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8 Agents - Is This Is Record?

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Hi

Couldn't help but notice this gaff in twickenham is up for sale with 8 agents, yes... 8.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-32484350.html (chancellors)

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-32435591.html (Berhard)

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-32448911.html (foxtons)

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-17871384.html?premiumA=true (chase)

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-17517624.html (Snellers)

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-32637170.html (gpees)

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-32444309.html (curhods)

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-32378039.html (jackson)

Perhaps this isn't that many? :)I have seen sometimes 4-5.. but 8! Just thinking this is a bit desperate looking IMO.

Perhaps the fact it was purhased last summer for £350k, now they want.. £600k! for an extension and refurb. No doubt its nice, but 250k!!!

Max selling price of road 422k in 2009.

I wonder if any potential buyers (I assume everyone looks at sold prices) would run a mile upon hearing this? It could even be under offer for all I know :) I doubt it as in the last few weeks there has been a huge increase in property in TW2. Infact if anyone buys near this price they deserve all the neg. equ. they get!

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8 agents looks desperate but I guess if they get a sale then they don't care.

Three bed semi's in the TW2 area are selling around 315k (maybe less now) so this is double!

sorry duplicate posting..

Edited by Daz

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The best I had seen before was going with 5 agents.....

As for your question does everyone look at sold prices - well I have to share this. We do. Today we offered on somewhere and this time we were able to speak to the seller. She/they had bought place in august 2010 and now want to sell. We viewed it 12 month ago before they bought. They negotiated 20k off price and it was then a reasonable offer etc. We offered her a very generous sum slightly more to allow forcthe fact it had been nicely repainted neutrally throughout.

but she was expecting something nearer 240 as an offer.

Anyway she has now cone back to us and her tone implied that she was upset that we had scrutinised her financial affairs

She was most upset that we knew her financial affairs and knew the price she had paid....

Edited by chrismar

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Tough on her since it's in the public domain. It's not as if you hired a private detective to snoop round the neighbours. What are these people on?

P!ssed off she couldn't lie to big up the price

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My guess is that fewer than one in five buyers know of the Land Registry last-sold-at resource.

Of all the property porn programmes I've ever seen I've never once heard mention of the LR, and the availability of this invaluable information. Neither of my immediate neighbours (retired teachers) knew that you could find what a house had previously sold for, or when that sale took place.

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My guess is that fewer than one in five buyers know of the Land Registry last-sold-at resource.

Of all the property porn programmes I've ever seen I've never once heard mention of the LR, and the availability of this invaluable information. Neither of my immediate neighbours (retired teachers) knew that you could find what a house had previously sold for, or when that sale took place.

I think you are correct it's incredible people will go to extremes to save a few quid on a small ticket item purchase but don't seem to apply this for property. I've seen people trying to get their mortgage valuation increased as the seller won't accept less, ie they want to pay more than the valuation.

Hopefully people might try to even google the street name this usually brings up sold lR prices.

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Doesn't Zoopla also have last sold information.

Last time I tried the LR, I couldn't find the last price resource, it just keep asking me 15 quid for a copy of all the docs.

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Doesn't Zoopla also have last sold information.

Last time I tried the LR, I couldn't find the last price resource, it just keep asking me 15 quid for a copy of all the docs.

^

Case in point, an HPCer doesn't know this information is available.

Type "house prices" into Google. It's freely available.

Wish this was more widely known.

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Doesn't Zoopla also have last sold information.

Last time I tried the LR, I couldn't find the last price resource, it just keep asking me 15 quid for a copy of all the docs.

Me too

^

Case in point, an HPCer doesn't know this information is available.

Type "house prices" into Google. It's freely available.

Wish this was more widely known.

Which is why I look at Zoopla or nethouseprices etc

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http://www.rightmove...y-32444309.html (curhods)

Perhaps the fact it was purhased last summer for £350k, now they want.. £600k! for an extension and refurb. No doubt its nice, but 250k!!!

Max selling price of road 422k in 2009.

I wonder if any potential buyers (I assume everyone looks at sold prices) would run a mile upon hearing this? It could even be under offer for all I know :) I doubt it as in the last few weeks there has been a huge increase in property in TW2. Infact if anyone buys near this price they deserve all the neg. equ. they get!

You're right it's definitely number 31. Last sold for £350,000 in June 2010.

StreetView shows how it looked before they began the refurb. The garage of the house to the right is clearly the same as captured in some of the estate agents photos. New front door in a style to match the door of the adjoining semi, cheap picket fence, extension. Guide Price £599,950.

The market is so messed up. Economy in a "calamitous" state, SMI, QE and life support interest rates. Too little pressure yet on homeowners to sell allowing this sort of thing and even a chance of them selling it towards that price. 8 Estate Agents here seem happy to take the instructions and market it at that price rather than bring seller's expectations downwards so they can better get market interest and a sale.

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^

Case in point, an HPCer doesn't know this information is available.

Type "house prices" into Google. It's freely available.

Wish this was more widely known.

Very good point, I wonder if someone who is good at this stuff could put together some form of instructions (i would volunteer but hence my "good at this stuff" cos im always forgetting how to check prices and other useful things)

Something like, when you see a house on rightmove do the following and then a brief set of instructions such as "go to www.houseprices.co.uk and enter the postcode to see related sold prices", go to (wherever) to see prices in the local area, that type of thing, If its the case where all that is needed is the link i just entered then maybe some verbage around it which could be added to signatures when in other forums or something

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15978_SS_chpk2421790_IMG_02_0000_max_620x414.jpg

the council shouldnt allow people to mess up the look of a house.

£600,000? you must be joooooooooooooooooking!

£6000...Looks like it shouldl be demolished

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Me too

Which is why I look at Zoopla or nethouseprices etc

There are people who don't use the internet. Hard to believe, I know, but it's true!

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For checking prices I too use rightmove nethouseprice zoopla mouseprice.com.

I too have always got into some infernal mess on the actual land registry site and it asks me for money and gives nothing for free - and that was with having googles land registry sold prices + postcjde of desired area

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Seen similar desperation on one done up place in Tooting (posted on Greater London forum). I'd be amazed if they get anyone to break above the 500k stamp duty level, and hopefully those with so much to spend will know where to look at sold house prices, will see ceiling for street 422k and think again..

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The best I had seen before was going with 5 agents.....

As for your question does everyone look at sold prices - well I have to share this. We do. Today we offered on somewhere and this time we were able to speak to the seller. She/they had bought place in august 2010 and now want to sell. We viewed it 12 month ago before they bought. They negotiated 20k off price and it was then a reasonable offer etc. We offered her a very generous sum slightly more to allow forcthe fact it had been nicely repainted neutrally throughout.

but she was expecting something nearer 240 as an offer.

Anyway she has now cone back to us and her tone implied that she was upset that we had scrutinised her financial affairs

She was most upset that we knew her financial affairs and knew the price she had paid....

I hope you told her that you got the information by doing a bit of dumpter diving.

If she's going to get thick, there's no point pulling your punches........ :D

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I hope you told her that you got the information by doing a bit of dumpter diving.

If she's going to get thick, there's no point pulling your punches........ :D

nay. We are waving her to stew. We think if she does get agents round to price it up etc they will tell her what we unserstandthey told someone else trying to sell a 5-bed place within a year .... That it is barely worth now what was paid then .... We can see them trying it on with the advertising and marketing this 2- bed place at 240k again like it was last year however 2 agents in our town gave told us that the next door property (been on Market over 2 year at 255 250 and now just down to 248) is very overpriced and needs marketing around 228 mark .... Ao it will be interesting to see what if anything thhs woman does.

We think if she does really want to sell and quickly and privately so soon .... This is her cheapest and best option

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My favourite discovery of the last few months was Rightmove's Price Comparison Report section. in fact, it's a real shame they don't just stick that "Last available sold price: £350,000 18 Jun 2010" info automatically on the main listing. Now THAT would be useful.

Interesting that the sold price doesn't appear to have linked in the "No longer on the market" entry below as it usually does. Previously on at £395k, selling at approx 11.5% below asking. Shame you can't view that listing as it appeared then. THAT would be even more useful.

I'd agree with the general consensus however, that it is amazing quite how little background research people do into properties for sale, especially when a wealth of information is at their fingertips. Hence the shock on an EA's face when he was showing me around a flat, I asked the vendor's situation and he claimed the owner had owned it for years, but had now moved away and could no longer manage it from afar and I commented that was rather strange as I'd seen it sell at auction 3 months earlier for £45k less. Wasn't on LR obviously, but a quick Google of the address revealed all. Can't think why they don't seem too bothered about contacting me about new listings any more.

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8 agents looks desperate but I guess if they get a sale then they don't care.

Three bed semi's in the TW2 area are selling around 315k (maybe less now) so this is double!

sorry duplicate posting..

Its a sign of delusion!

The reason it has had so many agents is likely because the agent in question has suggested a reduction in price so they have said 'sod you, i am going to another agent'. It's a symptom of a delusional asking price.

I have a friend who has a house in south London, they have now RUN OUT of local estate agents willing to market their property because every one has told them to reduce the price but they BELIEVE their property is worth more.

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Actually, using Google, it's amazing what you can find out.

For example, a week after the property sold, London Borough of Richmond received an application from Mr D Lidderdale of 76 Fifth Cross Road, TW2 5LE for Section 191 Cert Existing Lawful Use/Del for a "Loft conversion incorporating hip to gable and rear dormer roof extension. Single storey rear extension". Maybe Mr Lidderdale's just been very busy over the last few months, but the application does make reference to the "proposed works (existing as built)" and being "completed" so sounds like a retrospective application. All the documents can be found in one helpful list here.

What is also interesting is that in a planning application for 238 London Road Twickenha made in July last year, the agent for this was one Mr Demetri Lidderdale (of Purbeck Ltd, a building contractor registered to 76 Fifth Cross Road, TW2 5LE) 31 Elmsleigh Road, Twickenham, TW2 5EF. This is for a conversion of a single dwelling into 6 self-contained units and the erection of two storey rear extension , the works for which have "already started".

I think I'll stop there.

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08 January 2011

* Price changed: from '£569,950' to '£599,950' [Found by n/a]

07 January 2011

* Price changed: from '£599,950' to '£569,950' [Found by n/a]

30 November 2010

* Initial entry found. [Found by n/a]

*rolls eyes*

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Houseprices.co.uk

PropertyBee.com

These are invaluable tools for buyers. Use them correctly and you'll know more about prices in the area and the history of the place than the seller or the agent.

Edited by Van

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It amazes and annoys me how many sales don't make their way onto the LR data and houseprices.co.uk and the like as a result. Repossessions, sales at auction and sales to companies should ALL show in my opinion. They should just be marked as such. To suggest that sales at auction do not reflect a fair or true value is ridiculous and can't see any reason behind the other two being excluded.

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