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Get Ready For A 'global Katrina': Biggest Ever Solar Storm Could Cause Power Cuts Which Last For Months

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1359136/Global-Katrina-Biggest-solar-storm-cause-power-cuts-MONTHS.html

* Earth is overdue a solar storm as the sun enters its most active period

The world is overdue a ferocious 'space storm' that could knock out communications satellites, ground aircraft and trigger blackouts - causing hundreds of billions of pounds of damage, scientists say.

Astronomers today warned that mankind is now more vulnerable to a major solar storm than at any time in history - and that the planet should prepare for a global Katrina-style disaster.

A massive eruption of the sun would save waves of radiation and charged particles to Earth, damaging the satellite systems used for synchronising computers, airline navigation and phone networks.

If the storm is powerful enough it could even crash stock markets and cause power cuts that last weeks or months, experts told the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

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Professor Sir John Beddington, the government's chief scientific adviser, said: 'The issue of space weather has got to be taken seriously. We've had a relatively quiet period of space weather - but we can't expect that quiet period to continue.

'At the same time over that period the potential vulnerability of our systems has increased dramatically, whether it is the smart grid in our electricity systems or the ubiquitous use of GPS in just about everything we use these days.

'The situation has changed. We need to be thinking about the ability both to categorise and explain and give early warning when particular types of space weather are likely to occur.'

Google search for solar storm wipes out power grid

Wail going overboard once more, I'm sure there are risks but so far I can't remember anything ever happening where power grids or satellites have been knocked out. These flares happen cyclically and as can be seen from the google search this story just keeps repeating.

Not trying to be too cynical but Prof Beddington may just be trying to secure more funding for classification research?

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heard something similar a few weeks ago (now where did i put my windup radio/tourch)

http://www.ips.gov.au/Educational/1/3/12

Space Weather

Power Failure in Canada During 1989

On March 13th, 1989 a huge solar induced magnetic storm played havoc with the ionosphere, and the earth's magnetic field. This storm, the second largest storm experienced in the past 50 years, totally shut down Hydro-Quebec, the power grid servicing Canada's Quebec province.

Montreal, March 15, 1989

Hydro-Quebec confirms that the March 13 blackout was caused by the strongest magnetic storm ever recorded since the 735-kV power system was commissioned. At 2:45 a.m., the storm, which resulted from a solar flare, tripped five lines from James Bay and caused a generation loss of 9,450 MW. With a load of some 21,350 MW at that moment, the system was unable to withstand this sudden loss and collapsed within seconds, thereby causing further loss of generation from Churchill Falls and Mania-Outardes.

Magnetic storms affect power system behaviour, mainly in that they cause transformer saturation, which reduces or distorts voltage. Hydro-Quebec's long lines and static compensators make the system particularly sensitive to such natural phenomena. For example, analysing the events that caused the March 13 blackout, the utility's experts noted a coincidence between the exceptional intensity of the magnetic storm and the tripping of several static compensators, especially at Chibougamau and La Verendrye substations. Immediately after this loss, records show voltage oscillations and power-swings increasing until the the lines from James Bay were lost. Within seconds, the whole grid was out of service.

The system-wide blackout resulted in a loss of some 19,400 MW in Quebec and 1,325 MW of exports. An additional load of 625 MW was also being exported from generating stations isolated from the Hydro-Quebec system.

Service restoration took more than nine hours. This can be explained by the fact that some of the essential equipment, particularly on the James Bay transmission network, was made unavailable by the blackout. Generation from isolated stations normally intended for export was repatriated to meet Quebec's needs and the utility purchased electricity from Ontario, New Brunswick and the Alcan and McLaren Systems.

By noon, the entire generating and transmission system was back in service, although 17 percent of Quebec customers were still without electricity. In fact, several distribution-system failures occurred because of the high demand typical of Monday mornings, combined with the jump in heating load after several hours without power.

Material Prepared by Richard Thompson. © Copyright IPS - Radio and Space Services.

Comments or suggestions can be directed to education@ips.gov.au

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http://www.dailymail...uts-MONTHS.html

Google search for solar storm wipes out power grid

Wail going overboard once more, I'm sure there are risks but so far I can't remember anything ever happening where power grids or satellites have been knocked out. These flares happen cyclically and as can be seen from the google search this story just keeps repeating.

Not trying to be too cynical but Prof Beddington may just be trying to secure more funding for classification research?

There were power cuts in parts of Canada in 1989 due to solar flares, and there have been cases of satellites being disabled by solar radiation. As we get to rely more and more on electronics and satellites, and our population increases, the risk of serious incidents will increase.

This from the New Scientist in 1989:

Solar storms halt stock market as computers crash

SCIENTISTS blame an intense burst of solar activity for events which halted all trading on Toronto's stock market last month. Officials watched in disbelief as three disc drives failed in succession on what is supposed to be a 'fault-tolerant' computer system. The crash stopped trading for three hours. 'I don't know what the gods were doing to us,' said John Kane, the vice president of the exchange.

The Sun is currently unusually active. The present period of activity - marked by solar flares, discharges of charged particles and magnetic storms on Earth - began in the spring (This Week, 25 March). Scientists in Canada believe that the Sun is responsible for malfunctions in many personal computers across the country and for a two-hour power cut in parts of the province of Quebec.

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Its true...Injin has reanimated and reaping havoc with loose logic in these pages.

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Apparantly we had the perfect space storm back in 1859, when the telegraph was just 15 years old, so it had little effect. Were it to happen today, it would be very damaging. Here's the story from NASA rather that the wail:

Solar Superstorm

Scientists are beginning to understand a historic solar storm in 1859. One day, they say, it could happen again.

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October 23, 2003:Â Newly uncovered scientific data of recorded history's most massive space storm is helping a NASA scientist investigate its intensity and the probability that what occurred on Earth and in the heavens almost a century-and-a-half ago could happen again.

Right: An ultraviolet-wavelength picture of the sun taken by the ESA/NASA Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) on Oct. 23, 2003.

In scientific circles where solar flares, magnetic storms and other unique solar events are discussed, the occurrences of September 1-2, 1859, are the star stuff of legend. Even 144 years ago, many of Earth's inhabitants realized something momentous had just occurred. Within hours, telegraph wires in both the United States and Europe spontaneously shorted out, causing numerous fires, while the Northern Lights, solar-induced phenomena more closely associated with regions near Earth's North Pole, were documented as far south as Rome, Havana and Hawaii, with similar effects at the South Pole.

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We might see an aurora, and experience some interference in radio transmission.

Nothing worse! :huh:

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I believe that a lot of modern equipment is protected against the type of damage caused by the 1989 storm on Canada (the problem is frying transformers). Unless you're in space when it hits I wouldn't worry in the slightest. Even if the power does go for a bit (very unlikely) living without electricity for a few days isn't the end of the world.

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I believe that a lot of modern equipment is protected against the type of damage caused by the 1989 storm on Canada (the problem is frying transformers). Unless you're in space when it hits I wouldn't worry in the slightest. Even if the power does go for a bit (very unlikely) living without electricity for a few days isn't the end of the world.

How about living without water? Without gas? Without petrol? What about no air or sea travel due to loss of communications and lack of fuel? What about all our satellites? What about people in hospitals? What do you think the entire country's infrastructure runs on?

With a really big solar storm (like the unpleasantness in the late C.19) you'd be looking at catastrophic damage to the electrical infrastructure and private users only getting mains supply back after a few weeks at best.

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With a really big solar storm (like the unpleasantness in the late C.19) you'd be looking at catastrophic damage to the electrical infrastructure and private users only getting mains supply back after a few weeks at best.

It's worse than that. There just aren't that many spare transformers to replace all of the blown ones. It would take months to get everything back to normal.

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Yeah! Where's my ******ing solar flare storm??? I was promised.

The really big one is 'due' in about two years, more or less. The recent little burp just made some pretty lights, as expected.

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How about living without water? Without gas? Without petrol? What about no air or sea travel due to loss of communications and lack of fuel? What about all our satellites? What about people in hospitals? What do you think the entire country's infrastructure runs on?

With a really big solar storm (like the unpleasantness in the late C.19) you'd be looking at catastrophic damage to the electrical infrastructure and private users only getting mains supply back after a few weeks at best.

Could manage without all of those for a while - there'll still be a water supply (e.g. a lot of places are gravity-fed, and remote generation could be got to the rest). It'll just be annoying if your lights go out for a while. The odds of enough being knocked out to really screw things over seriously are utterly negligable; a week or two for homes without power won't kill you, and there'll be enough infrastructure working to keep those in a position where they're relying on it for survival (e.g. in hospitals) alive. Your list contains very few actual essentials.

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Yeah! Where's my ******ing solar flare storm??? I was promised.

No one saw it but astronomers! :blink:

The solar activity will be at its peak in a few years!

It looks like it will be a lesser peak than we have been used to!

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