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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12492318

More than a million local council employees in England, Wales and Northern Ireland will not get a pay rise this year.

Unions had been calling for a pay increase of at least £250 a year for all salary grades from 1 April.

But employers said a £6.5bn funding gap and the cost of maintaining services meant they could not afford it.

The ruling applies to 1.4 million workers. Teachers and firefighters are covered by separate pay arrangements.

Jan Parkinson, managing director of Local Government Employers, said: "Hard-working council employees help make local government the most efficient part of the public sector.

"This decision has not been taken lightly. Councils are facing extremely tough choices this year and have to ask their whole workforce to recognise the need to limit spending in all areas."

Pay cut

The organisation said the pay demands of trade unions Unison, Unite and the GMB would have added 1.23%, or £265m, to the local government pay bill.

When inflation is taken into account, the freeze will add up to a pay cut for council workers, unions say.

A Unison spokesman said "a toxic cocktail of rising cost of living, cuts to terms and conditions, and now frozen pay means council workers are seeing their money vanish before their eyes".

The spokesman added: "70% of council workers earn less than £21,000 and it is a disgrace that even they will not get any help to make ends meet."

Chancellor George Osborne offered a one-off payment of £250 for all public sector workers earning below £21,000 in his emergency budget last June - but councils say they cannot afford this

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I love this 'we in the public sector shouldnt pay for private sector mistakes' attitude.

Do i get a couple of grand of my money back because it was public policy to commit £12bn of public money towards an NHS computer scheme doctors said they didnt want, and in 2009, after years and billions spent, liebour told us we dont need.

Its absurd. Public spending is only what it is because of a private sector boom.

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no rises?...well, apart from the payscales.

As has been said .... no such thing as society.... otherwise they might feel inclined to share the pain 'equally' ........ say a 15% cut across the board............... or even fairer 10% wage cut below 20K .......15% below 40K........ 20K above 40k.

won't happen ........... better to just single out a few unfortunates.

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I love this 'we in the public sector shouldnt pay for private sector mistakes' attitude.

But of course, not a single public sector worker ever took out a self-cert loan, or over extended themselves..

And if they did, it wouldn't be their fault.. it'd be the banks for thrusting it upon them.

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As has been said .... no such thing as society.... otherwise they might feel inclined to share the pain 'equally' ........ say a 15% cut across the board............... or even fairer 10% wage cut below 20K .......15% below 40K........ 20K above 40k.

won't happen ........... better to just single out a few unfortunates.

A 50% pay cut on all salary above £20,000 for all public servants is what is required.

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Good too see exiges is once again busy "getting on with running a business".

What's the GDP for knocking out public sector bashing posts? ;)

Its absurd. Public spending is only what it is because of a private sector boom.

:lol:

Boom, what boom? You private sector lot seem to be giving yourselves far too much credit. If there was such a private sector boom, then why are so many people working in the public sector?!?

:lol::lol::lol:

Never mind, good to see the usual supsects, one on one with an empty goal and still missing.

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Good too see exiges is once again busy "getting on with running a business".

What's the GDP for knocking out public sector bashing posts? ;)

:lol:

Boom, what boom? You private sector lot seem to be giving yourselves far too much credit. If there was such a private sector boom, then why are so many people working in the public sector?!?

:lol::lol::lol:

Never mind, good to see the usual supsects, one on one with an empty goal and still missing.

There are so many people working in the public sector because Gordan Brown created an army of non jobs to buy votes...

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seems a little harsh, what about 35%??

A fairer way would be a pay cap and some redistribution to some of the poorly paid who are doing the real work...

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There are so many people working in the public sector because Gordan Brown created an army of non jobs to buy votes...

Indeed. Brown was oblivious to the fact that the Public sector DOES NOT CREATE WEALTH. So all the time he was expanding it by taxing the private sector and households to death, he was destroying the economic engine of the the country - private enterprise. It was the easy growth option that sold us down the river and will make it so hard to climb out of the hole we're in now. That does not mean that we need to be run by FTSE100 muticorporations, but that you must have a society where it is encouraged and rewarded to run small, creative businesses.

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Good too see exiges is once again busy "getting on with running a business".

What's the GDP for knocking out public sector bashing posts? ;)

That's a similarity between the public sector and "running a business"; you don't have to justify what you do in your time to anyone.

That said, the outcome of not doing any work is very different.

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...why can't the excessively over paid workers reapply for their jobs....put these jobs onto the open market to enable equally or even better competent applicants do the same or better for less?...new blood, new ideas, new ways of thinking. ;)

Good idea, so long as this gets implemented accross both sectors.

So all this bile stems from external markets causing private sector pay to be less then public equivalent, (over the last three to four years). However I don’t remember anyone from the private sector banging on about “fairness” or “real worlds” during the twenty years before this. How strange.

Public sector pay is going through a blip, It won’t take long for pay levels to revert back to their long term trends.

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...why can't the excessively over paid workers reapply for their jobs....put these jobs onto the open market to enable equally or even better competent applicants do the same or better for less?...new blood, new ideas, new ways of thinking. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsSlNFTjxss&feature=related

differentials.....the public sector needs them otherwise the form filling would become a nightmare.

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There are so many people working in the public sector because Gordan Brown created an army of non jobs to buy votes...

Most of these public sector jobs were created in deindustrialised economic blackspots which were already Labour heartlands anyway.

Besides, the notion that every public sector job = one labour vote is ludicrous to say the very least.

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In my opinion no person should be allowed to work in the public sector for more than 5 years.

Private companies should also be able to send staff to the public sector on a fixed term basis and such an arrangement could help them ride out periods where they have less work, yet still retain their staff and their skillsets for the future.

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That's a similarity between the public sector and "running a business"; you don't have to justify what you do in your time to anyone.

Client, bankmanager.......

That said, the outcome of not doing any work is very different.

Better spend less time on here then.

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In my opinion no person should be allowed to work in the public sector for more than 5 years.

Private companies should also be able to send staff to the public sector on a fixed term basis and such an arrangement could help them ride out periods where they have less work, yet still retain their staff and their skillsets for the future.

Yes ...... or perhaps no more than 2 hours per day ......... or 1 day a week...... salary pro-rata of course.

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A 50% pay cut on all salary above £20,000 for all public servants is what is required.

Put the top salary at 70k and bring everyone under that ... on a nice slope like they would be now.

Masive pay rises for some ... not so much for others.

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