Southampton Cuts Wages Not Jobs

[SarahBell]

Have they got less cuts to make than anyone else?

Cutting wages and not cutting any jobs sounds like a good idea.

(Or they'll sack everyone and re-employ them on better-for-the-taxpayer wages)

Why are the rest cutting jobs? Cos they're bloated beyond belief?

[scottbeard]

Cutting wages and not cutting any jobs sounds like a good idea.

Only if the jobs being done are worth doing.

For example, whilst it is sad for the people concerned in the short term, i'm glad that HIP inspectors jobs were cut, along with the HIPs themselves. Those folks will in time get a new job, more productive for society.

[SarahBell]

Only if the jobs being done are worth doing.

For example, whilst it is sad for the people concerned in the short term, i'm glad that HIP inspectors jobs were cut, along with the HIPs themselves. Those folks will in time get a new job, more productive for society.

It said 7M over 4 years which didn't sound a lot so I did think I might have misheard.

How efficient is Southampton?

[interestrateripoff]

Chief Exec etc... excluded?

Or will they be doing the honourable thing and taking a bigger paycut than the workers to lead by example?

[Democorruptcy]

Have they got less cuts to make than anyone else?

Cutting wages and not cutting any jobs sounds like a good idea.

(Or they'll sack everyone and re-employ them on better-for-the-taxpayer wages)

Why are the rest cutting jobs? Cos they're bloated beyond belief?

Link?

Your post here shows up as no 4 at Google using 'southampton cut wages' but no newspaper link

[Buccaneer]

Have they got less cuts to make than anyone else?

Cutting wages and not cutting any jobs sounds like a good idea.

(Or they'll sack everyone and re-employ them on better-for-the-taxpayer wages)

Why are the rest cutting jobs? Cos they're bloated beyond belief?

Southampton City Council are planning budget cuts of GBP17.9M in the next financial year . Out of this total only (a suspiciously round number) of GBP3M arises from wage cuts. The majority of savings come from fairly dubious 'efficiency savings' (more efficient use of gas in the crematorium ) and low level 'service reductions' (closing public toilets )

Anyone that thinks the troughers will gallantly accept significant reductions in their bloated terms and conditions in order to protect public services is delusional.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/resources/files/13762/

And the Town Clerk (sorry CEO) is still on over 200k pa + perks

And they are still cutting 205 Full time equivalent posts

Edited February 18, 2011 by Buccaneer

[SarahBell]

http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=23953

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8859948.Most_savage_cuts_in_council___s_history/

Some 205 jobs and 40 senior managers out of the 6,000-plus workforce, excluding teachers, will be axed. But staff on less than £17,000 will get a £250 pay rise. And those on over £22,000 will get five days more holiday.

Thousands of union members are being balloted on pay cuts of between two and 5.5 per cent and are expected to reject them, paving the way for strike action. The result will be announced next week.

Cllr Smith said the pay cuts would protect 400 more jobs from being axed over the next two years.

[aa3]

If you extrapolate across the UK it shows how it works. Its better to reduce compensation by 7% than to fire 7% of the workforce. Since Britain has something like 8.3 million working in the public sector, 7% would be 580,000 jobs.

An even worse plan is to fire many people, while continuing to give generous pay increases to those who remain, especially the upper echelons.

The only time it might be better to fire, is if the private sector was expanding and there was lots of opportunity for people there.

[Democorruptcy]

Thanks for the link

RULING Tories were last night preparing to dismiss Southampton council workers and re-hire them on worse contracts to force through mass pay cuts in most savage cuts in the history of the authority.

In just under two hours, Tory councillors yesterday agreed annual spending plans of £191m after finding record savings to plug a £25m budget black hole.

Council leader Royston Smith asked council workers who packed the public gallery and earlier protested in their hundreds outside: “What is better: a job with slightly less money of no job at all?”

Some 205 jobs and 40 senior managers out of the 6,000-plus workforce, excluding teachers, will be axed. But staff on less than £17,000 will get a £250 pay rise. And those on over £22,000 will get five days more holiday.

It was reading well until I got to that last bit.

Paying them to stop at home!!

[aa3]

Southampton City Council are planning budget cuts of GBP17.9M in the next financial year . Out of this total only (a suspiciously round number) of GBP3M arises from wage cuts. The majority of savings come from fairly dubious 'efficiency savings' (more efficient use of gas in the crematorium ) and low level 'service reductions' (closing public toilets )

Anyone that thinks the troughers will gallantly accept significant reductions in their bloated terms and conditions in order to protect public services is delusional.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/resources/files/13762/

And the Town Clerk (sorry CEO) is still on over 200k pa + perks

And they are still cutting 205 Full time equivalent posts

Its sad shutting down public toilets isn't efficiency.. it is just reducing services. I am a walker, I go for hikes through trails with friends, or sometimes walk along the ocean. And I really appreciate public washrooms available if needs be.

I'd gladly see a few managers/desk jockeys fired, while their full salaries given to the people who maintain and clean the public washrooms.

[profitofdoom]

Just reduce the whole caboodle by say 10%.Hours,wages etc.That way no one loses their job.In my coouncil the Planning Department still has the same number of staff despite having had virtually no applications to determine for the past two years.

[SarahBell]

Just reduce the whole caboodle by say 10%.Hours,wages etc.That way no one loses their job.

I think it'd make huge sense to cut wages/pensions...

But people on 50k are crying about losing 3k a year. Do people really live so close to the wind?