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I Emailed Our Council And Asked Them How Many People Are Earning £50K Or More

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It turns out there is a pdf on my councils website (not sure how easily it would be found surfing the site though), but I was responded to under FOI - fair play, quite quickly as well.

I actually asked them a little more, as I wanted to know what the job titles were, that related to those people who earn more than £50K, as the recent Times article mentioned things like "Walking Co-ordinator" and other such non-jobs. I also wanted to know if any "celebrities" had been paid for presentation purposes.

The response was that looking through more than 900 individual records would take 2 1/2 working days, and thus cost too much to produce. I am pleased that they take waste seriously, but I would imagine this sort if stuff should be easily produced with some kind of rudimentary database?

At first I thought, ok, there are 900 employees in the council. Then, on looking at the figures, I realised that they are just referring to the amount that earn more than £50K.

Nevertheless, the figures as of 2009-10, and the meat of what I wanted are as follows,

The number of employees whose remuneration, excluding employer’s pension contribution, was £50,000 or more is shown overleaf:

The first number is for council employees, the second is for "Foundation and Voluntary Aided School Employees" as they are:

Employees of Foundation and Voluntary Aided Schools are shown separately as the Governing Body, rather than the County Council, as the employer.

50,000-54,999 --394 87

55,000-59,999 --222 46

60,000-64,999 --137 29

65,000-69,999 --54 16

70,000-74,999 --26 7

75,000-79,999 --33 2

80,000-84,999 --23 7

85,000-89,999 --8 6

90,000-94,999 --14 7

95,000-99,999 --10 4

100,000-104,999 --5 3

105,000-109,999 --1 2

110,000-114,999 --2 1

115,000-119,999 --1 3

120,000-124,999 --0 1

125,000-129,999 --1 0

130,000-134,999 --0 0

135,000-139,999 --1 0

140,000-144,999 --1 0

145,000-149,999 --0 0

150,000-154,999 --0 0

155,000-159,999 --0 0

160,000-164,999 --1 0

165,000-169,999 --1 0

170,000-174,999 --0 0

175,000-179,999 --0 0

180,000-184,999 --0 0

185,000-189,999 --0 0

190,000-194,999 --0 0

195,000-199,999 --0 0

200,000-204,999 --0 0

205,000-209,999 --1 0

210,000-214,999 --0 0

215,000-219,999 --1 0

I make that 4 or 5 earn more than the PM.

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It turns out there is a pdf on my councils website (not sure how easily it would be found surfing the site though), but I was responded to under FOI - fair play, quite quickly as well.

I actually asked them a little more, as I wanted to know what the job titles were, that related to those people who earn more than £50K, as the recent Times article mentioned things like "Walking Co-ordinator" and other such non-jobs. I also wanted to know if any "celebrities" had been paid for presentation purposes.

The response was that looking through more than 900 individual records would take 2 1/2 working days, and thus cost too much to produce. I am pleased that they take waste seriously, but I would imagine this sort if stuff should be easily produced with some kind of rudimentary database?

At first I thought, ok, there are 900 employees in the council. Then, on looking at the figures, I realised that they are just referring to the amount that earn more than £50K.

Nevertheless, the figures as of 2009-10, and the meat of what I wanted are as follows,

The first number is for council employees, the second is for "Foundation and Voluntary Aided School Employees" as they are:

I make that 4 or 5 earn more than the PM.

Mind boggling, which council??

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The response was that looking through more than 900 individual records would take 2 1/2 working days, and thus cost too much to produce. I am pleased that they take waste seriously, but I would imagine this sort if stuff should be easily produced with some kind of rudimentary database?

Indeed, how do you think Websites sort film lists for you by author? This is the biggest cop-out I've ever heard. Go back to them and ask them why this data isn't in a relational database. A quick query could yield the result in about 5 seconds. While you're at it, ask them what their IT budget is.

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and 900 earn more than TWICE the national average wage.

And aren't foundation school staff raking it in from the extra money given to subsidise their creation.

What should we conclude from that?

1) If we think that foundation schools are 'better' this suggests high salaries are necessary to provide good education. So to improve all other schools salaries should be this high across the board :blink:

2) If we don't think foundation schools are better, these salaries in foundation schools are a rip-off. :angry:

It would appear Mr Gove's policies are in direct contradiction to those of Mr Pickles. How unexpected.

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It turns out there is a pdf on my councils website (not sure how easily it would be found surfing the site though), but I was responded to under FOI - fair play, quite quickly as well.

I actually asked them a little more, as I wanted to know what the job titles were, that related to those people who earn more than £50K, as the recent Times article mentioned things like "Walking Co-ordinator" and other such non-jobs. I also wanted to know if any "celebrities" had been paid for presentation purposes.

The response was that looking through more than 900 individual records would take 2 1/2 working days, and thus cost too much to produce. I am pleased that they take waste seriously, but I would imagine this sort if stuff should be easily produced with some kind of rudimentary database?

At first I thought, ok, there are 900 employees in the council. Then, on looking at the figures, I realised that they are just referring to the amount that earn more than £50K.

Nevertheless, the figures as of 2009-10, and the meat of what I wanted are as follows,

The first number is for council employees, the second is for "Foundation and Voluntary Aided School Employees" as they are:

I make that 4 or 5 earn more than the PM.

Didn't surprise me!

But where you fell down was to find out what bonuses they are usually all on nowadays and if the salary quoted included all benefits.

My ex was given a Council paid £6,000 'golden hello' to kit out the house back in early 90's - her first proper job!

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Indeed, how do you think Websites sort film lists for you by author? This is the biggest cop-out I've ever heard. Go back to them and ask them why this data isn't in a relational database. A quick query could yield the result in about 5 seconds. While you're at it, ask them what their IT budget is.

I have already replied with (almost) that very question, I'll update if I get a response.

I have however received a spreadsheet with the number of employees versus job titles in the council. It seems the council employs some 11000 people, in almost 1400 different roles.

More than 100 of these roles start with the words "Head of".

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Didn't surprise me!

Indeed... and thus it just becomes the accepted norm, as the people of the UK slip back into their apathetic coma.

But where you fell down ...<snip>

Help me out if you like, brother.

I realise I am preaching to the converted here, of course.

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