done 101k miles, is going to cost me £650 (inc VAT) in repairs to get it through its MOT. I know that the stuff the garage is telling me is needing done (new wishbones, new front exhaust, new driver side suspension bearning, two new tyres and some other niggly stuff) probably does need done (pretty sure most of it has been advised to me in the past). I also know that the garage my car is in charge the same amount as other places for parts and repairs (I've checked this myself).

Now I can either pay up and get the work done, and my car will hopefully see me through for another year, or I could try and flog my car today and spend the money I get for it along with the money I would have spent getting it repaired on a similar aged car that also has a years MOT.

I wouldn't really be any better off though, and in fact I might even be worse off, as I've been quite good at getting my Polo repaired and keeping it serviced over the years, while if I were to buy a different car it could have a whole heap of problems manifest in six months that the seller will claim to have known nothing about (but which of course they did).

Given that I need my car to get to work tomorrow I've had no other choice but to just give the go-ahead to the garage and get my car road legal. Obviously its too late for me to change my mind now, but I'm interested to hear what the bangernomics crew would do in my position. I think the main lesson for me though is to get your MOT done a couple of weeks before its due to expire. Mine was due to run out today, and I need my car to get to work, so my options were pretty constricted.

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I've had a bit of a bangernomics dilemma today. My W-reg Polo, which I've owned for five years and has done 101k miles, is going to cost me £650 (inc VAT) in repairs to get it through its MOT. I know that the stuff the garage is telling me is needing done (new wishbones, new front exhaust, new driver side suspension bearning, two new tyres and some other niggly stuff) probably does need done (pretty sure most of it has been advised to me in the past). I also know that the garage my car is in charge the same amount as other places for parts and repairs (I've checked this myself).

Now I can either pay up and get the work done, and my car will hopefully see me through for another year, or I could try and flog my car today and spend the money I get for it along with the money I would have spent getting it repaired on a similar aged car that also has a years MOT.

I wouldn't really be any better off though, and in fact I might even be worse off, as I've been quite good at getting my Polo repaired and keeping it serviced over the years, while if I were to buy a different car it could have a whole heap of problems manifest in six months that the seller will claim to have known nothing about (but which of course they did).

Given that I need my car to get to work tomorrow I've had no other choice but to just give the go-ahead to the garage and get my car road legal. Obviously its too late for me to change my mind now, but I'm interested to hear what the bangernomics crew would do in my position. I think the main lesson for me though is to get your MOT done a couple of weeks before its due to expire. Mine was due to run out today, and I need my car to get to work, so my options were pretty constricted.

650 isn't too bad, and it's the devil you know innit.

In my case I put my car in for it's test one whole month before it was needed (see 'earliest day you can..' on MOT certificate) , fortunately it passed but if it had failed I'd have had a month work out a plan.

Btw, the exhaust should have come from a speciallist (not Quik fit!) and a couple of almost new tyres should cost you 50 quid for a pair. I've got a couple of used Michelin enegies on the the front of mine....spiffing!

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What you need is a crystal ball.If you spend the £650 and get a year of expense free motoring it's a bargain.On the other hand you could be like this customer of mine who spent several hundred quid getting his W reg astra through the test.a couple of months later his clutch went,he had that done and now the head gasket is gone.By the time he has finished he will have spent £1500 on a car worth about a grand.The downside of bangernomics.

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Well, Profit maybe you can let us know which car companies are worst at making garages and customers dependant on them and which aren't so bad. I'm assuming VAG and other Germans, am I right?

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Well, Profit maybe you can let us know which car companies are worst at making garages and customers dependant on them and which aren't so bad. I'm assuming VAG and other Germans, am I right?

Thay are all much of a muchness.I think the situation is exacerbated by the fact that they are fighting for survival.Yesterday a customer needed a relay for a Freelander.A couple of pieces of wire about 25cm long. £208! They admiited when I collected it for him that it's a mod because the original part was faulty.

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